adam Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 Funny how other QBs, especially young ones can have a low volume game, but it is only a big deal with Fields does it: Zach Wilson 1st Half: 6-12, 28 yds passing, 2 sacks Trevor Lawrence 1st Half: 7-8, 45 yds passing, 4 sacks Kenny Pickett 1st Half: 11-16, 68 yds, 1 TD, 1 sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, adam said: Funny how other QBs, especially young ones can have a low volume game, but it is only a big deal with Fields does it: Zach Wilson 1st Half: 6-12, 28 yds passing, 2 sacks Trevor Lawrence 1st Half: 7-8, 45 yds passing, 4 sacks Kenny Pickett 1st Half: 11-16, 68 yds, 1 TD, 1 sack Not true. Every fan base has angst over their young QB's. Fields is getting national attention for two reasons; the bears numbers are epically low and they know Fields is capable of way more than he's shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said: they know Fields is capable of way more than he's shown. Word. And despite his dismal stats, Wilson is still beating the Pack. It’s a good Sunday. 🌞 And Trubisky came in a helped win against TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 15 hours ago, adam said: Funny how other QBs, especially young ones can have a low volume game, but it is only a big deal with Fields does it: Zach Wilson 1st Half: 6-12, 28 yds passing, 2 sacks Trevor Lawrence 1st Half: 7-8, 45 yds passing, 4 sacks Kenny Pickett 1st Half: 11-16, 68 yds, 1 TD, 1 sack We were on national TV which exposes Fields to the rest of the country. If any of those teams are winning it quiets the negative. I think a lot of it has to do with the national take being, not very good, so they just like to say they were right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 17 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: Not true. Every fan base has angst over their young QB's. Fields is getting national attention for two reasons; the bears numbers are epically low and they know Fields is capable of way more than he's shown. Wilson threw for 110 yds and ran for 1 yd with 0 TDs and a total of 10 completions. This is the media headlines: "Zach Wilson and the Jets soar to victory over the Packers" - FOX Sports "Zach Wilson won in Lambeau against his idol, Aaron Rodgers" - Yahoo Sports 'Student' Zach Wilson Shows 'Teacher' Aaron Rodgers a Few Tricks in Jets' Win - from team website - hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, adam said: Wilson threw for 110 yds and ran for 1 yd with 0 TDs and a total of 10 completions. This is the media headlines: "Zach Wilson and the Jets soar to victory over the Packers" - FOX Sports "Zach Wilson won in Lambeau against his idol, Aaron Rodgers" - Yahoo Sports 'Student' Zach Wilson Shows 'Teacher' Aaron Rodgers a Few Tricks in Jets' Win - from team website - hilarious! There's nothing negative about the Jets winning in Lambeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said: There's nothing negative about the Jets winning in Lambeau. There is nothing neg. about any team winning in Lambeau. Except the Packers. Best game of week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Nothing magical here. Jets won behind 110yds of passing from their 2nd year QB and a strong running game from a former Iowa St. Cyclone at RB. The difference between them and us is they shutdown GBs running game. But yeah, per NFL media if you win the game the QB played well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill said: There is nothing neg. about any team winning in Lambeau. Except the Packers. Best game of week. Amen. Here’s to Mr Sauce (my new favorite player) and the Jets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Look at Sauce with the Rathead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Wilson today: 16-26, 121 yds, 4.7 YA, a week after 10-18, 110 yds. 231 passing yds in 2 games, yet when Fields had 2 games like that, the entire media establishment ripped him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 QBs who threw for under 150 yds in Week 7: Lamar Jackson 9-16, 120 yds Zach Wilson 16-26, 121 yds Marcus Mariota 8-13, 124 yds Ryan Tannehill 13-20, 132 yds QBs with under 150 passing yards the last two weeks (totals): Zach Wilson 26-44, 231 yds Marcus Mariota 21-27, 253 yds compare to: Fields 29-48, 398 yds INTs Matt Ryan - 9, on pace for 22 Matt Stafford - 8, on pace for 23 Kenny Pickett 7 INTs in 127 attempts Lamar Jackson 6 INTs in 197 attempts Mac Jones 5 INTs in 97 attempts Jameis Winston 5 INTs in 115 attempts Justin Fields 5 INTs in 115 attempts Fields not great, but every game he doesn't throw for 250 brings out the old narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 hours ago, adam said: Wilson today: 16-26, 121 yds, 4.7 YA, a week after 10-18, 110 yds. 231 passing yds in 2 games, yet when Fields had 2 games like that, the entire media establishment ripped him. The common thread between them? Both former GB offense (oriented) coaches. And we see how well GBs offense is running now with Rodgers struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said: The common thread between them? Both former GB offense (oriented) coaches. And we see how well GBs offense is running now with Rodgers struggling. Yeah, its almost like that offense needs an elite QB and WR1 to work. Kinda scares me because they should be molding the offense around the players they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, adam said: Yeah, its almost like that offense needs an elite QB and WR1 to work. Kinda scares me because they should be molding the offense around the players they have. Not to blame Getsy but... if you look at his coaching history, a good chunk of his time has been with GB, especially more recently. From 2014-17 he was their offensive quality control and wide receivers coach (under McCarthy) before going to Mississippi State to be the Off Coordinator and WR coach in 2017. Interestingly he was there for only one season before returning to GB where he became the QB coach in 2018 joining new HC Matt Lefleur. I'm guessing Rodgers put in a good word for him. At any rate, Getsy's time at Miss State wasn't necessarily one that would make you sit up and notice. Seems their offense was pretty lackluster during his one year there and after "another dismal performance on offense in the Outback Bowl", Getsy chose to return to GB. Some other notes of Getsy's tenure while at Miss State were the "up and down play from senior quarterback Nick Fitzgerald" and "Getsy's wide outs were also inconsistent." Lastly the article below notes: "Getsy shouldn't be blamed for most of Miss State's woes on offense, but he certainly didn't have any revolutionary solutions to the plethora of problems the unit had throughout the season." https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/mississippi-state/2019/01/21/mississippi-state-bulldogs-offensive-ccordinator-luke-getsy-green-bay-packers-wide-receivers-coach/2641854002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 You don't always know where rising stars are to be found because their mentors can either drive their success or stifle their success by forcing them to do things they'd rather not do (i.e. play this guy, call this play, etc.). Good people learn from both the good and bad scenarios and build it into their own work methods. Others try to apply what they've learned and simply can't at the next level. Would you rather Belichick/Josh McDaniels and his 2-4 Raiders with the top WR and 3x Pro Bowl QB, or Getsy and 2-4 Bears? What was Mike Tomlin's resume before he became a HC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 At this point, I have seen absolutely nothing from Getsy that says he can develop Fields (or any other offensive player), or that his play calling and scheme work. I have not seen it yet and after 6 games, you would hope to see some progress. Technically the WAS game was one of the worst with only 7 points scored. I hope he improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, adam said: At this point, I have seen absolutely nothing from Getsy that says he can develop Fields (or any other offensive player), or that his play calling and scheme work. I have not seen it yet and after 6 games, you would hope to see some progress. Technically the WAS game was one of the worst with only 7 points scored. I hope he improves. We just ignore the fact we're top 5 in rushing? Sure Justin (5.0ypc) is a part of that but nobody is taking Lamar Jackson's rushing yards away from Baltimore. Plus in reality we've had a good rushing game with our RBs (Herbert 6.3ypc, Monty 4.0ypc). That's despite having no passing attack to make DBs worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, AZ54 said: You don't always know where rising stars are to be found because their mentors can either drive their success or stifle their success by forcing them to do things they'd rather not do (i.e. play this guy, call this play, etc.) Funny enough I was listening to Stugotz and Lebatard earlier and they were talking about Brian Daboll in the same light. Until he joined Buffalo he was (as they described) a bit of a laughing-stock. But since he was with Buffalo he’s gotten some credit for making Josh Allen what he’s become . And to some level making Daniel Jones look good in NY. The thing with an example like Josh McDaniel is we’ve seen him make a mess of things in Denver before heading back to NE. And in all reality, so far all (or at least most) of Belichick’s coaching tree hasn’t really done much good outside of NE. Anyhow, all that said I’m not completely out on Getsy yet. It’s just interesting that both he and Hackett (in Denver) are struggling away from GB and under the protective umbrella of Rodgers. As I type this the Bears take on a very nice offensive drive with a score to take the lead 10-0. Maybe that mini-bye was a good thing after all? We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, AZ54 said: We just ignore the fact we're top 5 in rushing? Sure Justin (5.0ypc) is a part of that but nobody is taking Lamar Jackson's rushing yards away from Baltimore. Plus in reality we've had a good rushing game with our RBs (Herbert 6.3ypc, Monty 4.0ypc). That's despite having no passing attack to make DBs worry. The designed runs for Fields was the missing piece. Now defenses not only have to worry about him scrambling, but now they have to account for him from the snap as a runner. This is what I needed to see. I have not been impressed with some of the play designs but his play calling tonight was his best game yet. Very few plays were predictable outside of a few runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, adam said: The designed runs for Fields was the missing piece. Now defenses not only have to worry about him scrambling, but now they have to account for him from the snap as a runner. This is what I needed to see. I have not been impressed with some of the play designs but his play calling tonight was his best game yet. Very few plays were predictable outside of a few runs. That's ok but I don't want him taking hits. Take what you can get and get down. Tonight he was one step ahead of Belichick and I can't say I ever expected to say that about any Bears coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, AZ54 said: That's ok but I don't want him taking hits. Take what you can get and get down. Tonight he was one step ahead of Belichick and I can't say I ever expected to say that about any Bears coach. Yeah, the entire coaching staff. I don't know if we could ever say the Bears out coached anyone since Lovie, and the Bears did it with all units and time management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 One thing that was talked about before the Pats game was that Belichick was going surpass Papa Bear on the wins list. They waxed on about how poetic it was going to be, that it would be in front of his home crowd and against the Bears. They can all suck it! The collective spirit of Bears passed wasn't going to have it...💪🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Now the media has flipped on a dime. So funny. Come jump on the Fields bandwagon, we still have room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, adam said: Now the media has flipped on a dime. So funny. Come jump on the Fields bandwagon, we still have room. they always do for everything. so dont blame them, theyre spineless and automatic, you just win your share, and they love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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