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Reading Lance's response to his signing he seems totally fine and happy with the deal he got. He explained that Rosenass told him it was a good deal and he should take it so he did....
He knew he could have tested the waters in the market, but he chose to sign on the 2nd day...he knew what he was getting himself into
Briggs didn't have much choice left. Teams said to have been interest were Tampa Bay who have Derek Brooks, Cato June, Quincy Black, Jerimiah Trotter, plus about 4 others at LB, not an option here IMO. New Orleans was also interested, but were spending big cash on Vilma, McCray, Gay, Stecker, Henderson. Washington was never really in the mix IMO, b/c they really don't have the cap space at the moment.
Briggs realized he better sign quckly with the Bears before they brought the Atlanta FA in and before they started lowering the offer.
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Going by #1 need, I'd say Clady. I'd truly think about McFadden/Mendenhall really hard though.
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judging by that list the only two receivers I would want are Hackett and/or Booker, and Jacob Bell for LG.
JA-Better call Bell's agent soon.......
Rams | J. Bell to visit Monday
Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:42:37 -0800
Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports free-agent OG Jacob Bell (Titans) is scheduled to visit the St. Louis Rams Monday, March 3.
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It's great to see Briggs back, even though I was prepared to see him leave. So, what's next JA? The papers say your working on our own players to extend contracts, but shouldn't you be looking at adding an outside piece here or there? Or, are you trying to extend our own (Harris, Url, Hester, Anderson) to gauge what there mindsets for $$ is so you know where our cap space will be for the next couple of years. Those guys are players we want for sure to be around long term and if we can get them extended now, the better. If extensions cannot be worked out, at least we know what were up against next time at the contract table.
Hopefully in the next week or two, we can find a O-lineman and a WR to add to our team. The WR pool is pretty deep compared to the OG pool. I hope we can land Jacob Bell to fill LG and then add DJ Hackett/J. McCariens and Patten/Booker.
WR's {Moose=35yrs old}
Randy Moss-31 will command a lot of $$ and would prefer a contender w/ a QB to get him the ball
Bryant Johnson-27 set to meet Buf - Bears would put him at Moose's spot
DJ Hackett-27 Could replace BB
Javon Walker-29 -Once a proven #1, suffered some bad knee injuries and not sure about character
Marty Booker-32- Once a beloved Bear. Would bring vet leadership and replace Moose
David Patten-34- Solid vet, produces every where he goes
Drew Carter-27- Has speed, but never proved much when given the opportunity when S.Smith was out
Brandon Lloyd-27- A Turner guy at UofI, flopped at Was and showed gator arms
Eric Moulds-35-A solid vet who still can produce
Eddie Kennison-35
Sammie Parker-27
David Givens-28-A Domer who has been solid up until Tenn.
Justin McCariens-29-A NIU grad who'd I love to see in a Bear uni. Showed glances of being a solid WR
Keenan McCardell-38-A solid vet who seems to always have a knack at making the catch
Peerless Price-31
Carlyle Holliday-26-Another Domer that can also throw the pass on a trick play
Tim Dwight-33-a Senoir Welker anyone?
Mike Williams-24 USC player many wanted instead of Benson, This is almost as bad a Ryan Leaf
OG- Not many Olineman talent left so I'd hope JA would make this a higher priority.
Jacob Bell-27 Would still cost a lot of dough, but the Bears need to make the Oline their strengh
Jake Scott-27 Looked solid at Indy, but many say it's the system.
Womack - 29 A solid G at Seattle
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I could be wrong, however a huge reason why the bears are constantly ridiculed by the media and scrutinized by it's fans are for the obvious reasons. Look at the stupid decisions we've made. Benson for one, when drafted, was everyone thinking WTF!, then you have enis, then you have columbo, then you have salaam, haynes, then you have rex, then you have terrell, then you have the qb carousel with kordell, miller, mathews, krenzel, burris,greise,orton,rex,hutch, and I know I'm missing quite a few. Not only is this brought on by their own stupidity, but well deserved. For all the t. harris's and d. hesters we pluck from the football gods, it doesn't make a darn bit of good when you run into the most important position on the team blindfolded, deaf, with both fists swinging. The qb position this team has filled numerous times with pathetic players is down right sad. When you combine that with the fact that we continue to take our first rd draft picks and pick a bust (except for tommie and url.) you have to expect a lashing from the people who pay money to wear the team apparel and go to the games. It's human nature to feel like you've put so much into something ,and that something isn't even trying to give back to you. I for one hope that jerry either pulls his head from his butt when on the clock for the 14th pick and makes a good one, or just trades it away for a proven talent. Why select a benson when you could have gotten a vilma, or someone else who was on the trading block? Everyone wants to take a tackle with the 14th pick, screw that. Last time I checked robert gallery wasn't doing all that great for the raiders. I say we take a player that is a can't miss, and if there isn't a player still there at 14 who's a can't miss you make a trade for someone. I personally would like mendenhall. Benson was a risk because he was taken at 4 and technically we didn't need him. Mendenhall taken at 14 is a lot safer, not to mention if he becomes a bust we can say we were trying to fill a position of need unlike the benson situation. I for one would much rather sign proven o-line talent via fa like olivea and and starks than take a chance on a rook and end up with a columbo.
Starks was franchised by Pitt, and Olevia ended up on the Charger bench and is only a RT. The only way I would think about Mendenhall is if we know we can get a potential OLT in the draft b/c there are no OLT availble in FA. Since this is a deep draft for RB's, I think we will wait until the 3 or 4 round. Before we invest in QB's, RB's, WR's, IMO we need to have a young strong Oline.
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What a tool. Step up and be a man. I am glad he is gone.
Peace
Moose is truly a bus driver. If he was smart, he would keep his pie hole shut unless he wanted to say good things about the organization and city. By running his mouth, he is hurting his chances at returning to the city as a possible media man with Comcast. He seemed to spend more time on TV/Radio shows than he ever spent on becoming a better player.
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I'll go ahead and agree. I sure as hell do not want to invest big dollars and years in a mediocre talent. Lets take a look at a Booker, Bruce, Patten type of vet and live with Hester, Bradley, Clark and Olsen as the pass receiving threats as well as Wolfe on the screens.
I also have Patten as a target. Why not? He's a vet, should cost less, and still is productive.
I have a feeling, Berrian will sign elsewhere and Hester could easily fill his role for the deep man. I'm not saying Hester will immediately become a #1 in the league, but he will be on plenty of espn highlights catching the hail mary's. Those deep plays is what gave Berrian a name 2 years ago and also made Grossman look like the Good Rex.
I also hope we show plenty of interest in Bryant Johnson and Marty Booker. It would be nice to see Book be able to retire here and Johnson could become a true #1 if given the chance.
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http://www.nfl.com/players/shaneolivea/profile?id=OLI195248
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/charg...052-mccree.html
only 26 and needs to prove himself.
Olivea is a RT, could be worth a look, but I think we already have our RT (Tait)
I think we should really look at bringing in FB Lorenzo Neal who was also released.
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If we do not go the best OT with our first round pick, we are the dumbest franchise in the history of the world.
I hear ya, I want OLT myself. This was just a theory on what the Bears might be thinking.
I laugh when you guys say QB/RB/WR with the first rounder.
I personally want OLT also. This was only a theory (a thought on what if) if the Bears do "white flag" the season. In that case, a franchise QB may be their priority
WE NEED TO DRAFT LINEMEN!!!!!!!!!
Amen
If we dont, then I dont care what QB and/or RB we have, we will not be good offensively.
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Well that's your first mistake right there: listening to the Score.
This is not what I want, but just a theory b/c word on the street....the Bears aren't going after BIG names. It was said on the score, but here is a link (Tribune) Chicago Tribune
I thought it was the Score saying that they aren't pursuing free agents and not Angelo. As far as I know, Angelo hasn't said squat beyond wanting to sign our own guys.
What I meant here was, in previous years the rumor was we are going after big names, and we sign Tait & Moose. Then the rumor was we are not pursuing any big FA's like in 07 and our biggest move was the Arch trade. I should have used the rumors, Angelo hasn't said anything publicly, but the rumors have been pretty close.
If we lose out on Briggs and Berrian, I would think that we would pursue some FAs. Also, the comp picks would be in 2009.
I didn't say we wouldn't pursue any FA's at all, just not the BIG names (Faneca). And your right I meant 2009.
I seriously doubt we're taking a QB OR RB in rd 1 and I seriously doubt Angelo even considers a trade up. If neither Grossman nor Orton step up and show that they deserve to be the future QB this year, they will take one early next year with Orton as starter next year. I'm pretty sure the front office blames the Oline for the lack of production at RB last year and any new RB will either be drafted in a later round, or be a 2nd tier free agent. There's just no reason to invest in the position so highly when it was our Oline letting our RBs get hit in the backfield last year.
If the Bears had higher regards for Grossman or Orton, they would have signed them longer. The one year deals assure the Bears have a starter for this year and shows we will be looking for a QB pretty high. Orton may be capable, but he'll never bring anything special to the QB position, so I see it as we draft a future QB this year and let him compete next with Kyle.
As for RB, I really don't want to see us picking one until the third or later, but you never know now that Benson could be hurt longer than expected.
I don't think Harris is going to get a new deal. He appears to want money based on how well he plays in the first half of a season which I don't think Angelo will cave to. I see him franchised next year. I don't see Urlacher getting a new deal unless Briggs walks. If Briggs walks, we can afford it. Hester would be nuts to sign a new deal now. He's worth more after next season if he can prove to be a threat at WR. Gould's extension isn't going to cost that much. We will still have plenty of cap space.
My theory is that Briggs walks, so we would want to extend Urlacher and try for Hester. As for Harris, I hope his motivation isn't purely money and being the highest paid defensive player b/c he is not even the best defensive player on the Bears. If he stays healthy and productive consistantly then I can see it but he hasn't done that yet. Gould won't cost much, but sign him now before Minny screws us on another kicker making us pay more than we planned(Edinger).
That's not Angelo's plan unless he gets Briggs and Berrian both signed. Even then, I expect some 2nd tier FA signings.
LOL I find it funny that you say that Angelo's gonna stand pat with the guys on our roster, but have us signing 3 FAs there. Also, forget the trades.
Once again, I said BIG FA names, not that he won't sign any FA's. As for the trades, if we dont' draft OLT with our first and take a QB, don't be surprised if we don't trade up if a Albert or Baker are in reach.
This was just a theory. Like I said "this is not what I want to see", but after hearing the rumor that we will not be pursuing BIG name FA, I was wondering why and thought maybe we are "white flagging" it this year.
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It's been said on the radio 670 the Score that the Bears are not pursuing any big name free agents. This thought angers me b/c IMO we are still close to being a playoff/superbowl contender team. So remembering the Bears recent history with Angelo saying we will be active in FA or not, he is usually honest about which way there going. With that said my conclusion is:
1. We lose Briggs and Berrian in FA without signing significant FA contracts we gain possibly two 3rd round compensation picks in 2008.
2. Our draft board is: RD1=Brohm QB/Mendenhall RB both positions need a new franchise player
- I look for the Bears to trade up to the lower 1st round to grab another top need QB/RB/OLT/WR if another targeted player is available.
-As much as I'd love Mendenhall, getting a top QB should be a higher priority
3. We extend the rest of our guys that we want around for the next 2-4 years (Harris, Urlacher,Hester,Gould, etc)
4. We cross our fingers that the guys we have for 2008 can carry us again into the playoffs, but the plan is to be rebuilt for 2009.
This is not what I want to see, but a theory to why we will not go after any big name FA's (Faneca,Turner, etc)
Our 2008 mock draft
1a. Brohm QB
1b. Baker OT
2 . traded
3a. traded
3b. Jordy Nelson WR
4 . K. Smith RB
5. traded
6. traded
7. Caleb Campbell SS Army
FA's brought in: David Patton WR, Justin Smiley G, C.C. Brown SS
2009 mock
1. Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia, Michael Oher OLT
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Does anyone have an idea what our cap space is like now? With Rex, Des, A.Brown signed and Orton, Berrian(hopefully) soon to follow we can't have an awful lot left for a big FA signing like Faneca/Bell/Scott(OG's). The rookie pool will also cost about 5 million.
LT or NFO please help
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I'll put out the Bears mock:
Round Pick Position/school
1) Chris Williams OT/Vanderbilt
2) Limas Sweed WR/Texas
3a) Andre Woodson QB/Kentucky
3b) Kevin Smith RB/Central Florida
4) DJ Hall WR/Alabama
5) Best available Guard
6) Best available OLB
7) Best available Player
Analysis: Williams is a no brainer, the best available OT at the when we pick. Sweed will fall to us in the second because of injury concerns and his 40 time. Woodson is a no brainer in the 3rd. I don't care that he has a hitch in his delivery, he is a gamer and played for a crappy school in the best confrence in college football, and threw 40 TDs. You might think that drafting two WR in the first 4 rounds is a bad idea, but when you are faced with the crappy players that we have when Berrian walks, you make sure that doesn't happen again. I think that Sweed and Hall could both be starting WRs in the NFL.
I would love if the Bears ended up with this draft. We would probably look for a SS somewhere in RD's 4 or 5.
As for keeping 4 RB's on the roster, I'd think that if we drafted a stud like Kevin Smith, we'd move Peterson to full duty special teams like Ayenbenejo was.
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We all read mocks and criticize the so called pros who post them. Here's a chance to showcase your thoughts on who teams will draft. I'd like to see your opinions on how the draft will pan out.
Below is my RD1 mock, followed by the Bears complete draft.
Round 1
1 Miami-----------Matt Ryan QB BC
2 St. Louis--------Glen Dorsey DT LSU
3 Atlanta----------Chris Long DE Virg
4 Oakland--------Sedrick Ellis DT USC
5 Kansas City----Jake Long OT Mich
6 New York Jets--Vernon Golhston DE Ohio St
7 New England---Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
8 Baltimore------Mike Jenkins CB S Flor
9 Cincinnatti-----Darrin McFadden RB Ok
10 New Orleans--Kenny Phillips FS Miami
11 Buffalo--------Keith Rivers OLB USC
12 Denver--------Ryan Clady OT Boise St
13 Carolina-------Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois
14 Chicago--------Jeff Otah OT Pitt
15 Detroit---------Brian Brohm QB LSU
16 Arizona--------Chris Williams OT Vand
17 Minnesota-----DeShaun Jackson WR Cal
18 Houston-------Jonathan Stewart RB Org
19 Philedelphia---Derek Harvey DE Florida
20 Tampa Bay---Aqib Talib CB Kansas
21 Washington --Calias Cambell DE Miami
22 Dallas--------Felix Jones RB Ark
23 Pittsburgh---Brandon Albert OG Virg
24 Tennessee---Limus Sweed WR Texas
25 Seattle-------Fred Davis TE USC
26 Jacksonville--Early Doucet WR LSU
27 San Diego---Dan Connor LB Penn St
28 Dallas-------James Hardy WR Indiana
29 San Fransisco--Quentin Groves DE Auburn
30 Green Bay----Dominque Rogers-Comartie CB Tenn St
31 New England---Forfieted SPYGATE
32 New York Giants--Antoine Cason CB Arz
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Chicago Draft:
1 Jeff Otah OT Pitt
2 Malcolm Kelly WR Ok (Big target w/ speed & hands to replace Moose)
3 Ray Rice RB Rutgers (Chad Henne's available but we pass w/ Griese still on team)
3 Craig Steltz SS LSU
4 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii (Falcolns take Flacco w/ their high 2nd)
5 Jordan Dizon LB Col
6 Paul Hubbard WR Wis
7 Jordan Grimes OG Purdue
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I'm glad to see the Bears are close to getting Grossman back. I think they gave up on him to early last year. He should have at least gotten a chance against Detroit before pulling the plug. If Grossman re-signs, I still hope to see the Bears draft a QB on day 1. Hopefully we can get Flacco, preferably with the later 2nd.
Grossman + (Tait+Garza+Kreutz+Faneca+Otah) = Eli Manning. Not a great comparison, but my point is Manning looked much improved when he had time in the pocket and WR's that were catching everything close. Give Rex a little more time w/o pressure and have his WR's make catches like the NYG's and the tunes will change.
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Sarcasm?
Something tells me that they'll go OL, WR, OL, S with our first 4 picks now. We'll wait to draft a QB until next year since Rex's contract is 2 years.
My 2-cents
Griese will not be a Bear at the start of the season. First off, the word on the street is the Philly game Griese really did orchastate the final drive and him taking credit offended Turner. Second, Griese was upset at the Bears brass when he was demoted. Griese said publicly that he was healthy enough to play, but they gave the reins back to Rex.
JA will say that they will bring back Grossman, Griese and Orton, but this is a smoke screen. They don't want another team to leap frog them to grab Flacco/Henne and they don't want to decrease trade value they may get out of Griese.
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I take that back- this is my last mock until a week before the draft (I just couldn't resist
)Mock
1. Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
2. Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
3. Oneil Cousins, OT, UTEP
4. Eric Young, OG, Tennessee
5. DJ Parker, S, Virginia Tech
6. Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
7. Richard Clebert, DT, South Florida
8. Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech
Offseason
Sign Faneca (G, Steelers)- 5 years, $40 million
Sign David Stewart (T, Titans)- 4 years, $20 million...28 years old
Sign Berrian- 5 years, $28 million
Cut Moose, Miller, Arch
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Here is the Draft Tek Mock this week, I like this site!
1. Jeff Otah OLT Pit
2. Devin Thomas WR Mich ST
3. Ray Rice RB Rutgers
3. Joe Flacco QB Del
4. Tom Zbikowski SS Notre Dame
5. Chilo Rachal OG USC
6. Paul Hubbard WR Wis
7. James McClinton DT Kansas
Free Agency:
Sign Berrian, Ayebandejo, Harris:
Sign Faneca, Booker and Hamlin
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QB Grossman, Orton, Flacco
RB Benson, Peterson, Wolfe, Choice
FB G Jones, Polite
WR Berrian ,Hass
WR Moose, Bradley
WR Hester, Davis
TE Olson, Gilmore
TE Clark
OLT Clady, St. Clair
LG Faneca, Garza
C Kreutz, Beekman
RG Brown, Oakley
RT Tait,
DE Ogunuleye, Anderson
DT Harris, Adams
DT Dvorecek, Laws
DE Brown, Bauzin
OLB Williams, Okwo
MLB Urlacher, Wilson
OLB Hillenmeyer, Ayanbadejo
CB Tillman, McBride
CB Vasher, Graham
FS Manning, Payne
SS Brown, McGowan
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I'm tired of being bashed for this. I just think it'll make our team better as a whole then to keep him around. That's all.
Bringing up a Hester trade is like bringing up a Jordan trade. It's gonna stir up a hornets nest. Chicago finally has another star they can see on National TV (commercials-espn highlights). Why not offer Hester to Cle straight up for Anderson-Cleveland can then put Hester and Cribbs back on all kicks (that would be sick).
I personally wouldn't trade Hester for Anderson or for picks. I believe if we can fix our line and make it the strength of the offense, the players we have can get the job done.
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http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php
I'd be happy with this draft if it started out this way.
1-14 Chris Williams OT Vandy
Jeff Otah is still on the board, so as long as we get the best OLT, I'm happy
2 -44 Andre' Woodson QB Kentucky
Great leader, high completion percentage, a winner>work on quicker progressions and mechanics
3-75 Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
I could pass on a DT, but Laws is awesome and who knows what Tommie's future with the Bears will be
3-90 Tashard Choice RB Georgia-Tech
Choices stock rose after the senior bowl, has a good combo of size/speed. Could be the 4th best back in the draft
4-106 Andre Caldwell WR Florida
At 6' 207, Caldwell can bring the speed 4.36 40 time.
5 Best SS available
6 Best player available
7 BPA
Free Agent priority:
Alan Faneca G Pit - age 31, will see his down side in 2-3 years, but he's at the top right now
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Jacob Bell G Ten - age 27, may be a better option than Faneca b/c of his age
Bryant Johnson WR Arz- age 27, A vet who IMO is looking for a new team so he can shine. He sat behind Boldin/Fitzgerald and would like to go to a team to catch some of the spotlight.
and
David Patten WR NO - age 34, an old vet who can still get it done and can come in and help coach some of the young WR's.
Greg Jones FB Jaz - age 27, Jones is a great blocking TE and has helped Jax become one of the top running teams in the NFL.
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What would your top 5-10 war room list look like?
1-Jake Long OT Mich
2-Ryan Clady OT Boise St.
3-Darren McFadden RB Ark
4-Kenny Phillips SS Miami
5-Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh
6-Sam Baker OT USC
7-Michael Oher OT Ole Miss
8-Brian Brohm QB Lou
9-Chris Long DE Virg
10-Matt Ryan QB BC
That would be my order, crossing the guys off as they were selected and grabbing the top guy off the list. I know guys like Chris Long and Matt Ryan will be gone before, but this would be my order is I were GM.
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The list is a list of the top senior OL. Clady is an underclassman.
Otah from Pittsburgh.......> Jimbo Covert from Pittsburgh-------->Mike Ditka from Pittsburgh=Hard nose football players.
I'm starting to like the thoughts of drafting Otah.
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Have you heard of Jerious Norwood? If they dont take a qb the fans will riot.
Norwood is decent, but won't be able to carry the load. I also thought Chris Redmond looked decent at QB the last couple of games. With Harrington, Leftwich, and Redmond, I can see them holding off on QB hoping Woodson falls to the 2nd round. McFadden can give them a boost right away also if he really is the mini A.D. (APeterson).
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I see us going Otah at 14 just b/c Long will go to either St. Louis or Oakland, and Clady will go to KC.
I can see that too, I just threw in a WR to put in a bit of a twist. We definately need a OLT prospect that is capable of starting right away.
First RD POLL
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I think there' a slim chance McFadden could slide to us at 14.
The front runner was Atl until they signed Turner. That leaves Oak who could go Jake Long or a stud DT (Dorsey/Ellis). Next up is NYJ, but they are invested in TJ and have bigger DE needs. Cincy might take RB, but really need help on defense. That leaves Carolina who IMO will select a RB, but may opt for the bigger of the two in Mendenhall. So if McFadden falls to us, do we take him...hmmmmm, or could we possibly call Jerry Jones and make a trade. It would have to be straight up, even though Dal's 22+28=1440 and Chi's 14=1100. With this move Dallas gets McFadden and Chicago get the safer picks they are used to.
1. Baker/Nicks OT
1. Phillips SS/FS
2. Flacco QB
3. K. Smith RB
3. D Avery WR
4. W. Woodyard SS
5. B. Cottam TE Ten
6. B Richardson OT
7. P. Hillis FB