ASHKUM BEAR
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I really like Gilbert and Denard, but at the same time I really like the depth at CB of this draft class. I'd really like to see one drafted in the 3rd, where there will still be a lot of quality players available. Really liked what I saw out of Pierre Desir at the Senior Bowl, he's who I have my eye on in the 3rd. If he's gone then you should still have a guy like Breeland, Watkins, Purifoy, McGill, Baptiste, or Reynolds there for the pickins, all of which would be good picks. I only go with Gilbert/Denard if somehow Donald/HHCD/Pryor are all gone....Even then I might consider Hageman or (If they wanna go the route of a huge body) Nix.....Maybe, just maybe, I even consider Mosely, yes that's right Stinger, I said it.
Cross Purifoy off the list, he is in trouble with the Po-Po.
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first, i want to qualify that i do not watch much college ball anymore and i am not basing any decision on how the players actually performed, just on what is written in this article. that said... the most important and hard to fill position in the group from that article to me is hands down cornerback. that leads me to take a lightning fast 6-0' CB justin glbert over any other player in that list. we have not had a #1 shutdown, man-on-man CB in chicago since i can remember and it has hurt us for decades. the need is there especially in today's pass oriented NFL. peanut is all but done and even then he was never a #1 CB in my opinion. we need REAL talent to fill this position and not some flyer on a guy in later rounds. we will probably not be picking this high again for sometime and the talent requirements at that position demands you draft one high in the first for your BEST chance at finding gold. there is absolutely no possible way i would take any kind of safety OR a defensive tackle over a corner of that caliber.
I agree a shutdown corner is gold, but we also don't know if they will turn gold or into coal. It will be a tough decision if Donald is also available.
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I edited my last post to expand a bit... I think the "too short" myth has been busted the last few years. Take a look at the DT sack leaders the last few years 2013- Jason Hatcher(6'6") 11, Kyle Williams(6'1") 10.5, Jurrell Casey(6'1") 10.5 2012- Geno Atkins(6'1") 12 2011- Geno Atkins 7.5 (yes that lead the league) That's 3 different guys that have ranked in the top 2 among sacks by a DT the last 3 years. I really think teams might have to "reassess" the whole "too small" label, and think about the leverage these smaller guys create. It's also worth throwing out there again that Warren Sapp was only 6'2" and he is one of the best to play the position.
You know I was only kidding, I am number 2 on the Aaron Donald bandwagon. I just love the responses saying he is too small and he cannot play the run, yet he had 66 stops behind the line of scrimmage, meaning he is blowing by the dlineman and destroying the RB.
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It's not that shocking to me to be honest. I've heard another guy call him the #3 prospect behind Clowney and Robinson which might be a little more realistic.
But...he's too short
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Vernon Davis is also 6'-3" 250 lbs, ran a 4.4 forty, and has a beast physique. That takes years of sculpting, Thomas Jones was probably the last player the Bears had that any type of physique.
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I now hate McClellin and hope he actually gets cut. How does a professiolbs athlete have the same build as me? Ridiculous for a guy who has the money, motivation, and need to do nothing but learn a Playbook and look like a brick shithouse.
The old proverb...a picture is worth a thousand words but does not tell the whole story. Yes, he looks like a 5'9 skinny kid. He cut 10 lbs, but looks lean/skinny. His offseason program mainly cut bodyfat by the looks. Have to remember he is still 6-3, 250 and the picture doesnt give you that. That picture tells me 5'9 200.
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great tagline
Maybe, just maybe McClellin excels at this transition. I can see Shea and Bostic filling the SLB/MLB and Greene developing into a WLB , Greene was compared to Briggs coming out of the draft. If Bostic can grasp the MLB, he has leadership qualities. It's a lot to hope for, but with proper coaching, why can't it be done?
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Again I should mention that I'm a ND hater, but still, I'm intrigued a bit by Tommy Rees as a 6R/UDFA. He went to high school with my cousin and he told me I just had to come out and see some of his games. Rees was a straight up monster.
He's got the tools, and I think Trestman might be the guy to put those tools into play.
Wasn't he dicked around a bit at ND?
Rees was replaced by Everett Golson who was more of a dual threat. Also, Rees threw some costly INTs that the fans didn't forget. But he does hold the completion record at ND. Maybe they are thinking UDFAs, with the QBs they brought in.
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I'd be cool with it, Joyner, while small, is exactly the type of guy I want at FS. A guy who has corner experience who should really help on the back end and has the ability to drop down and cover slot WRs.
If he doesn't work out at FS then you try him at nickle the following year with McGill(who I like) moving into Peanuts spot.
He plays a lot bigger than his size suggests, reminds me a bit of Bob Sanders, same size, former Defensive PoY.
2R might be a bit of a reach though.
I of course love the Donald pick.
I posted a mock on another board with the Bears taking Donald, Ward or Bucannon, then Joyner rd 3. He would make a perfect nickle that can be a CB/S/OLB type rover. I then followed taking Brooks rd 4, wishful thinking lol. Our backfield would be sick with a front of Donald, Allen, Houston, and Ratliff.
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I really think the Bears are high on Wilson, and I think it will be for good reason. I haven't heard about how much he's bulked up, but I'm sure he has down there with Marshall and company.
Hixon is another guy in the same mold as E. Bennett. Nothing flashy but he has a reliable set of hands.
I wouldn't absolutely hate to see them grab a guy in the 5th or 6th round, but in the 3-4? ya no thanks. Bears need to take advantage of the defensive depth in the 1st 4 rounds IMO. QB/RB/TE are bigger "needs".
I will agree SCS, WR is not the biggest need. If the bpa in rd4 is a WR and he is rated much higher than another position of need, then I can see the pick. This team will not fill all the holes in one offseason.
This year I'd like them to find starters at DT, S. A#2 RB and CB are high on my list. QB to groom as a backup should be a thought. Then possible TE, Cody Lyerla could be a steal. The first two picks have to be hits.
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Your spot on, it takes two years and go with the BPA and fix the rest of the spots next year.
Looking at the 2015 draft class, it looks like it could be a healthy one for CB. I don't see much size over 6'-1", so maybe we take a flyer on one of the bigger ones this year.
1- Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon
2- PJ Williams CB FSU
3- Trae Williams CB MSU
4- Jalen Collins CB LSU
5- Alex Carter CB Stanford
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Yeah, I'd actually prefer a FS/DT/DT start since I think there is a lot more depth at DT than FS. This would outstanding: 1. HHCD, FS, Alabama 2. Tuitt, DT, Notre Dame 3. Johnson, DT, LSU
plan a:
1-Donald DT
2-Tuitt DT
3-Terrence Brooks S
Plan b:
1-HHCD FS
2 Tuitt DT
3. A Johnson DT
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To me the 2nd DT pick would have to be BPA, and I doubt a DT is BPA at that point. If we draft a DT in the first, our need for DT becomes the 4th-7th need on the team at that point behind S, CB, LB, and possibly TE, OL, QB. Now I can see us taking another DT in the 1st or 2nd next year, but I highly doubt we go that route in one draft and completely pass on S or CB in the first 2 rounds.
One thing I don't understand is how Tuitt is considered a second round player. Compare his game numbers and combine results with any of the other prospects and he is a top 3 or 4 DT. Early mocks had him in the top half on draft boards too. Even when Nix was lost for most of the season, Tuitt still played well despite being the target on the line. If he makes it to round two, Emery better get on the phone.
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I suspect you say those things about any recruit, but I was just going by things Ive read.
Not at all, only ones I take some liking to. I have him flagged bc Trestman or Emery mentioned something about the ideal QB is 6'5". This kid is 6'6" and would need a lot of work, so I wouldn't take him with our first 5 picks.
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The #1 thing Trestman will look at is accuracy and decision making, he doesnt fit that.
His accuracy is because of bad footwork, that can be worked on. His quickness and decision making can improve with condfidence. He is very raw because he was recruited as a TE in college. Didn't play the position until 2010. I think he is perfect to groom. He is also durable and played 40 straight games.
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For a late round talent whose weaknesses seem like a perfect fit for Trestman's coaching strengths consider Logan Thomas. Lots of upside and the base talent, size, arm strength, accuracy when mechanics are right, is there to succeed in the NFL. For as much attention as we've given Jordan Lynch I have to think Thomas is also on our radar.
http://draftbreakdown.com/the-case-for-logan-thomas/
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players...93/logan-thomas
Inconsistent footwork and mechanics are a big reason for his erratic passing, struggling to reset his lower body when moved from his spot. Needs to stay balanced through his delivery. Suspect field vision and questionable passing instincts. Needs to speed up his eyes use and decipher his reads quicker.
He was a QB I looked into some since he matched up with some criteria that fit Trestman.
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Here is my BEARS, Trade up early and then trade back later to get more picks in the Draft: Obviously its not very realistic but was a very fun exercise nonetheless. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/premium/draft.php?d=sgznsb 5 DE JADEVEON CLOWNEY 19 S HA HA CLINTON-DIX 51 DT RA'SHEDE HAGEMAN 72 CB KEITH MCGILL 90 ILB JORDAN ZUMWALT 122 QB A.J. MCCARRON 148 DT KELCY QUARLES 156 S JONATHAN DOWLING 166 ILB MAX BULLOUGH 183 TE COLT LYERLA 191 TE MARCEL JENSEN 237 WR T.J. JONES
Umm, yeah. Looks like we traded our future first round picks for the next 3 years, but I'd take those guys.
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No surprise there.
I liked it better as an "event" because one of our group was a Vikings fan and there were 2 years in a row when they busted on getting their first pick up to the podium in time. You just can't buy that kind of entertainment! I miss Tice...I do miss the all day affair and then waking up on Sunday to finish out a few more rounds. What was also fun was the chat room seemed to be full almost the entire time. Now it's usually just a few minutes before the selection and then gone.
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RB is absolutely a need, maybe not with the top 3 draft picks, but Forte is getting up there in mileage and the Bears do not currently have a solid #2 option.
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Add Calvin Pryor S to the list, the Bears brought him into Halas for a private workout.
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Ya, after Trestman talked about blocking being important in the #2 RB role them working out the tiny DAT is a little puzzling. Maybe they were seeing how he holds up in pass blocking...MJD is a smaller back but he's real good at pass blocking, so I suppose it would be possible.
I don't really worry about the return game. Ford looked like a good returner in preseason, Chris Williams is highly intriguing, and Hixon has been above average....One of those guys should be able to step up.
Throw Bellamy in the mix too. I'd rather draft Charles Sims RB to be #2.
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The picked up Josh Bellamy off waivers from the Redskins. A WR and Im not sure but think is a LS
He is a returner/gunner. Weems may be released soon. He also came up through KC, so Emery has ties.
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#Bears agree to terms on 1 yr deal with TE Matthew Mulligan. He's primarily a blocking tight end and has ample experience. Per Brad Biggs
Emery is still filling the cupboard.
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Phil/Mark, I was joking...
McClellin gets cut
in Bearstalk
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I was one that thought it would be crazy for Shea to play LB, only bc he is a 3-4 OLB. I am now backing off that thought because he resembles a young Urlacher, with a smaller neck. If he and the coaches put in the work, he just might be something.
Also, for all the talk about drafting the LB Barr, that would be making the same mistake all over again. Unless we do become a 3-4 base, it makes no sense.