Uncle Buck
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Spring hopes eternal; every year I hope my Cubs will win it all. So goes the Bear’s draft for me. There are players I do some pre draft research, I read as much as I can, I listen to shows filled with the experts. At the end of the day, I place my trust in the guys hired to do the job. Booms or busts, it all happens every year. I really just get a kick out of watching these young guys have their dreams fulfilled, even if just for a little while. Good luck to them all and I hope they can contribute to making the Bears better this year.
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1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
Saw this screenshot on Twitter but haven’t been able to find the actual article. If accurate, sounds like practices will be pretty intense.
I LIKE it!!! Can’t imagine what Eddie Jackson’s take is going to be.
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I’m good with it , now close the deal on a coach and build the collective vision. It will make for a good offseason.
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6 hours ago, Connorbear said:
Yeah, that was almost worse than last year. The only difference is they fired Nagy and Pace.
Further, the admonishing the high schoolers at Cary Grove High School was completely ridiculous and unnecessary.
I had a personal interaction with George with regards to my season tickets years ago. He was a douche then and remains a douche.
Peace
I had a personal interaction with him as well, away from football and he was every bit the douche and maybe more.
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Congratulations George, now follow through on doing the right thing; move Ted over to a business development role (head up the Arlington project) as he eases towards retirement. Get either a President of Football Operations or hire a GM with some powerful responsibilities. Baby steps, now execute on the next chapter
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Probably a most fitting end to this season; some flashes but in the end, the pantry was stocked with sub standard ingredients and the chef turns out to be batshit stupid.
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49 minutes ago, adam said:
Uncle Buck, you are being too nice lol.
2015: Eddie Goldman - overpaid DL who had 1 good year. Not even seen as a good pick anymore.
2016: Whitehair - only name in 2016 worth mentioning and he is an average interior lineman.
2017: Jackson and Cohen - this seemed like a good draft, but whoa. Jackson has been an under average Safety since his injury in 2018. Cohen hasn't played in 2 years.
2018: Roquan, Daniels, Nichols - This is a decent group but who knows if they will even resign Daniels or Nichols.
2019: Montgomery - Solid pick but RBs are so replaceable nowadays.
2020: Kmet, Johnson, Gipson, Mooney - Probably his 2nd best draft, but he drafted Kmet over WR, Johnson was a good pick, Gipson has flashed, and Mooney is a solid WR2.
2021: This might end up Pace's best draft, but it is all dependent on Fields. Nothing else matters.
Then you have the whiff on Trubisky.
Check out this tweet from Dan Durkin comparing Pace to other GMs who have been in the job as long or longer than him:
Pace is dead last in pretty much every category. I don't know how Mike Brown still has a job with the Bengals or Telesco with the Chargers.
Just the holiday spirit, lol! That tweet is pretty much the ball game on Pace. Interesting that some of the top GMs have/had great QBs : Big Ben, Brady, Brees. Hitting on or acquiring that elite QB can provide breathing room for sure. As for Pace, my blood boils to think George could convince himself to retain him. In just about every measurement, he’s mediocre. Keeping him in place and firing Nagy is an insulting gesture to the fans. To be honest, I wouldn’t expect any better from George, he truly is a dolt and he’s surrounded by idiots that tell him he’s special. It’s truly too bad Virginia didn’t step in years ago and keep her sons at bay.
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5 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
No need to apologize for the ramble, a lot of good accurate info.
There’s been discussion (a few types of course) about maybe someone at or around Ted Phillips’ level to help with managing the team. We’ve all seen the talk about possibly locating the Bears elsewhere and that Ted might be better served doing that. If that be the case, whomever that is could have direct oversight on what Pace does and how he does it. We’ve also heard the rumors ‘Pace is liked by the organization’ for whatever that’s worth. I’ve read the team is talking to football gurus like Bill Polian to get advice in their next move. Hope they listen.
Add in whomever the HC candidate is could have more say on player management (almost hybrid HC - GM). Candidates like Harbaugh, Frazier, Payton, Pedersen fit more into a mold like that than do others like Day, Daniels or Daboll.
So really, if Pace stays with the team he may end up being no more than a glorified scout with a lot of leashes.Maybe they transition him into a business side role like Ted had; Ted tutors him and they work hand in hand on the Arlington Heights project. It would make George happy, keeping his bureau around, and satisfy the rest of us who don’t want him anywhere the football side anymore.
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3 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:
I’m personally undecided on Harbaugh. On the one hand I like it; reaching back to guy who played with the Bears before (as a QB no doubt), success at both the NFL and college levels, success developing QBs. But in the back of my mind I have to ask is he the absolute best option out there? Especially for a player like Justin?
Speaking of his success at getting good assistant coaches; there’s rumors going wound Fangio may be let loose in Denver. Could Fangio and Harbaugh be reunited in Chicago? Would Vic do that to his protege Desai?
Lastly, then there’s this:
I just don’t get him staying. For me the jury is still out on the last two draft classes. Pace trades away far too many picks, at all rounds, so how do you add players? FA? FA is an expensive proposition. My opinion is rounds 4-7 are for roster bodies; it’s great when you hit but, and I don’t have numbers to back this up, but true playmakers or guys that move the needle (elite) don’t usually fall in these rounds. So Pace needs to hit on the stars in rounds 1-3 I don’t think he’s done it:
2015: Eddie Goldman-remaining player- above average round 2-probably last season with club
2016: Whitehair (rd 2), Bush and Houston-Carson, one above average and two serviceable players
2017: Jackson and Cohen; both average, hoth round 4
2018: Roquan, Daniels, Iggy, Nichols- superstar, avg or slightly above O lineman, special teamer, avg. D lineman
2019: Montgomery and Shelly: above average back and special teamer
2020: Kmet, Johnson, Gipson, Vildor, Mooney: avg TE, DB with promise, DE with promise, corner at best sb special teamer and receiver who probably will be a #2 at best( which isn’t bad) probably too early on these guys but my gut says Johnson will be the only difference maker
2021: too early
In Pace’s tenure 46 players drafted; 25 remain with team- 54% retention; is this good or bad?
During his 7 drafts; 65% times of the picks were from rounds 4-7; (30 players)
Rounds 1-3 rounds 16 players drafted; 2 WR, 2QB, 2 TE- offensive impact positions and there is some duplicity here . 9 of these 16 remain on the roster.
Under Pace he’s produced .430 winning%. Say the first three years he’s sculpting his roster- they had a .290 %. Year 4 through 7 the winning % is .530%.
The team peaked in 2018 under his reign, since then they are performing at a .460 clip
I know about the trades ie Mack and I don’t condemn the thought behind them but they also serve to place more pressure on future picks to still elevate the roster and team performance.
I don’t see a convincing case for his retention other than George is a dolt.
They need new voices in the building and the higher up it can get, the better. Sorry for the ramble.
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Mazel Tov!!! Congratulations!!!!
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Dave Toub seems to come up in a number of conversations about the head coach position. The league is full of older coaches who never seem to land the big job; I wonder what has been in the way of him landing the head coaching position? Is it because he’s a special teams coordinator? There’s been examples of coaches from that role making it. Just wondering what’s been in Toub’s way; bad interviewee, resume not impressive enough?
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11 hours ago, Connorbear said:
I read the article yesterday. Great summary. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
My opinion continues to be hire a director of football operations and let him decide what to do with Pace and Nagy. Focus Phillips on the new stadium until he retires.
Peace
I second this. It’s long past time to get a director of football operations to run the show, no more of this half assed approach. Let Ted ride out into the sunset; George needs to get serious.
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3 hours ago, AZ54 said:
Maybe this has some details from another board I check on sometimes (Bearsfansonline) but discourse is much better here.
Without posting the text of the full Trib article, here's what it summarized:
One Halas Hall source indicates that from the outside it's a nightmare, but inside, they are almost oblivious to how bad it is.
Multiple sources indicate that Phillips will distance himself from football ops
Another source indicated the Bears need to clean house from a systemic standpoint, well beyond just GM and coach
Gary Fencik and Pat Mannelly both are frustrated the team doesn't reach out to former Bears greats to build the franchise culture and get their insight
Fencik: "They don't even know how to go about being a good organization."
Pace is considered an all-star when it comes to pro personnel and college scouting, but avoids conflict and "rocking the boat" at all costs
----- the second part of that statement, if true, is a big problem for a GM but I'm always very cautious during times like these because it's easy for anyone and everyone to jump on the bandwagon so they look good jumping off a sinking ship. If it's a Halas Hall source is that someone who is also part of the problem? I also think some people just like seeing their quotes in the news. I'll add that IMO if a manager is doing their job right nobody else knows others are in trouble. I've had people spread rumors about me thinking I wasn't holding their poorly performing coworkers accountable when in fact they were already on a final warning. Then one day I'm letting them know their coworker is gone.
McCaskey is loathe to get rid of Pace due to his personal fondness for him. Pace may be the right guy to keep around if he's grown from his experience. He was very young when he started as GM. John Fox was forced upon him and so Nagy is really his only HC hiring experience. Raise your hand if you made a mistake the first time you did something.
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There is some speculation that the Bears might be trying to figure out how to reduce Pace's role somewhat so he's still on talent scouting but bringing in a Head of Football Operations person (Trace Armstrong rumor) who would have control over coaching hires. Based on the rumors swirling I suspect that is what the Bears are trying to do. In that case Pace would quietly accept a reduced role but they'd likely let him keep the GM title and he'd still be the guy doing the press conferences while Ops mgr stays in the background. New Ops Mgr would have decision making over things like draft trades, FA strategies, cap management, etc. Or maybe it goes the other way around and Pace gets the new title with reduce football role but stays involved in player acquisition/talent scouting and someone else gets hired as GM. Semantics.
Thanks AZ, that’s a great summary on the article. I was amazed at the lack of contact with former players, not that they’re obligated but George and Teddy had a free education at their doorstep by picking the brains of former Bears. Can’t get better at a craft you don’t study and show true curiosity. The handling of the Patch report showed exactly how clueless and ignorant this leadership team is.
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My apologies on two fronts; first if this has already been mentioned and second because I can’t figure out how to link it but Dan Wiederer had a great article in today’s Chicago Tribune about the leadership of this team. A great, great read. I can only hope George is finally truly enlightened because there’s some pretty damning stuff there.
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33 minutes ago, adam said:
Yep, Jenkins looked like a guy who has played football in over a year. Let's just throw him in at LT on SNF on the road.
Outside of Fields and Jenkins, what else is there to watch?
I have really soured on Mooney. He can't make contested catches and has way too many balls go off his hands that turn into INTs. How many of Fields INTs were Mooney targets? He is fading to a WR3 for me. Of his 3x 100 yd games, 2 are against the Lions and the other was against the Ravens where he was targeted 16 times and only caught 5 passes.
ARob can just go on IR. I don't want to see him in a Bears jersey again. The minute he got hit with the franchise tag, he checked out. Good riddance.
There seems to be a general malaise that appears to have settled in on a number of players. The season is lost and a number of them appear to reflect it in their play. Smith and Grant played like men possessed. I’m sure for various reasons (pride, contract,etc.) but as a fan I appreciate it. This franchise sure could use a major shock to the system. They need a major dose of confidence and swagger from the top. George needs to get someone in who walks the walk and takes no prisoners. George and Ted are too milquetoast. They inspire no one and they don’t project confidence. A rebirth is desperately needed
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Outside of Fields’ development, what are you looking for down the stretch here? Personally, I’m keen on seeing how the two tackles progress from here.
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On 11/25/2021 at 3:19 PM, BearFan2000 said:
Happy thanksgiving to everyone here. We have much to be thankful for especially this year. This past Tuesday my Dad had a heart attack, and his recovery’s has gone so well that he was able to celebrate Thanksgiving with us today. And my wife and I are about 6 weeks away from welcoming a new Bears fan. Maybe by the time she’s old enough the Bears will be good again.
Wishing everyone a happy and safe Thanksgiving!
Sorry I missed your response. Congratulations on a few fronts; so glad to hear your father is on the mend, I hope he continues on the path to wellness. Fantastic news for you and your wife, mazel tov !
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If George evaluates this season on this game against a winless team then he’s a bigger idiot than I thought . This team is hapless and the management is the reason.
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Happy Thanksgiving to you all ! I enjoy coming here , mostly to read the commentary of my fellow Bears fans. You bring so much to the discussion and often joy is at the center of your words and thoughts, and for that I’m grateful. I hope you enjoy the day in your own special way. Take care and be safe.
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11 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
Or asking Bruce Arians to do a mock press conference...
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39 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
I don't get why they would have him coach Thursday if it is true.
Because they’re the Bears, that’s how the McCaskey family rolls. 🤷♂️Remember the Dave McGinnis cluster freak?
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Source out there. He will coach Thursday supposedly. The press conferences today should be interesting if this is confirmed
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At this point, there are no “moral” victories, no feel good moments, no victory for development. Given all who were missing this game, it was there for the taking. This is emblematic of this coaching staff’s time here.
Week 2 Official Game Thread - CHI @ GB, 09/18, 7:20PM CDT, GB -10 O/U 43
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Wonder what the halftime is going to be like? Coach has a lot of loafs to give out