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ChileBear

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  1. 10 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

    There is no such thing as a game without flukes and chaos - I think you misunderstood me. What Im saying is that I am not in favor of changing rules to create more chaos and flukes so that the chance of the inferior team winning increases from where its already been.

    Got it. But does the rule create flukes and chaos? I don't know anything about the new rule, so I'm asking.

     

  2. 9 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

    I totally disagree. Especially now that we are becoming one of the good teams who can win games without flukes and chaos.

    And I totally disagree with the idea of "games without flukes and chaos." Those are integral parts of almost every game. Heck, the ball's shape implies crazy bounces and unexpected events. I actually love that part of football.

  3. 44 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

    I think Odunze is a really really good and grounded dude. He is going to work hard, etc.  He has good 40 speed and shown a ton of ability to make tight catches and use his body. It really comes down to me - will those strength's overcome his lack of quickness - or is he quick enough to get enough seperation where he can dominate in the pro's or with the margin's shrinking and the hits better does it kind of negate some of his strength's and he ends up more "okay". Barring injury I think no matter what he will be a solid 750-900 yard guy...the question is can he be a 1300 yard type of receiver.  

    He has two great vets to learn from in Moore and Allen.

  4. 7 hours ago, lemonej said:

    I wouldn't trade up for MHJ. I also believe that Nabors or Odunze will be available at 9. Minnesota did not acquire two first round picks to stay back and wait for a replacement for Cousins. I believe 4 QBs will go in the top 10 and maybe the top 5. That number 4 pick is where the most likely spot for Harrison to go. AZ already having 2 1st rounders may be tough to move of 4 but, the Chargers with a new HC and GM may be willing to deal as well as NYG at 6. Tenn at 7 and ATL 8 aren't WR spots.

    Poles has made 21 picks in his 2 drafts and I'm okay with him staying with 4 picks and will consider Sweat, Allen and Bates as part of this draft.   

    Agree totally. If anything I see Poles trading down. We are in a great spot in this year's draft. No need to mortgage anything to move up. watch what happens with the forst 8 picks and who is there at 9 for us, then make that decision to draft or trade down. I trust Poles to get this right.

  5. 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

    In order of importance, the most important position on the field is the QB, and so the second most important position is the guy that knocks the QB down.

    Or your guy at OT that keeps that from happening. But I do think the big need is DE/DT and unless on of the top OL is there at 9 my bet is on DE/DT.

  6. 1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

    No doubt however he does elsewhere will be measured to whomever replaces him.  I would suspect that to last a while. 

    And FWIW, although technically correct, I would (respectfully) disagree he’s ’just like Trubisky’ as his fan base has been much more invested this time round.  And because of that the Ghost of Justin will be around for a bit.   Only way to exorcise that is for whomever replaces him to play their ‘cajones out’.  

    Yes, the new guy must "play their ‘cajones out’" and do better than Justin's 10-28 record. LOL

  7. 14 hours ago, adam said:

    What it comes down to is their own internal evaluation of Justin. If they didn't think he could improve enough to pay him, and based on the compensation, 31 other teams felt the same way, then what can Poles do? 

    There would've been way too much drama in the locker room and with the fanbase, so this is an unfortunate set of circumstances. 

    This. And also evry other team's evaluation of him in the league. Look, I like Justin, but he just is not a starting NFL QB at this point. Three years in and he NEVER took over any game and so often fell apart in the fourth quarter. Good luck to him, but time for my team to look for a true QB that can take us to the next level. Did Poles get fleeced? I don't believe so given the market. Should we have kept Fields and draft the next QB? That would have caused so much doubt and whispering that would have ripped the team apart. Will the new QB struggle? Probably, but the expectation is he'll have the ability to be great. Justin had three years and didn't show it. Now we move on to a new QB era everyone, like it or not.

  8. 3 minutes ago, jason said:

    Neither of our scenarios is guaranteed.
     

    You increase odds by creating a good team that consistently makes the playoffs and threatens for the SB every year. It’s more realistic to build a team, create the culture, sustain excellence, and get to the big dance a few times a decade if you’re lucky. 
     

    Otherwise you’re making “very good” the enemy of “perfect,” and ruining a good team every 4 years in search of virtually unattainable perfection.

    Bottom line:  Until we have a solid QB we ain't winning anything. Use that no. 1 on the best QB this year and paly with that no. 9 pick. What a unique and great position we're in for the draft.

  9. 6 hours ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

    I could list a myriad of reasons why and how I would wholesale disagree with you but what would that accomplish?  Rather than hash that out I'll leave it as 'we'll agree to disagree'.  Signed - Skip

    Agree with you, Alaskan. And just can't wrap my head around Mongo's "logic".

  10. 1 hour ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

    And to Jason’s point; like 1(2) or 1(11)?  

    I think it's not a good argument to say we've failed previously in selecting a QB with the first pick so when one comes available that is much more highly touted than any since Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning, we should stick our heads in the sand and let some other team have him. To be great ya gotta take the swings. I see this as such an opportunity. We've got that no. 9 pick as well. What a great spot to be in. Don't f it up by worrying about possible failure. What about total success and a Super Bowl with a great QB? And that's to Jason's point about HOPE.

  11. 1 minute ago, jason said:

    You hold Fields because he’s still under rookie contract and you try to fix the team around him. If they improve the OL like you suggest, then Fields will look better and the Bears will make an immediate ascension.

    I just don't think Fields has the next level in him as a QB. He has skill, but another year of "improve around him and "the Fields will look better" will just be another of our franchise failures you alluded to earlier.

     

  12. 4 minutes ago, jason said:

    I love Waddle, but that’s nonsense. We’ve seen countless teams make players look better than when they get to another team, whether that be offensive weapons, offensive scheme, coaching, or other. Look no further than Cutler: well over 4K, traded to Chicago, gets destroyed in year one, never the same again.

    So we're hopeless, why follow the Bears as your team?

  13. 6 minutes ago, jason said:

    If Poles picks a QB, Williams to be exact, with the #1, that rookie will flounder with a below average OL, a below average RB, and a poor offensive scheme. DJ will want to leave. Kmet will want to leave. Williams will show himself to be an eccentric prima donna. The rookie QB will then be a bust. And Poles will be fired for following the previous Bears’ flaws of hitching a wagon to yet another horse that’s walking into a minefield.

    Clear the minefield first. 

    Hold it, we've got two young and improving Tackles, cap space for free agents and draft capital. The OL will be better and I'd rather see a new QB with better skills than more of the same with Fields. And if what you say is true, then Fields was a lost cause two years ago, so why keep him longer, based on your arguement?

     

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