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(yep, from what I'm seeing in TC Rex will be the starter)
I didn't want to start another QB thread but now that you bring it up, Rex looks significantly better than Kyle so far in the videos I've seen. Kyle is just too innacurate past 5-10 yards. People say he protects the ball but I'm not sure they take into account all the 3 and outs with the dink and dunk offense. He also has 12 TDs and 15 INTs to Rex's 31 TDs and 33 INTs. Now, I know many people cringe at the thought of Rex as our QB but I do not see how Kyle truly can be considered an upgrade.
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Things I've noticed in TC videos:
-Alot of passes are going to the TEs, all 3 of them, nice
-We are running alot of screens
-Several "Wolfe up the middle plays" =/
-Forte looks alot faster and agile than he looked in the college videos I saw right after the draft
-Pass protection is scaring me, Qbs are having to step up a whole lot with not much time
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Why did we waste a 2nd round pick on this guy?
I've yet to hear anything about him in training camp.
He got a "sack" on Orton, the only sack I've heard of in camp so far. Besides, gonna be hard to grade a DE when he isn't in full pads and can't go full speed at any of the offensive players.
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Clayton said Orton has looked better. I trust him.
Funny you should mention that. The commentator mentioned that Clayton was at the first day practice and Jay Glazer was there the second day. He wondered what each would say since he noticed they weren't watching the field much at all, instead they were mingling with the other media members. It wouldn't be too far of a stretch to think the national media guys come to these practices and decide to get the cliff notes from the local guys instead of having to make judgements off one day.
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There are 4 highlight videos on youtube, 1 for each day of camp (
is the first), and 4 commentary videos by the guy who taped the highlights. The highlight videos should be checked out by everyone on the board, very good quality and truly worth it. The commentary is pretty cool too since it gives a first hand account from a guy who was watching it live.The videos show several nice passes from Rex and Kyle. Benett, R.Davis, K. Davis, and Hass had some very nice catches too. The stuff that didn't make the highlights is what we need to rely on the director for. By all appearances he seems pretty unbiased and so far he thinks Rex is pulling away in the QB battle. According to him, Kyle can hit all the short passes but most of his intermediate and long passes are innacurate and hang in the air. That appears to be a constant theme with Kyle in camp so far. Rex has been pretty accurate and has even had a few good scrambles. Both have had a couple of pics and fumbled snaps.
To those of you who have been at camp everyday, do these assessments seem fair?
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Thanks Miami Bear. But doesn't NBC only boradcast the Sunday Night games? If that is so, I am able to watch them here on ESPN.
Anyway, I really appreciate you posting the heads up. You did that last season as well and it really helped out this fan living outside the U.S.!
No problem brother, I imagine it must be rough to miss most of the games. I'd go crazy if I even missed one! Anyway I think you're right about them only showng Sunday night games. I had NBC and CBS confused. Oh well, maybe next year the other networks will follow suit. In the meantime, don't forget about Sopcast and TVU, I was able to watch most of the preseason games using those programs last year. I have the Sunday ticket so I never tried Sopcast/TVU during the season so not sure if it works (but I think it does).
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NBC GAMES WILL STREAM LIVE
Posted by Mike Florio on July 25, 2008, 11:35 p.m.
For the first time ever, NFL games will stream over the Internet. And they’ll be available for viewing at the whopping cost of zero dollars, zero cents.
Wow.
According to Terry Lefton and John Ourand of SportsBusiness Journal, whose story will be published on July 28, the 17 NBC games will be available for viewing at NFL.com and NBCSports.com.
The apparent plan is to use the televised broadcast, with ads sold specifically for the web sites inserted in place of the commercials.
Other NFL broadcast partners aren’t happy with the development, according to SBJ.
“The NFL is changing the rules as we go,” a network source told SBJ. “The right to stream games was not in any of the contracts we signed.”
NBC also might face friction from affiliates who’ll lose ratings points to folks who watch the game on the Internet instead.
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HESTER HAS HURT HAMMY
Posted by Michael David Smith on July 25, 2008, 7:23 p.m.
Although Bears receiver/return man Devin Hester reported to training camp today, he did not practice, and multiple media outlets in Chicago are reporting that he has an injured hamstring.
The Daily Herald reports that when Hester was asked if he would practice without a contract extension, he answered, “I have no comment on that.”
But Hester did say he decided to end his brief holdout after Bears General Manager Jerry Angelo and coach Lovie Smith told him they thought they could make progress on a contract extension.
“Progress was starting to move, and it was looking good, so I came back,” Hester said. “I talked to Jerry and coach Lovie, and everything seemed like it was starting to work out in the right order, and we were starting to hear what we liked, so I’m showing up.”
A Chicago sports radio station reported that if the hamstring keeps Hester out for long, the Bears could place him on the non-football injury list.
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Orton was working with the #1 offense while Rex was with the #2's.
So Rex's fumbled snap was from a center other than Kreutz? That would be understandable. It would also explain why Orton fumbled one from Kreutz if both are working with centers they don't normally work with. I hope they decide on a starter quick so they can get in sync with the 1st offense.
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HESTER NEEDS TO REPORT BY AUGUST 5
Posted by Mike Florio on July 23, 2008, 5:46 p.m.
One of the (rare) moments during which we gained some actual credibility in league circles came in 2005, when we explained that Eagles running back Brian Westbrook risked losing his ability to become an unrestricted free agent if he didn’t report to training camp by a specific date in August of that year.
By all indications, Westbrook’s agent didn’t know. And Westbrook eventually showed up.
Though the Collective Bargaining Agreement has been revised since Westbrook’s holdout, the provision in question still applies, and Bears receiver Devin Hester is the first guy who could lose a year’s credit toward free agency because of it.
Under Article XVIII, Section 1(
of the CBA, “a player shall not receive an Accrued Season for any League Year in which the player is under contract to a Club and in which he failed to report to such Club at least thirty days prior to the first regular season game of that season.”Since the 2008 regular season begins on September 4, Hester (a rookie in 2006) needs to show up by the close of business on August 5. Otherwise, he’ll not accrue a third NFL season in 2008. Four seasons are necessary to become eligible for unrestricted free agency.
Under the current CBA, however, it’s a distinction without a difference. Even with four accrued seasons after 2009, Hester would still be a restricted free agent, since six seasons of service are necessary to qualify for unrestricted free agency in the uncapped year of 2010.
But if new CBA is finalized before 2010 and if the four-season requirement for unrestricted free agency remains, Hester would be a restricted free agent in 2010, because he would have only three accrued seasons.
Bottom line? Look for Hester’s holdout to last no longer than August 5. Until then, he’ll be subject to fines of more than $15,000 per day, and he might have to repay 25 percent of his signing bonus allocation applicable to the 2008 season.
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Washington keeps picking up awesome players, especially on defense, over the years and yet they never seem to do squat once signed with them. I bet Taylor is a wash out. He has already said he only wants to play one more year. Doesn't sound too motivated to me.
Gonna have to disagree big time here Pix. Jason Taylor is not like alot of these other players, he and Zach Thomas were 2 true class acts on the Dolphins. They are true professionals. Even the Miami fans are happy to see Jason and Zach get a chance at a ring, that's how much good will they've built up. Not many players can say that. I hope we don't have to play against Jason Taylor ever again personally.
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This just goes to show that we as fans are not privy to all the information management has. I had wondered as well why no one wanted this guy, now I know.
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It all depends on the OL imo. I think Rex behind a good line can be a Pro Bowl QB. his struggles have always been under a crapload of pressure. Including our tightends, our receiving corp is average at worst. As far as RBs are concerned, I think their Oline dictate most of their success now a days. Teams with good lines seem to be plugging no names into their lineup after their starter goes down with injury and they don't miss a beat. Broncos and Indy have been doin it for years. Greenbay has been doin it the past couple of years to a lesser extent. If our Oline steps up, Forte will be fine.
For the record, I don't have much confidence in the line being very good this year as they currently stand. Reuben Brown would make me feel more comfortable even though he's lost weight.
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you can always argue, "what would it hurt". He likely would not be expensive and have experience, but I just am not sure it is worth it.
Funny thing is, according to PFT, he would be a little expensive if he were not to restructure his contract:
" Signed through 2010, Parker is due to earn base salaries of $1.85 million, $2.225 million, and $2.65 million, respectively, over the next three seasons."
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From PFT:
OLIVEA SUSPENSION A SUBSTANCE-ABUSE ISSUE?
Posted by Mike Florio on June 20, 2008, 8:17 p.m.
Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune strongly suggests that former Chargers tackle Shane Olivea’s four-game suspension was imposed under the substance-abuse policy.
“[T]hose around the team have known for some time that Olivea partied himself out of the league,” Acee writes.
This means that Olivea wasn’t a one-strike victim of a positive test, but a repeat offender. Under the steroids policy, a single failed test results in a four-game suspension. Under the substance-abuse policy, multiple steps apply before a four-game suspension, including a four-game fine.
Acee also reports that Olivea was recently close to signing with the Giants.
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We also need to remember that although it seems like every NFL player is getting in trouble, there really are just a few bad apples. Alot of players live the party life, here in Miami especially, and most of them never make the headlines. The people they surround themselves with are a bigger issue than the clubs themselves imo.
I don't think I ever compared him to anyone in particular but spraying champagne on a crowd of people not knowing who it might piss off is not the best way to keep trouble from finding you.
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The Merriweather rumor is just that. A rumor. He was spraying w/ champaign, I guess, but I question how much that has to do w/ all this. What it could be more about is money. How much did he spend on all those bottles of Dom? When you throw money around like that, you are advertising to all.
I agree w/ the comments that it is not just all pure bad luck. At some point, players have to realize that when they put themselves in certain situations, the odds of something bad happening go up. I have heard so many players talk about how, when they go into a bar, too often others want to prove how tough they are by bowing up to a NFL football player. Personally, I think that is stupid as hell, but those patrons are likely drunk. Heck, isn't that what happened w/ Tank the night his friend was shot.
I am not saying players need to skip the clubs and stick to late night church services, but when they live the party life, I simply would say the odds of something bad happening does go up. They need to understand this, and protect themselves.
We also need to remember that although it seems like every NFL player is getting in trouble, there really are just a few bad apples. Alot of players live the party life, here in Miami especially, and most of them never make the headlines. The people they surround themselves with are a bigger issue than the clubs themselves imo.
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I forgot about the unwritten rule that spraying champagne on someone is grounds to get killed or beaten and robbed. Im not saying he wasnt acting like an idiot but this was a little extreme.
It may not be grounds in your eyes, nor in mine, but things like this will come as no surprise to people from the street. Guy 1 douses guy 2 with liquor, guy 2 gets pissed and confronts guy 1, guy 1 doesn't apologize, guy 2 feels disrespected and a fight between the posses breaks out. Things escalate further and someone gets shot.
This type of thing happens all the time in the urban community. Sometimes the spark is even less than sparying champagne. Sometimes it's an accidental bump or stepping on someone's shoe.
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Believe Im not the type that sympathizes with a lot of the things that happens to players when they put themselves in certain situations but in both of his cases him or someone he was with were victims of crimes and regardless what led to the event, nobody should have to hold their 24 year old friends in their arms as theyre dying.
There is a video on youtube that shows Walker showering a crowd in a club with champagne. There is a rumor that he was in a bidding war with Floyd Mayweather as to who can buy the most bottles. Maybe he sprayed someone who didn't like it and got jumped.
The incident that got his friend killed also supposedly started with champagne being sprayed on a crowd.
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No, Tank wasnt guilty of the charges that resulting in him getting cut
Its the same situation except Benson didnt take a breath test like Tank did. The Bears have remained consistent with how they approach things like this. In case you were going to mention Briggs, that was an isolated incident and he has no track record of trouble. If Briggs does something like that again and doesnt get cut then we can start questioning the front office but until then, all the Bears are doing is trying to keep players that draw negative attention to the team more than once and show poor judgment AFTER the team has stood by them after the first incident.
I meant he was guilty of the charges that lead up to the "Tank Speech".
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In terms of his being innocent, in terms of the law, sure. But I still am not sure it matters.
Benson heads into this offseason already on very thin ice due to a lack of production, numerous injuries, questionable attitude, questionable ability to get along w/ teamates, and a newly added 2nd round RB the staff is high on.
Since then...
Benson gets into trouble on the boat. Okay, many give him the benefit of doubt and basically move on. How much talk had there been of late about his boating incident? I think the staff gave Benson the Tank speech. He was told he needed to do more than simply stay out of trouble w/ the law. He needed to avoid situations where little good can happen, whether it is an issue of perception or reality. Tank actually passed his breath test, but for the staff, he was guilty of once again putting himself in a questionable situation. He may not have broken the law, but by "toting the line" when he should have avoid the line all together, it was enough. Benson was told, IMHO, not to simply avoid crossing the line, but avoid situations that might put him near the line.
Gets busted driving nearly double the speed limit through a construction zone in the wee hours of the night. Not good, but not a bid deal made of it.
Then this. Benson knows he needs to avoid even the appearance or perception of wrong doing. He makes the choice to go out and party late into the night, and worse, drive. Maybe he was not drunk, and thus didn't cross the line, but he put himself in a situation where he had to tote the line, and that was over the line the bears drew in the sand.
Again, maybe it isn't fair. Like you said, it is perfectly legal to go out and have fun, and if he were not drunk, also legal to drive. But he put himself in that situation, and did so before the boat. As I said, if his last 3 years were different, his last 3 weeks may too have been different.
The difference between this and the Tank case was that in Tank's case he was guilty of the charges. In Benson's case it appears he wasn't guilty of the boating charge and the DUI is now at least being questioned. When Jerry Angelo said he was not please Benson had put himself in a bad position on the boat, you yourself said (correct me if I'm wrong) that if Benson was innnocent, you did not see how he was putting himself in any bad position by doing what many free Americans legally do.
I guess what I'm saying is that if the staff did give Benson the Tank speech after the boating incident, they shouldn't have. He didn't have any legal issues while with the Bears prior to that, and if innocent, his record with the team should still have been clear at that point, despite the negative perception.
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I don't care about the tape. My brother in law is a big guy, and there have been times I knew he was trashed, but he held himself so well, few that didn't know him would realize it. He would "ace" a field test, but would never pass a breath or blood test.
For me, I go back to Tank. Tank took the test, and it proved he was not over the legal limit, but IMHO, that was beside the point. He was drinking and choose to get behind the wheel of a car. That is bad enough, but when you are on a last chance, you simply should not be playing w/ fire like that.
According to Benson's own attorney, he had (I believe) 3 drinks. Maybe that was not enough for him to be drunk, or over the limit, but I do think that is enough that he should not have been behind the wheel.
Maybe it is all a double standard. Maybe I am just getting old. If it were 9pm, and Benson had a glass or wine or two, or a couple beers, at dinner, I might be more forgiving. But it being late at night, parying and not just at dinner, I simply view it different. Maybe Benson didn't break the law, but what he broke was the teams confidence. Whether he was in the right or wrong over the boat, I think it likely the staff said they were giving him one final chance. They likely said he needed to stear clear or trouble, or even situations that could lead to trouble. By staying out late and choosing to drive, he put himself in a situation that created an opportunity for bad things, which is what happened.
Hey, life sucks, but Benson's history, which he was in control of, put himself in this situation. Not the boating incident, but the lack of production and prior poor attitude. If Benson was a model player who produced, these incidents would have been dealt w/ different, IMHO. But Benson put himself in this situation, and did too little to get himself out of it.
I know what you mean about people that are drunk but being able to hold it together. The officer's affidavit, however, said Benson could not balance himself without wobbling and that he was slurring his speech. If the tape shows Benson moving like a sober person throughout an entire test, and requesting a blood test without slurring, thus contradicting the officer's own account, wouldn't that make you question everything else the officer says happened? I know I would.
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Sorry, been unable to spend time on the keyboard of late (nice timing).
I have been among Benson's strongest advocates. While I still question the police tactics on the boat, I think Benson blew it on the recent situation. Whether he was drunk or not, whether he should have blown or not, whatever. To me, that is all beside the point.
Last year, I blasted Tank. After getting into so much trouble, Tank getting caught drinking and driving (regardless how much) at the wee hours of the morning to me showed he simply had not learned his lesson. I see little difference here for Benson.
I thought Benson learned his lesson. He showed up to camp in shape, and by all reports, was running like a player w/ a chip on his shoulder. While not to the level most would want, to me, even his interviews showed a level of acknowleding some of his woes were on him, and that his future was up to him. And he seemed to be taking his situation seriously.
His recent arrest tells me otherwise. (a) Late night partying is not a crime, but for someone who is coming off recent troubles, you simply have to avoid putting yourself in bad situations, and he did little to avoid such (
His attorney has even said he had a couple drinks, though he maintains he was not drunk. So what. He had some drinks, and got behind the wheel. W/ the boat, Benson was not driving it, and it could be believed if he was not capable, another would. Here, he was driving, and it is pretty open/shut, at least to me. As others have said, he can afford a taxi, though I still go back to the original point, that inhis situation, partying all night may not have been his best option.It makes me sick we cut him, but I totally understand it. The boating arrest, the late night speeding, and now the DWI, are too much in too short of a time. For a player needing to avoid trouble, he did too much to put himself in situations where trouble is too likely. Once can deal w/, but the cumulitive effect here is too much to ignore.
Moving forward, I tend to hope we add a veteran. Many have said it was a mistake to trade away TJ and hand Benson the job, if for no other reason than the loss of any apparant competition at the position. AP does not provide a legit competition. Nor does Wolfe. While Forte should be given every opportunity to win the starting job, he should have to win it against someone more capable than what we currently have on the roster. I don't know if that means Lamont Jordan or Kevin Jones, or whoever, but I do believe we need to add a 4th RB. I simply believe it a mistake to hand Forte the job, which is exactly what we are doing if we do not replace Benson.
I still have mixed feelings about this. If he was innocent in the boating fiasco, why should he have to lie low and not go out late night and party within the limits of the law (assuming the second charge proves to be bogus as well)? Because of the negative PERCEPTION the boating thing brought? It embarrassed the Bears organization when the story first broke, but even after reports came out supporting Benson's story, JA spoke as if he was embarrassed anyway and I really don't get that. The Bears caved to outside pressure instead of sticking up for one of it's own who seems to have been mistreated.
I know many people think he should have gotten a cab, but if he really wasn't drunk, why should he have to be EXTRA legal? I'd really like to see the tape to clear this up more.
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I wish you'd taken my advice and stopped trying to "clarify".
I have a problem with your thinking. "A DUI does not mean the driver was drunk." Legally speaking you're wrong. But you know that. You apparently are suggesting you aren't intoxicated to the degree that mental and physical faculties are too impaired at .08+ for safe driving. You're saying you know yourself better than what courts and experts have deemed. Hypothetically you could be right. Has this theory been tested on you by a research team or something? Nope. Rationalize it all you want, you're still taking a chance...saying in your mind, it's worth the risk I'll kill or maim because (in the expert opinion of someone who's recently been drinking) the risk is low. That's fine if it was only you at danger, but you do not have the right to make that choice for someone else's and their wife and three little kids (or hell, even if it's just one guy and he's a lawyer). Rail against hypocrisy if you like. I don't like it either. But the solution to the hypocrisy is to stop driving drunk, not to keep our mouths shut, which is exactly what I meant when I called you misguided. Proclaiming you'd take your chances again if it ever comes up isn't exactly endearing either, but I'm not interested in making this argument about you. Also, I'm not completely black or white on it all in the sense that I recognize it's not nearly as irresponsible to be .08 as it is .18, as do court judges typically.
Like Pixote apparently, I also can guarantee I've never driven with over a .08 BAL but it's moot. It might not be apples to apples because the onset only happens after you've been driving, often putting you in a bind because you don't want to pull over just anywhere and rest ('cause you might get killed like Michael Jordan's dad)...but I've driven when I was way too sleepy to have any business doing so. If the end result is me crippling some innocent for life, I don't see how it's all that different. These days, I refuse to put my own appraisal that the "risk is low" above other innocent people's safety and I sart looking for a place to rest or to properly wake up if I find myself in that situation. Hypothetically, even if one month from now I excercise bad judgement and once again drive while sleepier than I should be, it would still be no excuse for me to stop criticizing it. In othe words, I can guarantee you any hypocrisy will not stop me from saying it's wrong or criticizing someone for it.
When I eventually questioned myself as to why my newfound clarity about driving in an impaired state evolved slowly over time rather than getting it from the get-go, I came to the conclusion that as a community, we don't stress enough (or maybe the problem is quality, not quantity) exactly what I've expressed in the paragraphs above...and even to the extent that people know it's wrong, it happens so frequently that people are lulled into a sort of "everybody does it sometimes...it just happens" sort of mentality. So even if miamibear refuses to understand, hopefully anyone else who bothered to read all this won't say, as I did once, "although I knew better, it just didn't hit home".
[Thanks mods for allowing slightly offtopic, I've said now what I have to say.]
Judging by your response, I'm not sure if I was very clear on the "risk is low thing". I didn't mean i was taking a low risk that I'd injure myself or soemone else. I meant I was at a low risk of getting a DUI charge by driving after I had a beer or two since I'm 6ft 160lbs and the breathalyzer would probably register me over the limit. Because of my high tolerance for alcohol, drinking 2 beers is the equivalent of drinking two bottled waters so in no way would it hinder my driving. Why would someone who is not druk get pulled over to begin with you may be askign yourself? In Florida, almost every car has darker tints on the windshields than allowed by the law (due to the hot sun). It's one of those laws the police normally dont bother you for breaking, but on occasion they will pull you over and write you a citation. If I get pulled over for illegal tints and the officer smells beer on me, you can imagine how the rest of the story goes.
It doesn't have to be beer or could be wine with dinner at a restaraunt. Cough medicine, mouth wash, or a host of other things can skew these tests. The point is, these breathalyzer and blood tests are highly contested and standardized, so a DUI charge can potentially be given to anyone that has ANY alcohol in their system.
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You know what? Even though Kyle threw 2 picks, this has been my favorite video of him so far. He finally took a few chances and in doing so, made some nice completions. My biggest problem with Kyle (besides his accuracy), has been that he has allowed the perception of him being a game manager become his reality on the field. I remember his rookie preseason he was airing it out and completing it alot of the time (to Mark Bradley no less). He was playing without pressure and seemed very comfortbale playing his game. It seems like his game changed fundamentally after the Cincy game where he threw like 5 picks. Now he has looked scared to throw past 10 yards. I understand not turning it over but multiple 3 and outs can be almost as bad as a couple of picks.
I also like that Kreutz came in and there were no fumbled snaps. I'll take it one day at a time.
I do not like all these Mckie up the gut plays, yuck!