ASHKUM BEAR
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Next years draft class is loaded at the QB position. Even if the Bears are around 20, I still think they have they could grab a QB who could be just as good as the top 2 this year.
Next year you have Connor Cook, Cardale Jones, Christian Hackenburg, and Dak Prescott who are all being talked about as 1R draft picks. Then there's Jon Goff and Cody Kessler, who I think are gonna work their way into 1R consideration.
Then you have a ton of other guys like Gunner Kiel, Patrick Towles, and Kevin Hogan who could work their way up but are more likely 2-3R picks.
I LOVE next years QB class, esp. in comparison to this years. Get your stud at 7 this year, then grab one of these guys next year.
My exact thoughts. Next years class will have 10-15 prospects. We can double up like Washington did if we choose. Bring in talent this draft like a WR and defensive studs. Next draft bring in the QB and take OT rd 2 if we don't land one this draft.
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Coleman doesn't appear to be a 1st Rd prospect. I watched the game against Ohio State and he had little help but the few times he got a crease he was grabbing huge chunks of yards, or long TDs. I'd love to have that kind of speed out of the backfield but I'd hate using a 2nd Rd pick to get it when we need so much help up front on either line. Plus he doesn't have a ton of elusiveness in short areas.
Assuming we'll use two picks to shore up Oline and RB I'll just say that for me a 2nd Rd OG + 4th-6th RD RB is greater than 2nd Rd RB + 4th-6th Rd OG.
With Long and Slaussen at Guard and Ducasse, Groy, and Ola as back ups, do you really think G is a need. I think if they draft Oline, OT and C are bigger needs. Now if they do move Long outside, I see the reasoning.
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You have to go big on QB, or go low and wish for the best. Someone like Petty is just wasting a pick.
Mariotta may turn out to be a waste, but I'm sure we all hope the bears won't be drafting this low again. It's their once chance to get someone with that much potential. I really hope they try to make a play to get him.
I hope they don't invest more picks on either of these QBs. If one falls to 7, so be it. They will have a shot at a QB next draft. Save your draft picks to bring in youth.
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Well watch this...
Watching espn draft academy. Guess who's on it? Before the commercial, he was quoted as saying how he wants to prove that he is more than a one trick pony. I've never seen tape on him, so I take your word and I'll watch his spot on this show. A RB that intrigues me is John Crockett NDSU, 6' 217 catches fluid and runs well.
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Jason,
It is amazing how many combinations you can come up with that are realistic. At this point I just want to see Safety, WR, and OL drafted early, and then use the remaining picks to improve at DL, ILB, and CB. I don't think we need another RB with Forte, Rodgers, and Carey on the roster. I would rather pick one in the first 3 rounds next year. I would also do the same with QB, and possibly take one in the first round next year.
Safety almost eliminates itself with the available talent. Wherever we draft one, they will be a project imo. Looks like WR a d OT. But what if Cooper and White are both gone?
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Sorry ashkum, you are definitely wrong about him being inconsistent tracking the ball... smith us the best in this draft at that.. I didn't want to pick him on my suggestion for fear of being a homer since I am a huge buckeye fan, but smith is unlike anyone I've seen at tracking the ball in the air.. he will be greatly missed next yr.. all the three qbs ever had to do was throw it up and smith would come down with it...he is elite at that..
That is from cbs sports draft profiles, not my assessment. I lean on that site for player breakdowns.
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I tried to stay away from OT in the first, since that was a negative to many in previous threads. Having said that, what are the objections with this draft? 2015 MOCK DRAFT 4.0 1.20- Malcom Brown, DT, Texas 2.39- Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State 2.52- Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke 3-David Cobb, RB, Minnesota 4-Kurtis Drummond, FS, Mich. St. 5-Za'Darius Smith, OLB, Kentucky 6-Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada Is this a draft everyone could live with? Who has specific objections?
I could not live with that...
. I don't like what I've read on Devin Smith WR and do we really need another project QB? They really do not turn out unless you put in time and effort. I don't think we ever made one of our QB picks a priority to develop. Devin Smith has the speed to get separation fast vertically, but is also inconsistent at tracking the ball. His routes are unproven. His speed is mainly straight-line speed and his lean frame is nearly maxed out.
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I think, whatever point we address wr, if will have to be for a potential starter, of which you aint getting in the 6th. If not with the first , no later than 3rd.
I think you could be right with the players in the front end of the draft.
Im not sure any WR other than a first RDer will be able to be counted on to produce as a #2 year one. I just have a bad feeling the two WRs will be gone. I dont see Ray going before 7 and its a toss up between Mariota or a WR to the Jets.
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The draft goes:
1. Winston
2. Williams
3. Fowler
4. White
5. Beasley
6. Ray
Mariota is there at 7 and Chip Kelly comes calling. He offers his 1st (20), his 2nd (52), and something next year to move up. Pace happily accepts.
1.20- Landon Collins, S, Alabama
2.39- Eddie Goldman, NT, FSU
2.52- Bernardrick McKinney, ILB, MSU
3-Hronis Grassu, C, Oregon
4-Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.
5-Shaquille Mason, OG, GT
6-Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke
7-Deshazor Everett, CB, TX A&M
Perfect. The future first is the key if we ever want to end the Cutler era. Collins would be huge and the additions of a starting NT, C, ILB. I have a feeling Mariota will be there at 7 and White Cooper Beasley will be gone. The Bears need to promote Mariota. Make a team bite on a trade for once that goes in our favor.
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I would love for him to fall to us and then Cleveland gets stupid and gives up 12 and 19 to get him (but that would be crazy).
Exactly what I was trying to point out earlier. Pace is feeding nibblers making it look like the Bears are trying to get a Cutler for Mariota deal done with Tennessee. When Mariota falls to pick 7, which I think will happen teams will think we are getting the guy we wanted. If they inquire about a trade, they will know they have to go big.
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With the 26th pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State. The Dallas Cowboys (ASHKUM BEAR) are now on the clock....
With the 27th pick of the 2015 NFL draft Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys select CB Kevin Johnson Wake Forest
The Denver Broncos (Stinger) are up with the 28th pick.....
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Hub said it best in his article today regarding this. His conclusion was the Bears are bidding up his price if he does some how drop to 7. They are sayin they want him and are taking him if he is there and if any other team wants him, they better be prepared to have a serious offer.
Doesn't that make sense? No team will take on Cutlers contract the way it is. The Bears will not be giving up future firsts for a project QB. The way it is going to fall is Cooper and White will go before our pick and Mariota will be there. The Bears will trade down.
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With the 17th pick, the San Diego Chargers select: OLB Shane Ray Mizzu. They considered RB, OT, and DT. KC is on the clock....
With the 18th pick, the KC Chiefs select: Erik Flowers OLT Miami
KC values line play, they are eyeing WR Strong but finding a solid LT is a higher priority.
Cleveland Browns are on the clock...
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Wow. This guy is inside my head. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-draft-nee...iNVhg4AVTUnnIlQ I don't like it all, but I agree with the sentiments about which positions are needed.
I like the picks if they were taken one round later. OT Cedric Ogbuehi was a top OT candidate until his injury, I would take the flier on him in RD3. RD2, we need to find a defensive starter in CB/S/Dline/ or ILB.
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I completely disagree. Just because we sign a bunch of bad LBer's doesn't mean there is less of a need. The only sure LB we have on the roster that is even guaranteed a spot for next year is McPhee. And he's considered a good but not great LB. Yes I'd be surprised if we cut Willie Young, Bostic, or Jared Allen, but I think all 3 are a possibility.
We still have a need with the front 3. If we go LB in round #1, IMO we move Houston to DE.
Pace wants to build through the draft. That means it's not just about this year, but the future. Fox stated the most important thing for a defense is to get to the QB. Despite all of our additions, we still don't have that. If a LB is available that we feel will be able to get to the QB consistently. why would we hesitate.
On a side note, we appear to be going towards a run first offense which means we need a good defense. Our defense is horrible and we haven't tried to run the ball for two years. Despite it possibly being best player available, can someone explain to me why we would draft a WR at #7?
Only because of the bpa mentality. If Fowler and Beasley are gone, id be happy with White or Cooper. Ray and Gregory are in the next tier. I think either Cooper or White would be great additions, even though I am a offensive line and beast rb guy.
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The guy I like the most is Danny Shelton, but we know a NT rarely goes top 10. After that is Amari Cooper, I think he would become the go to guy. Third is Kevin White, I see him as Andre Johnson #2.
Too bad we didn't have #7 in the 2016 draft, as I see better QBs, LOT, and S' s in that draft. We may hit a choice of a QB falling at #7. Would the Bears draft one? Can we trade down? Maybe we take a pass rusher then?