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I believe so. I don't think we can afford him. Too many bigger problems to fill.
Think you're right about Briggs. Rosenhaus is going to get some team to pony up big $ and the Bears will say thanks, but no thanks.
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Agreed on prospects. Disagree on Orton. IMO - he's played better than the other two, without the lead time. He's probably playing a little tight knowing all he needs to do it not F it up. Which he also did as a rookie. Give him time to relax a little and I think the accuacy will come. IMO - Orton has a little toughness and moxey that Rex and Griese do not. He has also not recieved a complete fair shot thusfar his carreer.
Trade Griese, sign Rex to an incentive laden deal and let a QB earn the job. FYI - The QB out of Michigan looked really good.
What they do at QB is going to depend on Rex. If JA can sign him at a reasonable cost, I'd say that Griese is gone and they draft someone on day two. Then again, I don't think they can get Rex on the cheap, and some team is going to offer him a deal that he won't turn down. The we probably keep Griese and look for a QB day one of the draft.
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I'm not real sure it would have mattered who the OC was this season. That doesn't mean that I approve of the game plans he's put together this season. But, I can see why it would be difficult to put together a good game plan when execution is inconsistant and at any one point you don't know what you'll actually get out of your players. A rash of drops by the WR, lack of success in the run game, would make it tough for any Coordinator to be successful. You could have the most brilliant OC but if the players dont' execute it doesn't matter.
Pretty good summary of the reasons why they'll bring Turner back. All those excuses allow everyone to cover their butts and hopefully move on to improving the team through new assistant coaches and a shot of new talent on the field.
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Or install big ars fans in one side of the stadium to simulate at 40 MP sustained wind.
Kind of like adjusting the mound or the level of the foul lines in baseball. That could insure we'd at least win 8 games a season!
Oh, and we could turn them off when we had the ball, unless it was for a long FG attempt!

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Go back further for the Bears. Sid Luckman in the 40s was the last successful QB at putting a defense on its heels. Hence, players set or tie records like this one:
Consecutive 300 yard games-2
Brian Griese( 10/14-10/21) tied with Jim Miller, Bill Wade, George Blanda, and Sid Luckman
That's right. Brian Griese managed to permanently etch his name in the Bears record books by doing the unthinkable...throwing for more than 300 yards in 2 consecutive games. 300 yards passing is comparable to having a 100 yd rushing game. And if you are a Bear QB you step into unchartered waters when you throw for 300 yds. in a 3rd straight game! Isn't this embarrassing to you guys?
It's long been the time that this things should change and it starts with attitude. I read of others claiming that in swirly winds the passing game is ineffective. Swirling winds are the exception--not the rule. I don't live by exceptions, neither should the Bears. The passing game needs an upgrade. The pass sets up the run.
We'd played only one game out of 16 that had swirling winds. So I agree, we need to develop the passing attack and then pound the ball after we have the lead. We were very successful early last season when Rex was delivering to Berrian with the long ball.
For me, it will begin with the Oline. Gotta have the protection first, then everything else falls into place.
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I agree 100%. The flavor of the day is a pass oriented offense. We need to retool and change our MO to be successful. We have some of the pieces. I think Hester could be another Steve Smith type of WR. Olsen is the real deal. Berrian (if resigned) is a solid receiver who can give you the big play. QB is a question mark as of now and our OL needs a lot of work. There is no reason we can not get these areas fixed through FA and the draft.
I agree with you, you need to improve the WR talent and utilize Hester and Olsen more. Not too surprisingly, while listening to the game yesterday, Jeff Joniak said toward the end of the gme that the total number of passes thrown by the Bears this season ranked third all time for in team history. So I think that, in large part, Lovie is dreaming and pandering to the old scholl when he says 'get off the bus running'.
I do think Ron can do a much better job of utilizing talent--Hester, Bradley, Olsen, giving Hass a look-see- than he's done. But we are moving into the 21st century football wise.
And a solid OLine is going to make a big difference in the final score of games. Just look what Orton could do when he had time to find receivers.
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I am talking about the politics of the award. MVP most always come from a winning team.
Peace

Sorry, I should have added ?The Bears' MVP.'
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I don't get it. They beat us twice and yet they pick in front of us. How the hell does that happen????
Peace

You're right ConnorBear. That sucks. And NO even picks ahead of us. Damn the SOS!
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I hope not. A little late I hope.
I think that JA and Lovie will look at the dismal play by the OLine and he'll be back. Now, the offensive line coach may get the boot to reinforce their decision.
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Any doubt? DEVIN!!!! See you next season Hester. Have a safe offseason, and learn how to block as a WR!
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After today's effort, I'd say that Turner probably saved his job. That means we're probably going to have alot to talk about throughout the season next year.
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So the Seachikens finish the regular season with a loss to Atlanta. Now that is building momentum for the playoffs! Then again, they are IN the playoffs. But I don't think they are going anywhere but home after their first game.
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This game has had about everything. A HB pass, a punt return for TD, and a safetie. And what's even better, they all favored the Bears. Fun game.

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That was the wrong shoulder there..
Damn! Well, Orton is human, and he's a Bears QB.

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I really hope we keep Alex Brown and start him next year and use Anderson as a situational pass rusher.
From the mouths of kids and drunks!
You got that right. Brown has earned a good contract. We can have one hell of a front 4 and then our LBs aren't too shabby, either. -
Why can't we finish teams??? Last week was the only time this yr. Frustrating as hell.
Peace

That's a big reason why this is the end of the season for us.

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HESTER!!!! Mr. Unbelievable!!

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Agreed but I think that is a big if. Since it is a very thin FA market for QBs, I believe Rex will be in demand.
Peace

I'm afraid you're right ConnorBear. There's alot of $ out there that teams spend in crazy ways.

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Do you know what potential means? By no means did he say he wants him as the guaranteed starter. Potential is the key word here
Dont you have a signature to complain about somewhere?
At the very least Kyle is making Griese superfulous. If we can resign Rex, I think we dump Griese and draft a QB.
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YES HESTER!!
Where has this OLine protection been all season? Give the QB time and he can deliver! Hester gets it in the endzone!
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The Bears D is getting trashed. Bad tackling. We can not win a shoot out. We must stop the leakage or we are sunk!
Agree with that. Where'd the agressiveness go from earlier?
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See what Kyle can do with 2:00 left.
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Adrian Tomlinson
Hope Benson is watching this. Learn something, kid, from a guy who wants it.
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Turner must be scared of losing his job. He's calling a much better game thus far.

JA intends on bringing Rex back
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I agree with you on that DaBearSox. Kyle seems to be a bit more careful with the ball and a bit more elllusive (though not by much). I'd like it if we did resign Rex, but IMdO, there's going to be alot of money moving out there to entice him. And I don't see JA breaking the bank to keep Rex. But we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. This offseason is going to be big in determining whether or not we are competitive next year.