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  1. NEXTGEN Stars NFL Draft Player Profiles 2024 - Patric Tursic

    "Summary: one of the drafts biggest wild cards, a boom-or-bust prospect with tantalizing traits but very little track record. His elite physical tools, from his explosive first step to his rare length, give him as high a ceiling as any pass rusher in the class.

    With more seasoning and added bulk, he could quickly develop into a dynamic impact player off the edge.

    Scouts Notebook:

    "I'm telling you, this kid Booker is going to shoot up the boards. He's got the freakish tools you can't teach and he's already showing the technique. Sky's the limit."

  2. 20 minutes ago, adam said:

    A trade for an early 5th rounder. They got their guy who some expected to go at #122, at #144 so depending on the trade value, it seems like a great pick.

     

    It cost next year's 4th. So assuming they are a fringe playoff team, that pick is in the 120s for 144. 

    didn't the bears have two picks in the 4th next year?

    that said, this kid could really become a special player. he is FAST and hits like butkus. he could be the steal of the draft (or bust LOL). the reason he dropped is his lack of playing time in minny. when he transfered to kansas it is pretty impressive.

  3. 4 minutes ago, Pixote said:

    I can only assume that Poles agreed that the prospects in the later rounds of this draft were not very inspiring. LOL Without any EDGE or 3T he felt comfortable with, he went with the top Punter in the draft. I know many of you will be disappointed, but it is actually a guy I wanted on our team.

     

    i agree. we got a starting quality player in the 4th. normally i wouldn't pick one that high but we are getting to the point where our roster is full and a pick this far down ends up on the practice squad or cut especially if they have an eye on some future cuts/free agents.

    a punter is a really important part of your defense per se'. if this guy kills it it was worth it this particular year. next year we are fat with picks so something has to give for our roster then.

  4. 16 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

    I guess the question is how you evaluate Fashanu. He is the only OT (after Alt) I think is worthy of the #9 pick. If we trade down, there are all kinds of OL options a little later, but they arent going to be blue chip Left OTs.
     

    NextGen Stars:

    "Fashanu projects as a top-10 pick with the potential to be the first OT off the board. His polished pass protection skills, athletic upside, and room for growth in the run game make make him an enticing prospect for teams seeking a long term solution at the LOT position."

    From the Scouts Notebook:

    "Fashanu is something special. He's got the feet of a dancer and the punch of a heavyweight boxer. I haven't seen a tackle prospect this polished in pass protection since Joe Thomas. He's gonna anchor someone's blind side for the next 15 years and make a whole bunch of Pro Bowls along the way. If I'm picking in the top 10 I'm sprinting to the podium to turn in the card with his name on it."

    NextGen Stars NFL DRAFT PLAYER PROFILES 2024 - Patrick Tursic

    this is a very good pre draft source of information on the players in the draft. if you don't have it it is worth the price. No photo's and in soft cover book form.

  5. On 4/18/2024 at 3:09 PM, dawhizz said:

    I could be dissuaded, but as of now, I think Poles' decision tree at #9 looks like this:

    1) If one of the top three WRs is there, take him.

    2) If there is a good deal to trade down without going below #20 or so, take it.

    3) Failing those two, take Jared Verse.  He just seems to have the size and versatility (run + pass) that would appeal to the team while still having pass rush upside, and being a pretty safe pick.  Plus I think Verse's demeanor (that he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder after starting out at Albany) will appeal to Poles.

    my hope is we take an OLT at that spot or even trade up a bit to get one. i would rather fill this hard to acquire position than any receiver. the ONLY position that could be as valuable is a DE if one looks like a perennial pro bowler and not just a very good prospect.

  6. 31 minutes ago, CrackerDog said:

    Now moving up for Alt might be a different story.  I might do that but only next year’s second, not first.  We’re only moving up 4 spots.  

    what about next years 2nd and 4th? or next years 2nd and 3rd?

  7. 19 hours ago, Pixote said:

    You mean like Ray Guy of Oakland drafted #23, round one, in 1973 and played his entire career, 14 seasons, for the Raiders?

     

    or maybe like in 1995 trading trace armstrong a 7-10 sack defensive end for a 2nd and 3rd round pick to miami and then drafting tod saurkraut a freaking punter in the 2nd round and a non descript guard in the 3rd?

    brilliant, trade a producing defensive end for a punter and nothing guard. only mikey the genius gm could come up with that.

  8. 17 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

     

    Some things are facts and how you wish to  interpret them is subjective. I didn't produce the video .. Where do you find me pushing this video? You're riding my ass for no reason at all.  

    paranoia strikes deep. into your life it will creep.

    did i accuse you of producing ANY video? am i 'riding your ass' for anything other than the inane comments you made?

    as far as facts? what are the actual facts in conjunction within the context of it being used? that is how innuendo's are misinterpreted into basic fact/lies.

  9. 2 minutes ago, Pixote said:

    On a positive note, LOL

    This quote (made by Poles) in an article on NFL.com was a very positive sign:

     

    i really don't mind a debate on skills and even attitude but the stuff that is being put out is beyond the pale.

    i am not frothing at the mouth for williams. i am hoping he is all that and a bag of chips but if not so be it and i hope we draft the one who is.

    i haven't done the film study or in depth analysis but this type of attack media is for fools who assume anything posted online has credence without in-depth review or research.

    anybody can say anything. it's up to you as an individual, if the poster doesn't do the work to back up their claims with FACTS, to shit-can the nonsense and lies.

  10. 1 minute ago, Pixote said:

    Rogers is a scum bag. We all know that. It has nothing to do with this.

    a) I want a QB who can help us win a Super Bowl. Check. No issues there.

    b) I also want a QB to show maturity. To represent our franchise on and off the field with the dignity and respect it deserves.

    I'm hoping Caleb can do both. If he can, I'm all in!

    that's what we all hope.

    think back on the didka days. it was money first, ego second and then dignity and respect a far third.

    as far as williams? if they pick him then let's see how he represents our franchise before we determine whether or not we should draft him because of mostly silly, non-dated or in context verbal diarrhea.

    if he's a psycho and won't play here i am sure someone in our organization will figure that out before april.

  11. 13 minutes ago, Pixote said:

    The bottom line: I do not want to see late-night talk hosts (Kimmel, Colbert, etc.), SNL, and the media spoof Caleb because after losing a game against the Packers, he sought comfort from his mother in the stands.

     

    wow, how soon they forget.

    or maybe rogers not even bothering to find out if his mother and brother burned to death in a CAL fire? or helping them out when their house burned down? i seem to remember something to that effect. am i wrong? at least this kid seems to care and isn't a sociopath like rogers.

    i personally don't give a shite what anyone says if we have a qb that can put us in the winners circle.

  12. 4 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

    You're calling out people about complaining?

    Caleb hasn't taken a snap in the league yet and we're supposed to feel lucky to have him? I think  I'll let him p!ay some games  first before I vote him MVP.

    about THAT crap? it's truly laughable that any credible source of nfl information or even dumb fans would post nonsense like that.

  13. 15 hours ago, AZ54 said:

     

    i admit that i couldn't watch any more than about 3/4 of the first video because this is the biggest load of CRAP and waste of time i have seen pre-draft in a long, long, time.

    so freaking what that he paints his nails with insults to opposing teams?

    who CARES if he gets in that imbecile on the field fans face? he didn't punch him at least which is seriously what i would have thought long an hard about myself.

    who CARES if he is looking to squeeze every penny out of a contract he can get? wouldn't you??

    who CARES what his father has said or NOT said to the press?

    who CARES if he has a preference where he wants to play. they ALL do and some like elway and manning push it. poles will certainly know before draft day.

    who really gives a SHITE if he gets emotional with his mother in the stands? this moron commentator is whining about that??

    who CARES if he didn't  shake hands with the opponents or whatever post game? ANYBODY remember buddy ryan?

    who CARES if he is leary about chicago as a place where QB's go to die? everyone on this board has said the same at one time or another.

    EDIT: he didn't ignore allen for keerists sake. he shook his hand didn't he? is there some set of rules of when he should do it?

    if that's the BEST crap they can throw at the wall to hope it sticks it's pretty pathetic.

    whoever that hack is that narrated that video must be getting paid by washington or mayes agent.

  14. 8 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

    Also, taking a lesson from all the QB failures, you want to surround your guy with as much talent as you can, so i think pick 9 goes to offense. WR, OT possibly Bowers. Maybe trade down a few slots for a specific player like Thomas or JPJ, but in every case it's because you've targeted an offensive player as a foundational piece long term.

    So while I get what adding a DE means this year because we have Allen, I think it's better to get that WR now and let Caleb get chemistry with him, and then pick up the DE next year, when there may even be more depth at that position in the draft?

    It all comes down to long term vs win this year, and of course how you have the prospects graded out.

    i'm not so sure. with all the qb's going in the top ten this is pushing down other first class draft picks down like DE or even LOT.

    if you get a chance to draft a blue chip player at one of those two positions you HAVE to take it. it could be years before we are drafting in the top 10 again and those premium players are the top of the list (other than qb) for building your franchise long term. you can pick up good+ receivers in future drafts in the middle of the first or even in free agency. you will rarely find premium LOT's or DE's in those slots.

    also we have seen what difference a good+ defensive end can do for our defense and overall chances to get to a superbowl. that means if sweat was injured there is nobody to fill in his shoes and it's very doubtful we would find that kind of player from a team like washington again. you would way overpay to replace him in free agency or a trade.

    the same could be said of LOT. if there is a premium blue chipper to replace our LOT that gives you a lot of trading power to other teams.

    if either of those type of players are there at 9 and they rate out that high i take them without any doubt.

  15. 5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

    But the idea that Caleb not giving medicals is why Justin didnt get more value? That's nonsense. Poles needed the medical but then traded Fields anyway before the medical? That whole narrativer already was proven false today.

    And worst of all hes not gonna pick Caleb to avoid a circus - hes going to pick Caleb because hes the best damned QB thats been available in a long time.
     

    But the idea that Caleb not giving medicals is why Justin didnt get more value? That's nonsense. Poles needed the medical but then traded Fields anyway before the medical? That whole narrativer already was proven false today.

    here is a thought... not a single team in the nfl see's fields as a starting qb after 3 years in the league. potential? steelers think so and it's at a bare minimum cost to them especially now they have an aging qb's backup via injury or to possibly run trick plays. it's a smart move by the steelers AND a smart move by the bears too:

    a) get anything in return for releasing him. why would the bears want a split locker room or fan base in any sense of the word by keeping him? flus most likely was also consulted on this move and agreed.

    b) the bear organization respected fields enough that he was traded to a team with the BEST option for him to succeed and one he was 'probably' receptive to. if you are to believe what poles said about doing right by justin, he just proved it. this helps in our future for player acquisitions in free agency or even signing draft picks. it builds TRUST. that is worth losing a future 3rd round pick for next year (a value of 4th round this year).

    c) if fields succeeds in the future that in itself is great. he is a good kid. with the steelers this is a solid franchise for fields to either become a starter or reach his potential as a backup.

    there is NO WAY this was a bad move by chicago. they avoided a MAJOR gamble by keeping fields and hoping he turns out better than the entire NFL believes at this moment in time and losing the chance to draft the best prospect at qb in years. this is a win/win situation for all three parties involved.

    us keeping fields and hoping to trade him in the future to some crap team with a downed qb or hold him for a year in limbo to get a comp pick is surely is not in fields best interest.

    poles did it RIGHT.

     

  16. 26 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

    I don't understand it.  Every team in the NFL can trade for him.  I found it stupid from true beginning.  At the combine, 4 medical teams evaluate you, then it's over.  He chooses to have it done numerous separate times, which I would find overwhelming.

    california is a 'smokey' state.

    hmmmm

  17. 8 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

    I stated if Poles likes Caleb he's drafting him. Its  not Caleb or bust in his mind, only yours  . As the GM he can't get drunk on prospects and ignore all his options. He's not old school because he might not draft Caleb, he will have a reason. I will be glad when his actions clears up our future so we can all like the Bears again instead of debating choices.

    yeaaaaa i'm caleb ONLY or bust at least in my mind. it HAS to be him no matter what. add that to all the other non-information from you and....

    dude, i am LAUGHING at you.

  18. 2 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

    I guarantee Poles gives a shit if they win. He's not blowing off a season or two because 3 years from now he may have better odds of winning a SB. 

    By he way, last years SB did not have any generational QBs prospects playing in it. 

    wow... according to your theory poles is just another same ole same ole GM we have had in chicago since finks. win now so i can keep my job. give the suckers some faux hope with high priced/aging free agents guaranteed to turn it around and we can worry about the future some time in the future. LOL

    also just for curiosities sake... how long do YOU predict these wonder players we will be drafting in exchange for our #1 pick will take to become all-pro players (or for that matter even GOOD)? what is the average for ANY position to become acclimated to the NFL at a consistent HIGH all-pro level?

    i guess nobody ever thought of that huh?

  19. 47 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

     

    Caleb has talent but there's still a risk with any QB drafted. Much worst consequences with the first pick. Poles knows he has to win this year. 

    OK. are you saying that there is no or minimal risk picking more non-QB player/players as long as you don't use the #1 pick? is that what you are really saying?

    so to 'reduce' the risk of lower picks being a bust, do you draft the same player position with all your draft picks? otherwise what sense does that make?

    Draft Williams knowing QBs usually struggle their first year and get one more blue chip player at 9. Your next pick is 75. Starters are more likely in round 1 +2 than later in draft. WR or Edge? 

    so poles is going to figure it will take too long for a drafted qb to help the team he thinks has to win NOW (not a year or three from now) to keep his job? drafting edge or wide receivers is his goal to keep it? if that's the case he is surely the wrong man for the GM spot in chicago.

    Trade back to 2, draft capital. Trade back again and have 9 and a 10 to 15 pick. You can draft Verse or Latui and Brian Thomas plus get 2 to 3 second round picks. Draft Zach Frazier, OG-OT and maybe a QB prospect. Another WR? A Brandon Fiske? Jaylen Wright? 

    so GAMBLING on more draft 'capital' is the solution to winning a superbowl? more WR's, G's, DE's etc. and hope they turn out average at the worst?

    If Poles believes Williams is the guy, he will take him and keep trading back for more picks. What if he doesn't? No one has that answer.

    i already know the obvious, just tell me the incredibly obvious.

    The second option wins more games than drafting a rookie QB. Stroud was an outlier, that rarely happens. 

    who gives two shites if we win more games? there is only ONE game i want to win consistently!

  20. let's put all this into perspective.

    let's say you have one of the following qb's on your roster and had coaches that knew what to do with them:

    joe montana; steve young; dan morino, tom brady, brett favre, john elway, payton manning, aron rogers.

    you have a chance to trade with another nfl team for an all-pro/pro-bowl LOT, an all-pro/pro-bowl WR AND an all-pro/pro-bowl DE straight up for those three players. which qb would you trade in this scenario?

    then tell me how long you could keep them in this salary cap age.

  21. 16 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

    If you have a QB as capable as Fields and with Moore…yes it’s realistic. DJ Moore has said it himself.  

    His growth has been phenomenal. If you look at the games where he came back off of injury, he’s been everything you could ask out of a quarterback. Puts us in a position to win, getting the ball to his playmakers and if he’s gotta do it himself he does it himself and takes it like 50, 60 yards and does his thing. That’s all you can ask, is just steady growth and that’s what he did.”

    And added that he and MHJ grew up together and ran on the same track team.  He also suggested it would be “all love” if he were to join the Bears.  

    But what does Moore know?  He only played with Justin and had a career year while doing so.   🤷🏻‍♂️

     

    so just for the record... are you saying that you would draft a franchise quality receiver instead of a franchise quality quarterback if you needed both?

    that being said, do i assume that fields is a franchise quality qb to you?

  22. 11 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

    So by your rationale I’m more likely to be consistently successful by betting on the 0 or double 00 straight up than I do the column or corner bets?  

    there are 38 numbers to play. every single number you play (no black/red even/odd) has the exact same chance to win.

    just because you would play 5 numbers doesn't make each number a better odd to win.

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