An unusual rumor that New England wants Shaq Thompson and may try to trade up had me thinking of a swap.

#1-7=1500, for #1-31=600, next years 1st= 500, #2-62=296, #3-94=116

1-31 = Benardrick McKinney MLB

2-39 =Todd Gurley RB

2-63=Hronis Grasu C

3-71=Durrell Eskridge FS

3-95=Jake Fisher OT

4-103=Quinton Rollins CB

5-Denver

6-WR

 

I'm still not seeing a leak anywhere other than what hub said, and hub didn't say anything about him getting cut.

 

Regardless, some leverage would remain, as if he's released (not gonna happen) then the whole league can get their hands on him, while in a trade you don't run the risk of losing out to him.

The leaks are the rumblings that writers are speculating. I don't think any team will trade more than a 4th for him. The way rookie WRs have produced, plus a trade leaves his contract intact, and no team will want his dead money on the books.

 

I am sure there are Bears that do not like him, but the team is better with him than without.

Didn't know where else to put this, so just created a new thread. Given that we spent the time to interview him, he's clearly someone on the radar. Tweet was from Peter King of SI. There was talk that Quinn was hoping to work with the Vikings Asst. Gm, who turned down all interviews and chose to stay in Minny.

I do like Seattles D and teams are sure to try and copy that. Their D was good the year before Quinn took over too. I put their success in Wilson emerging at QB. The energetic HC, OC that picked and groomed Wilson, a innovative GM that found success in big late round DBs and Brady/Quinn running a #1 D 3 years in a row.

 

Does Quinn turn out like Gus Brady? Hard to evaluate Brady, I'd like to see how Jax plays 2 years from now. But I think Quinn can be a good candidate.

I could warm up to this idea if someone were interested in giving us a 2nd rounder for him. But then, probably, only if the new HC and GM thought this was the best move given the offense they planned on running.

Well the "leak" already ruined any leverage in a trade. Who would give up a 4th or higher for a ticking time bomb if the Bears are realeasing him and his contract get terminated?. I don't think Marshall has been bad, but you do have to worry about him.

Sometimes bringing in older and more experienced is the way to go. Look at the Giants approach with Coughlin. Shanny also should have a good network of coaches to call upon, compared to an up and coming coordinator. Since I have no say on what the Bears will do, I just try to stay optimistic with their decisions.

Ballard also declining interview with Eagles. It seems pretty clear were he is going.

His records are due to longevity and the era he is playing in.

 

How has the Bears franchise been since he took over? The Bears have been in the playoffs once and won 1 out of 11 games against their biggest rival. His 6 years has been a dark era.

 

The Bears won't produce better than that, until they unhitch their wagon from Cutler. If the Bears stuck with Kordell Stewart for 6 years, he'd hold all the records too. He'd still be a bad QB.

 

Kordell wasn't good enough to have a new contract offered to him. He didn't cost 2-1st round draft picks either. I only support Jay because I think it would be foolish to get rid of him until a capable replacement can be groomed. There are no perfect candidates that will ever hit FA, teams do not let go of those players. We hold the #7 pick and there still isn't a qb worth that risk to groom into a franchise qb. Hopefully by the 2016 draft, there will be one. How Jay needs to be handled is not to coddle him, he starts getting careless with the ball, you sit him.

Unlike the past 6 years, where the QB lead the league in tu. rnovers twice?

But will also hold every QB record in Bears franchise history.... Love him or hate him, the Bears haven't produced better

Not sure Allen is a fit as wither a DE or a OLB, but the rest is possible.

 

I happen to think Bostic and Jones would be a pretty good duo at ILB. I've always thought that one should be there for coverage (Bostic) and one for run support (Jones).

 

Young should be solid of the edge, and while I think the 3 other guys you listed can be solid I'd be real tempted to draft one of the freaks at the top of the draft.

Ray or Beasley would be easy. The draft would make so much sense if we had that D because I do not like our choices in our current scheme. Round 2 good chance to grab a ballhawk FS or If Peters CB or Oakman DE falls.

I really want a defensive minded guy brought in and what's interesting is a lot of those guys, including Bowled who they plan on interviewing, run a 3-4 D.

 

I smell the annual 3-4 defense thread coming around the corner.

Just think, we could have had Bowles already. If only they chose Arians over Trestman lol.

3-4 is possible.

DE-Sutton, Houston, Allen,

NT-Ratliff, Ferguson, Paea

OLB-Young, McClellin, Washington, Bass

ILB-Bostic, Jones, Greene

CB-Fuller, Jennings

S-Mundy, Vereen

That list is fine, but the Bears need to be searching from the best teams imo. Teams that have long term success. Sounds like they will hire someone from the above list. I would like to see them add guys from GreenBay, New England, Pittsburgh etc. Nick Careio 39 years old, Director of player personnel could be a Theo Epstein? Well, Ballard interviews today or tomorrow. In 4-5 days, we should have a better idea.

I have not seen this guy mentioned, any thoughts?

 

Alonzo Highsmith-Green Bays Senior Personnel Executive

Yes, he is the former RB. Been a college scout for Ron Wolf since 1999. He has been building GBs roster the past 15 years. He knows the Bears pretty well and can share what he has learned from inside GB. Being Ted Thompsons right hand man and understanding players put him up on my list.

Yeah...it was an autocomplete issue. Borland.

 

As for the draft and no OL, I don't like this class a lot. Add that to the Oregon C, and I think the OL would be one of the strongest parts of the team. And since most of this team is bad, an average OL is probably a minimal need. This team desperately needs Safety help, just like last year. Now we know the LBs are not good, but they are young and athletic. They just need discipline. And I've already stated that DL isn't a position I think the Bears will draft much, if at all.

 

I like the draft, I would consider a LB at 2 though. I would think one of the top 4 may be available. You have Shaq Thompson, Denzel Perryman, Benardrick McKinney, and Erik Kendricks. Grasu or Dismukes at Center would be wise and that is still drafting oline early. Between Mills, Ola, Groy, and Leno, one or two will develop and step up also.

2016 draft, give me Alabamas Derrick Henry. He will be a beast

My early vote is in for Collins. He's a play-maker and a difference-maker. He's a stud.

 

I'm in for Collins or Thompson. Collins for his leadership, he is in charge of the defensive huddle. Thompson, I know he plays to win and gives extra effort and an athletic freak. They said he is as good of a RB as a LB.

 

 

edit: Just read Draftteks 4 round mock - This will keep the Oline guys and defensive guys happy

 

1-Landon Collins S

 

2-Erik Kendricks LB (also available: Marcus Peters CB)

 

3-Reece Dismukes C (also available: Todd Gurley RB)

 

4-Corey Robinson RT

 

 

 

Albert Breer ✔ @AlbertBreer Follow Seahawks DC Dan Quinn interviewed with the Niners last night, will interview with the Jets and Bears on Friday, and Falcons on Saturday.

 

 

I said the same thing when JA got tossed. http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/...all-bill-polian

 

I agree. Make it hard to refuse and make a statement. Phillips has no right to be the President of the Chicago Bears. That is "The Chicago Bears", George Halas's team dammit. There is no seriousness of winning or becoming a top down football structure unless the old failing top comes down first.

 

 

Really?! With Allen, Houston, Paea, Ratliff, Sutton, and Young all likely back, you want a speed rush DE? Who do you sit? Allen or Young? Or Houston? Are you proposing a four DE rotation? Or cutting one of the aforementioned? I just don't see a DE in the first. I truly hope it doesn't happen, either, because the guys at the Bears' spot are McClellin-esque.

 

With our current roster, I don't see how we can add more to the DE either, possibly DT if Paea is not re-signed. It would be a luxury pick or we will be cutting players creating more dead cap. I can see finding a cheaper FA to come in on a one year deal if Houston/Young/Washington are expected to miss a portion of next season.

 

This roster needs 2-Safeties (starters or depth), 1-MLB(starter), 1-CB-(starter/nickel/depth), 1-TE (depth), 1-C (starter/depth), and 1-QB(#1/#2 vet)

 

Until this team has depth at all positions, we cannot afford to cut under performing vets or failed draft picks. This stems back from 10 years of bad drafting.

 

 

Quinns specialty is the DL right? Well their DL is as follows Michael Bennett- Made 7M this year and had success before Seattle Cliff Avril- Also making 7M a year and had success before Seattle Kevin Williams- A former multiple time pro bowler Brandom Mebane- A 3rd rounder Jordan Hill- Another 3rd rounder I wouldn't say his DL is filled with a lot of late round draft picks and cheap free agents at all. Again, I'm not saying I'm against his hire, just pointing out that you don't want Gase because he has a ton a talent, well so does Quinn.

 

tidbits:

 

I was more thinking of Sherman, Chancellor, and Maxwell being 5th/6th RD picks. Browner was an UDFA. KJ Wright a 4th, but Bobby Wagner a 2nd. We know Earl Thomas and Bruce Irvin were 1st's. Being a Bear fan, when has 3rd RD picks ever amount to anything, LoL. Basically, the 2013 Superbowl year, Michael Bennett was on a 1year trial contract and Avril was signed on a 2 year deal. Kevin Williams joined in 2014 and Michael Bennett, and Cliff Avril have re-signed/extended their contracts in 2014, after the Superbowl win.

 

*Seattle didn't start winning until Russell Wilson (3rd RD) came in 2012. That might be the key to their success.

 

Defensively, they were ranked high in 2012 with Gus Bradley as DC (Quinn was in Florida) #1 Pts, 4th in yrds, and 5th in TO's. Bradley was then hired by Jacksonville for HC in the 2013 season and Seattle brought back Quinn. In 2013 their D ranked 1 in TOs, Yds, and Pts allowed, followed by 2014 4th in TO's, 1st yds, and 1st tds allowed.

 

Jacksonville under Gus Bradley have not improved much defensively and still hover the 25-29th area, but their DC is our very own Bob Babich, hence Bradley was a Monte Kiffin guy.

 

Gase very well may be a good OC future HC. Having Manning who is the smartest/hardest working QB I've seen does help.

 

After watching at least the last 2 years of Seattle, I have said as early as last year that I want our D to play like theirs. That D style is new, fun to watch, and proven to dominate.

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed, plus with his coaching title, it sounds like his job is similar to what Kromer's was under Trestman. I honestly know little of the Seahawks, just an observation.

The Seahawks have talent, but alot are later rounds picks and cheaper FAs. Give that to their GM. They are great because of the home field 12th man and their defensive scheme (coaching), Wilson was a Bevell project that has a perfect scheme to enhance his talents. It's about coaching fellas, having a good combination of GM down to position coaches. I like the defense better than their offense, thats why I want Quinn.

I view Vereen as the successor at FS. Gotta see what we have in him. Collins is perfect for the Bears at that spot. He will line up for the Bears for years. Too bad they didnt go FS last year when ther were players available...the Bears could have had two Alabama players side by side in HHCD and Collins.

 

Vereen deserves a chance, but I don't think he will be anything special. I would have him compete with a 2-3rd round pick.

There are many ways to go about the draft, I can see it going

1-SS-Collins

2-LB Thompson, Kendricks, McKinney, or Perryman (one has to be there)

3-FS Durrell Eskridge, Anthony Harris, Derron Smith

Vereen might wind up being Nickle?

 

The middle of the D has been soft since Urlachers glory days, this would be a big help.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000045...ake-great-coach

 

 

Bronco players seem to like him.

 

Denver has been stacked with talent the last couple of years. I will pass

 

Give me Daniel Quinn DC Seahawks-DL specialist

I agree but out current S have no positives... haha

I kinda like this class of Safeties, but all after round 1. If we took Collins rd1, I wouldn't hate it because we are thin at the posistion.

My Ranking (I prefer FS)

Collins SS

Holliman FS

Eskridge FS

Derron Smith FS

Anthony Harris SS/FS

Jaquiski Tartt SS

Kurtis Drumond FS

Cody Prewitt FS

 

 

The best part is Marenelli chose Arians and Arians didn't even want him.

Right now

He has some flaws since this is first full season of starting but I would welcome him in RD2 or 3.