bradjock Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I didn't notice this when it happened but they were talking about it on the SCORE. I went back and watched it and Knox appears to be dropping/spiking the football simultaneously as he's crossing the goal line. There was no official close and the next closest player was a Bear. So it probably wouldn't have mattered, but still . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azbearsfan Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I didn't notice this when it happened but they were talking about it on the SCORE. I went back and watched it and Knox appears to be dropping/spiking the football simultaneously as he's crossing the goal line. There was no official close and the next closest player was a Bear. So it probably wouldn't have mattered, but still . . . Desean JAckson did this last year and it was called a fumble......cost me a fantasy win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 It's about impossible to tell on video. The angle is bad and I've watched it a few times and I still can't tell if he let it go before the TD or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 It isn't the best angle but I do believe he does let it go before he actually reaches the end zone. Albeit it's a split second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I know Knox got an earful because right after everyone congratulated him a coach was in his ear jawing at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I know Knox got an earful because right after everyone congratulated him a coach was in his ear jawing at him. I hope they rip him a new asshole in the film room. There's no room for this. Sure, the kid made a great play... But that doesn't mean he's allowed to be stupid. The vets ought to ream him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ya, I saw it right when it happened and was like oh shit, I hope they don't challenge this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfoligno Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Think about it as a best case life lesson. Often to truly learn a lesson, you have to first make a mistake. Knox made a mistake, but as it was not caught on game day, there were no negative consequences for the team. However, at least one coach saw it when it happened, and let Knox have it. Further, you can bet Knox will hear a lot more about it in film sessions and could get some punishment/hazing for it in practice too. Point is, he screwed up, and he will individually pay for it, but the team did not suffer as the refs didn't see it. I didn't notice this when it happened but they were talking about it on the SCORE. I went back and watched it and Knox appears to be dropping/spiking the football simultaneously as he's crossing the goal line. There was no official close and the next closest player was a Bear. So it probably wouldn't have mattered, but still . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Think about it as a best case life lesson. Often to truly learn a lesson, you have to first make a mistake. Knox made a mistake, but as it was not caught on game day, there were no negative consequences for the team. However, at least one coach saw it when it happened, and let Knox have it. Further, you can bet Knox will hear a lot more about it in film sessions and could get some punishment/hazing for it in practice too. Point is, he screwed up, and he will individually pay for it, but the team did not suffer as the refs didn't see it. Very well said NFO and as long as those lessons are driven home, I'm with you 100%. Also, there's actually a Youtube on this and you can see the ball as it drops hits the goal line. And he's dropping it from behind himself. So, although it's still REALLY stupid and should never happen again, I can't agree that it's completely clear that he fumbled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdL2nvzVXA I'm not sure you can drop the ball on the goal line from behind yourself and have it land on the goal line if you aren't already across the line. It's REAL close... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBearSox Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 the refs didn't see it. the refs were absolutely atrocious in that game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 the refs were absolutely atrocious in that game... Ya really. Also, Desean Jacksons was really blatant, like at the 3 yard line he started to drop. Either way, no room for the dumb shit, especially from a guy like Knox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balta1701-A Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ya really. Also, Desean Jacksons was really blatant, like at the 3 yard line he started to drop. Either way, no room for the dumb shit, especially from a guy like Knox. Obviously it's not an excuse, but he's a rookie. Hopefully...lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Very well said NFO and as long as those lessons are driven home, I'm with you 100%. Also, there's actually a Youtube on this and you can see the ball as it drops hits the goal line. And he's dropping it from behind himself. So, although it's still REALLY stupid and should never happen again, I can't agree that it's completely clear that he fumbled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdL2nvzVXA I'm not sure you can drop the ball on the goal line from behind yourself and have it land on the goal line if you aren't already across the line. It's REAL close... One could argue that physics allowed the ball to land just inside the end zone slightly ahead of where he let it go. Knox was running pretty fast (though decelerating as he got to the end zone but still going fast) and some of that forward momentum could have carried the ball forward. But that's splitting hairs mere trifles. At the end of the day it doesn't matter as the TD stood and he's well aware that what he did wasn't acceptable and I'm sure we won't see him do that again. I agree with nfo it's a best case lesson and one of the rare times we get away with one. Even had it been reviewed the angle may have made it difficult to conclusively say it was a fumble. But no one batted an eye as it happened because that's the last thing anyone expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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