BearsFan1974
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This is right on the money. Lots of teams in the league could benefit from having an elite deep-ball specialist. The Bears aren't one of them. Moss gives up on routes, he doesn't fight for the ball over the middle, he has lapses in concentration...all the things the Bears' existing receivers have been struggling with. And sure, he's an upgrade over Knox and Hester for go routes, but that's not where the Bears need to upgrade. Moss doesn't bring the things to the table that the Bears are missing. They'd be much better served with a reliable over-the-middle WR like Anquan Boldin or Brandon Marshall than a straight-line guy like Moss.
Moss' other big value is as a coverage magnet, but I'm not sure that would help the Bears either. Sure, teams will roll extra coverage to him, and they'll play more guys in deep coverage to take away Moss as a home run threat. But you need to capitalize on the room he frees up underneath with lots of short, quick throws. The Pats did that with Welker, and the Vikings were doing it with Harvin before they cut Moss. But Martz has never incorporated a Welker/Harvin role into his offense. There's no way he's going to dial up shallow crosses and slants 20 times a game. Hell, he even sends his running backs on posts and fades. I just don't see it.
I'm not saying sign the guy to a 4 year contract or even a 2 or 3 year contract. We need WR help bottom line. We have almost ruined Hester as a WR and maybe he can learn something from Moss. Maybe Knox can learn how to run the route as drawn up and not cut them off. Maybe he can show Aromashadu get open while Cutler is running for his life. SInce Moss is such the same receiver, maybe he can teach the kids we have now so next year we won't have such a problem at the WR position.
When all is said and done, all we would have to bitch about is the O-Line which yes IS A BIGGER PROBLEM. (CAPS intended Jason). But for the love of God, we have a problem that can be addressed and albeit not the perfect solution or permanant one...it is one. What do we have now? WR's who need to learn and a potential addition who can teach cause it's his style.
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Like it or not...the phrase "yes we need O-line BUT..." immediately makes me disagree with your post.
Ok call common sense that Moss can't fill 2 needs on our offense, but in reading all the posts and watching the games, we NEED a WR and O-Line. If I'm not mistaken Moss is still a good WR and better than anything Angelo has put together. Yes we need a Line and if there was a viable solution, I would like to think the front office would make a move, just as I would think they would make a play to better our WR core with adding Moss.
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OK I'll bite. I am one that once said that Chicago needed a #1 WR but that was before I realized how badly they need someone on the OL more. Does that make me a hypocrite? Hardly. Not even contradictory like your post is.
Moss is bad news and for what in skills he may still have he loses in leadership. Me thinks Minn saw that too late or why else would they be willing to piss away a third round pick for a player they used for only three weeks? And not only that but risk a Det, GB or even Chicago signing him?
So I say no thanks and am glad to see Minn falling apart. At this rate the only real competition in the division is going to be Detroit.
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE TOMORROW!!!!
Yes Moss is bad news, but we still need a receiver. Yes we need O-Line but we NEED a receiver. I'm not saying we're gonna get the second coming if we sign Moss, but what do you think NE expected when they got him from Oakland after lackluster years? I say it can't hurt because he'll still draw double coverage and that will open up our other receivers. That might open up the running game as well because the pass threat would make teams put in an extra DB...now if only Martz would call a run and do 3-5 step drops on pass plays.
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Do you think the Bears would sign him? Do you want him? After all, he is a number one WR that we need. Just throwing that out there.....
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I appreciate your time and effort. Thanks.
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Will do. Hope you get to see the game. If you can't, check out justin.tv and you might be able to find a good stream of the game.
I appreciate your time and effort. Thanks.
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I think Rivera, Frazier, and definately Cowher would be great additions. With that said, since Singletary should be unemployed at season's end, he could be the D-Coordinator. He has a grasp on the defensive aspect. Rivera, as stated earlier in the thread, has paid his dues and his time has come. We need to make a splash in free agency with a top O-line and WR FA. Martz needs to go before Cutler gets killed. We really can't blame Tice for the O-line's problems for the simple fact no matter how much you polish a turd, it will forever be a turd.
--BearsFan1974
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I am in the Air Force and stationed overseas. AFN, the broadcasting network for the Armed Forces, has a Viewer's Choice where we pick the game seen overseas. For the last 3 weeks, Bears' fans stationed overseas have been stuck watching the Saints against the Bucs and Browns. Right now the Saints are winning again and I can't take it!!!
What I ask of my fellow Bears' fans is go to AFN Fan's Choice and vote for the Bears vs Bills. This would allow all the Bears' fans serving our country to watch them.
I thank you for your time and your vote. Let's do this the Chicago way and vote early and vote often.
--BearsFan74
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You make it sound like the only routes this guy runs are fly patterns and fades. He gets open and our WRs don't. Our WRs have speed but can't get open. Our guys get jammed up at the line which screws up the timing and that's what Martz' O is based on. It's based on timing and spots. If they get jammed up the can't get to there spot when they're supposed to. If the receivers get jammed up, that makes it more difficult for Cutler who doesn't have enough time as it is. So yes, I am listening to myself when I say he can show our guys a litlle something. You like this amazing offensive display that we have been treated to this season? To me that move makes perfect sense.