Rush23 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/212314-...ed-to-re-locate Article on 10 Players in the NFL who could benefit from re-locating. Thoughts on the article....also what other players could benefit from a change of scenery in the NFL? This is to get some good discussion going...what do you agree with...what do you disagree with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixote Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/212314-...ed-to-re-locate Article on 10 Players in the NFL who could benefit from re-locating. Thoughts on the article....also what other players could benefit from a change of scenery in the NFL? This is to get some good discussion going...what do you agree with...what do you disagree with? What WR would not benefit from going to a team with a QB upgrade? What CB would not benefit from better Safety backup? Thigpen Is a #1 QB? You were that impressed with TE M Bennett? DJ Williams hasn't been able to showcase his talent in a 3-4 defense? How much time has he played in a 3-4? I am not going to go any further. A waste of time, as was my time reading this article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush23 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Smile. The internet isn't that serious lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 What WR would not benefit from going to a team with a QB upgrade? What CB would not benefit from better Safety backup? Thigpen Is a #1 QB? You were that impressed with TE M Bennett? DJ Williams hasn't been able to showcase his talent in a 3-4 defense? How much time has he played in a 3-4? I am not going to go any further. A waste of time, as was my time reading this article. Must have been up against a deadline and had to write something. I figure that as a slow news article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiantgiant Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/212314-...ed-to-re-locate Article on 10 Players in the NFL who could benefit from re-locating. Thoughts on the article....also what other players could benefit from a change of scenery in the NFL? This is to get some good discussion going...what do you agree with...what do you disagree with? The argument that Calvin Johnson doesn't get the ball enough is ridiculous. He got thrown at 151 times last season, fifth-most in the NFL (behind Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, and Larry Fitzgerald.) He wasn't a distant fifth, either: just 7 more passes would have made Johnson third in the league in targets. Even if you allow that premise for the sake of argument, the conclusion doesn't follow: if Johnson moved to a better offense, he'd probably get the ball LESS. The two examples in the article (the Saints and the Patriots) are both highly productive offenses, but that doesn't mean Johnson would be more productive in them. Both teams have good quarterbacks, sure, but they also have other good receivers. You can't make the argument that Johnson would get targeted on a larger percentage of passing plays if he were lining up opposite Randy Moss or Marques Colston than he will opposite Bryant Johnson/Ronald Curry. Honestly, the best thing for Johnson's statistics is to stay in an offense where he's the only option. Culpepper and Stafford will force the ball to him, and he'll get all the targets he could ever want. The point about Asomugha isn't much better: he, of all people, doesn't need help over the top. Oakland has done just fine leaving him to cover one-on-one without safety help. In fact, if you have the best corner in the NFL, a guy who shuts down his side of the field all by himself, and you're rolling safeties to his side, then you're wasting your safeties. The point that the author should have made about Nnamdi is that the Raiders need to use him as a matchup corner: they keep him on the left side no matter what, which means opposing offenses can just line up their best WR on the right. But that's not a way to make Nnamdi better, it's a way to make the Raiders' defense better. The part about Tyler Thigpen is a LITTLE more interesting. Thigpen did put up some decent numbers running a spread offense out of the Pistol set in Kansas City last season, but the Chiefs basically installed that offense out of necessity, in order to compensate for Thigpen's poor accuracy and inability to play from under center. Thigpen is not a starting-caliber QB for any existing NFL offense, simply because no NFL team runs a spread like the Chiefs did last season. The Chiefs don't even run that offense any more; their brass had a meeting to discuss whether they wanted to keep Thigpen and stick with the spread or return to a more traditional offense, which would entail getting a new QB. They chose the latter and acquired Matt Cassel. If some hypothetical team is going to adopt a Pistol or Shotgun spread as their base offense, however, then maybe you can talk about Thigpen as a starter. Even then, he wouldn't be great...if you extrapolate his numbers as a starter in that offense over a full 16 games, you get this stat line: 300 completions on 547 attempts (54.8%) for 3409 yards (6.3 YPA), 25 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, 76.8 passer rating Thigpen still has problems, even in a spread offense. He forces the ball into coverage constantly, he fumbles far too often, and last season he struggled to make his reads if Tony Gonzalez wasn't open. At the end of the day, it's hard to say he should move to another team: he's not going to find another NFL franchise willing to run the gimmick offense that best compensates for his considerable shortcomings, much less one with a Hall of Fame TE and a top-5 wide receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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