Daventry
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1 hour ago, jason said:
Disagree. With the Bears, it’s ALWAYS time to question everything. Until they can prove the organization isn’t a perpetual clusterf**k, everything must be questioned.
Absolutely. I hope the Bears are successful, but year after year they are terrible with a new excuse every year. The one common denominator is the owners.
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I agree with Adam, it doesn’t feel like a good draft. With all of the years of failure, I am still suspicious, new HC or not. I am not sold on Poles anymore. I hope I am wrong but it feels like more of the same silliness that we have seen for decades.
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2 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:
typical bear shite. how can the gm (poles) choose a HC candidate that wants to throw him out? just more bear franchise nonsense.
Exactly, doing it all wrong again. Keeping Poles is a mistake and McCaskeys are obviously still involved, which equals doom. How did a great city and fans get absolutely screwed with such an absolutely incompetent and weak ownership? The press conference proves what a joke it all is, it’s a big Ship of Fools.
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One thing is for sure, the offensive line wasn’t addressed well at all. Very poor, and did we need another WR or an OL more? Seems very clear that OL was a much greater need. Too many abject failures; Claypool, Davis, Jones and others. It’s not good enough.
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1 hour ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:
That was as bad as Caleb has looked all season. Right up there with the Patriots game. The Bears are one of the only teams I see on gamedays that presumably don't have a hot read package to exploit a blitz. I simply can't fathom how one could run an offense without them. Is the quarterback not adjusting protections, or is it Thomas Brown not giving him the right options to work with? This season cannot end soon enough. I hate everything about this team.
We've all been through a lot as fans over the years, but I think this might be the most miserable I've ever been about a season in my 25-ish years of watching this franchise. I legit don't think I'm even going to watch next week, and I've never voluntarily chosen to not watch a Bears game. I want this to be over and done with today. Just hire Ben Johnson, fire Ryan Poles, and let's get to the draft so we can have the annual 4-5 months of off-season optimism before reality kicks us in the face again once the season starts.
I agree, I feel lower about the team than before because my expectations were high. Wrong again. The people I thought would turn the ship around capsized it again. I expect the owners, the real albatross around the teams neck, to keep Poles and extend the misery. People were chanting “sell the team” after the game but I doubt they will. I don’t know how to feel optimistic for this franchise anymore.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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2 hours ago, CrackerDog said:
Guys, I’m not sure where to even start. But before the season I think most of us thought Poles had this thing heading in the right direction. And yes we were questioning the offensive line and after taking so many hits there what was questionable became a weak link.
The record at the beginning of the season was always a mirage. And the wheels came off due mostly to us facing better teams but also due to horrendous coaching.
Just hiring a new coaching staff and repeating the cycle again doesn’t seem to be the answer to me. That said, I’m lost as to where we go from here. I really can’t even watch the games at this point. And Caleb is THIS CLOSE to being the latest sacrificial lamb on the Bears QB alter.
I still believe Poles brought a great deal of talent to our rosters but there have also been several mistakes. And leaving the coaching staff in place for this season was a huge mistake. Hindsight is 20 20. I don’t believe he made that decision in a vacuum and the rot starts at the top of the organization.
More great draft picks this year and a new coaching staff, is that really all we have to look forward to? I’ve done that now for 20+ years, every 3, 4 or 5 years. Nothing changes!
Talk me off the ledge guys. Please.
I feel the same way, more and more I am concluding that the owners have, are, and will continue to cause us to be losers. I only watched the first quarter of the Vikings game, when we started right off going for it on fourth down I decided I had seen that movie before and I didn’t need to watch it again. I suspect the McCaskeys influence management hires and other big decisions and the whole family seem to be entitled clowns. I have gotten to the point of disinterest. I still have hope, but that definition of insanity saying echoes in my brain.
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8 hours ago, jason said:
BTW-I’ve always contended that it’s just for the Bears. Maybe a few other perennial losers. But not applicable to the Niners, Ravens, Steelers, etc.
I have read those statements for years and didn’t believe it for awhile but definitely have changed my mind over the years. Not only would several people on this board do better, I think anyone could probably read the magazines and watch the pods and do better without any football knowledge. Ridiculous.
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9 hours ago, adam said:
The roster is too weak. If SF could do that to the Bears with 10+ starters injured, then the 3-4 guys the Bears were missing shouldn't have mattered. Their 5th string RB scored a TD on the Bears defense. At the end of Year 3 and the team still needs a DT, Edge, CB, probably another S, and an upgrade at LB. That's 5 on defense. On offense, they need at least 3 on the O-Line at a minimum and a real threat to catch the ball at TE. That is another 5 players without counting depth pieces. There is no way this roster should be that weak after 3 full offseasons.
We are not the only ones smelling the reek
https://apple.news/AkjnrOFGMQAaK1BtDfXSD5w
There is no way we should be that poor with so many draft picks and money available. Fire Poles.
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9 hours ago, adam said:
Poles has to go. The Bears need a clean slate to start fresh with Williams. Someone needs to come in and build inside out, all trenches until they are top 10 units.
I agree, this year has shown a harsh light on the organisation overall. The game yesterday really showed how weak the team is right now. Poles is responsible. He completely failed to address the o line, and the longer we go, the more holes appear. I am sure he won’t lose his job though, it’s the McCaskey way to tolerate poor performance.
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1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:
I've seen a bunch of different articles about them being woke. I cant find any right now unfortunately. However, they hired Poles and Eberflus with a panel that included McCaskey, Ted Phillips, Bill Polian, Soup Campbell and Tanesha Wade, who is the team's DEI director.
But my problem with it isn't so much that's it's politically left or right, but any time you left some outside idea take momentum from the main goal which needs to be winning, then youre putting yourself at a disadvantage in a league that's already really hard to win in.
Whether it be political (on either side) or about being religious (going to church with the McCaskeys) or even if it's just about being a boy scout - all these external concerns muddy the waters for finding winners.
Pat McAfee was reporting the other day that some NFL insider told him that some teams (not necessarily the Bears!) are afraid to hire Mike Vrabel because he is so physically imposing! What?! Being a major alpha is a problem in football?!
When we get to the point that owners are afraid to put their most potent options in charge because it is more important that they dominate their coach rather than that the coach dominates the league, then you have real problems.
The essence of the problem is ideology that hinders winning seems to be occurring. How does Green Bay manage to be good consistently? Meanwhile, the Chicago Bears are consistently poor? Look at the market share difference. The Bears organisation has been terrible for a long time.
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1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
I don't view them as being woke or politically correct, but finding people that will abide to their restrictions. Every team has it, but the McCaskeys tend to want that good boy image. They need to open up a little and let the people they hire run the operations without their consent. You can report to them, but no feedback required.
I suppose I don’t have any concrete evidence of wokeness per se, although I certainly noticed the preponderance of blm/anti-racism propaganda on their media when all of that erupted, and noticed the rainbow stuff on their media until I unsubscribed from their page. I also remember getting rid of the much loved honey bears. They are obviously doing something wrong, the buck stops with them. The one constant over the last decades of failure is the McCaskeys. What a great day it would be to see them sell the team.
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On 12/6/2024 at 5:30 PM, Mongo3451 said:
💯. As I get older, it gets harder and harder to root for them.
I feel exactly the same. I get some really bad vibes with the limited information available about the owners, eg they seem to be at the forefront of the woke agenda, seem to only hire vanilla people, and have been at the helm with some really poor years and still make money. I hope they sell so badly, I would prefer Pee Wee Herman as the owner to the beige politically correct current regime.
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16 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
Let's play chicken and egg. The unverified reports say Poles wanted to fire Flus at the end of last season, but the McCaskey's said no. Now, the same reports are saying Warren made the call on Harbaugh. Since it's really Poles who should be hiring and firing coaches, do we blame the new scapegoat or the old villains for the latest scrambled egg?
What we do know is that it took a meeting with George and Kevin before Ryan could do his job. What we also know is that Jim Harbaugh wanted to come here. The "they didn't want me" quote is seared into my brain as a reminder of the ineptitude of the McCaskey family.
I'm thoroughly convinced they are in it for the money at the expense of winning. I'm not buying any more Bear wear and am considering other actions.
At the end of today we have a GM that's powerless, a president with no plan for a stadium, yet is going to take his valuable time to find the next coach.(He was basketball guy). Lastly, we a 103 year old matriarch pulling the shorthairs of her moron son. I'm beginning to despise this franchise.
What would y'all think about constructing a letter to the family from our site? We could use our membership numbers as something that may carry some weight. Or at the least, they may actually read it.
I would be up for that, my main frustration is that we seem hamstrung by the owners. Maybe Bezos will buy the team.
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38 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
that is true of everything posted on this site, isnt it? Im not thinking that the Bears should call me on the phone, but i do think they have made a bunch of mistakes, and a lot of us here have seen them coming. For me, Poles should not be the one making the decision on the new HC.
This doesnt make sense to me. Everyone is saying hes a candidate for GM that other teams are looking at, and we should know him well enough now to know what we think of him internally?
Also, youd have to know what Cunningham has been saying about these decisions all along. We dont, but Warren does. Maybe Warren already knows enough to know that my hunch is wrong.
if they go to Cunningham then they could do that at any time, before the coaching heats up - plus no doubt Cunningham is already involved in the internal coaching search, so he has as much info as Poles right now.
I agree I want a GM making that decision. But if you get someone wh has run a modern offense, and has leadership skills and alpha energy it's not THAT hard to do.
I can make you a list of guys that dont have that energy and never should have been hired: Trestman, Nagy, Eberflus - I knew the moment I saw them speak they didnt have that thing that for example Dan Campbell has just dripping out of him. Campbell may not have Xs and Os like some genius nerds, but he has that alpha thing for DAYS.Agreed, Campbell was integral in the transformation of the Lions. I have to admit, I like to see them doing well, Detroit deserves it. We deserve it more though, lol.
I would encourage Phx, and everyone really, to ignore your protagonist, “Stinger”. He has nothing useful to say, the same guy who complained endlessly about the need to keep Fields etc. The ignore option is available and helps one to focus on intelligent views.
I would like to see Poles go too, if a better option is identified. His performance is mediocre at best and he is responsible for Eberflus. He is the named responsible person. That, along with Nate Davies, TURD of the year, Velus Jones, Claypool, and more equals giving him the happy heave ho. -
9 hours ago, adam said:
I agree with everything except for the Poles comment. He didn't even talk to Daniels, and Williams was pretty much a no-brainer pick. The trade that got them the pick was also an easy button. Credit for just doing your job is like a participation trophy.
To be a truly successful franchise, you have to be better than the norm. I don't know where Poles has done that yet holistically. Coaching hires have been subpar, free agents have been mixed, and draft picks for the most part have played only to their draft status and not beyond. For every Dexter there is a Stevenson or Pickens. For Caleb, there is Velus.
In the big picture, Poles has done nothing spectacular that makes you think he can build a long term winner. I am assuming that he doesn't get fired (unless they lose out), so if he addresses the trenches and doesn't draft a ILB and a TE in the first 3 rounds, then I will be ok with keeping him. The fear is we lose Cunningham this offseason and he was the one keeping Poles in check.
I agree, and feel foolish now that I was so convinced Poles was the answer. He is better than Pace, but then how much does that say? Overall, his record with personnel is mediocre and picking coaches is poor.
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6 hours ago, adam said:
Absolutely. Remember it was Polian helping with hires and or always hiring from within. Guys like Trace Armstrong have way too much pull in the organization for not being part of it. Armstrong was Nagy's agent, Flus' agent, Poles' agent, and Waldron's agent, maybe more.
That is a huge problem if you ask me.
It is a sad situation to be in. I love the Bears but they have been terrible for too long to tolerate. Plus they seem to be one of the more woke team in a woke league, which doesn’t thrill me either. Maybe if people stopped watching something would change?
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8 minutes ago, adam said:
Most Bears fans are numb this by now. So I can understand every range of emotion and don't blame people who want to cheer for a win or a loss at this point. It won't change the outcome on the field.
In recent years, we have just 1 winning season in last 12, 8 double digit loss seasons, and only 1 double digit win season (2018). So if you are 20 yrs old or younger, that is all you probably know in your fandom, which is quite sad. I at least remember 85 and 2006, but we are about to be 18 yrs since the last time the Bears were in the SB. We deserve better.
Amen. And I really believe the McCaskeys are making it much more difficult for us to win. I imagine they have more influence than we know. The level of failure noted above is staggering.
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That is another of Poles signings. Definitely a big miss there, I hope I wasn’t completely wrong about Poles.
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That makes me feel much better.
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15 hours ago, adam said:
F*%k this team. An absolute poverty franchise. We all could see this coming a mile away. They had to move on from Flus or they would be repeating the same thing they did for the last 2 1st round QBs, and they did it AGAIN.
Now it is going to burn at least another year of Caleb's rookie deal in a partial rebuild year as this one is lost.
GB 45 - Shitty Team 6What a shame but you are right. Complete sh?t show again, with different players except for the owners. We will be embarrassed by our biggest rival again. Stop supporting the team people.
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I am worn out with this team. The constant is the owners, who continue to make money while the team is poor. I am not spending any more money on the Bears until they get respectable. And not as much time either. If I performed half as bad as this team has for the last twenty years, I would have been fired and unemployed years ago.
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Hard to watch today.
Both sides of the ball look rough, the offensive side particularly.
Whats wrong with our offence?
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18 hours ago, adam said:
Watching the Pittsburgh game is giving me anxiety lol.
They are winning (15-7 lol), but it is soooo painful. Fields currently is 10-17 for 83 yards, was sacked once, threw an INT but it was called back for roughing the passer, he threw the ball backwards over the RB's head that almost led to a fumble. His scoring drives have been comical, the best one is 5 plays, 3 yards, FG. He also leads the game in rushing with 44 yards and a TD.
And just think how some here wanted to keep him and pass on CW….yikes!
Bears select Luther Burden (WR) at Pick #39
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I wish it was the stadium that was the problem rather than the McCaskeys. And they will probably never sell.