April 21, 201015 yr comment_80026 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_...?urn=nfl,235522 Report
April 22, 201015 yr comment_80035 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_...?urn=nfl,235522 The thing that jumps out at me about that list: man, there are a lot of WRs and QBs. David Terrell and Rex Grossman aren't even the worst of them, not compared to guys like Mike Williams and Joey Harrington. Still, that trade that became Haynes/Grossman just looks awful in retrospect. The #4 overall pick that year could have been Kevin Williams, Terrell Suggs, Jordan Gross, Troy Polamalu...any of those guys would look pretty good in a Bears uniform right about now. Hell, even after the trade, Angelo did the wrong thing: if he hadn't dealt down from #13, the Bears could have had Ty Warren. Can you imagine Ty Warren and Tommie Harris as our interior d-line? And the pick they spent on Grossman could have been Nnamdi Asomugha. Peanut and Nnamdi would be one of the best cornerback tandems in the league. Instead, we picked a QB who had questions about his decisionmaking, consistency, and ability to handle pressure, then a DE who was just a product of the talent around him on the d-line (Jimmy Kennedy and Anthony Adams, who were both big-time college players and high draft picks.) Ugh. Report
April 22, 201015 yr comment_80036 That's a complete BS list. He doesn't mention a whole bunch of guys that could be listed over the same time period. Obviously, the guy is biased against some teams and not others. Notice most of his choices were from teams that were bad and he glosses over teams that did decently despite their draft busts. Here are a bunch of guys that were taken over the same time period in the top 25 picks of each year that he failed to list. (BTW - How do Mike Vick, Brady Quinn, and JP Losman stay off this list?) 2000 Courtney Brown Travis Taylor Ron Dayne Sylvester Morris Chris Hovan 2001 Mike Vick Gerrard Warren Rod Gardner Willie Middlebrooks Freddie Mitchell 2002 William Green TJ Duckett Ashley Lelie 2003 Jimmy Kennedy Kyle Boller 2004 Kenchi Udeze JP Losman 2005 Braylon Edwards Cedric Benson Cadillac Williams Jason Campbell 2006 Vince Young Micheal Huff Matt Leinart Laurence Marony 2007 Gaines Adams Brady Quinn Dewayne Bowe Report
April 22, 201015 yr comment_80041 The thing that jumps out at me about that list: man, there are a lot of WRs and QBs. David Terrell and Rex Grossman aren't even the worst of them, not compared to guys like Mike Williams and Joey Harrington. Still, that trade that became Haynes/Grossman just looks awful in retrospect. The #4 overall pick that year could have been Kevin Williams, Terrell Suggs, Jordan Gross, Troy Polamalu...any of those guys would look pretty good in a Bears uniform right about now. Hell, even after the trade, Angelo did the wrong thing: if he hadn't dealt down from #13, the Bears could have had Ty Warren. Can you imagine Ty Warren and Tommie Harris as our interior d-line? And the pick they spent on Grossman could have been Nnamdi Asomugha. Peanut and Nnamdi would be one of the best cornerback tandems in the league. Instead, we picked a QB who had questions about his decisionmaking, consistency, and ability to handle pressure, then a DE who was just a product of the talent around him on the d-line (Jimmy Kennedy and Anthony Adams, who were both big-time college players and high draft picks.) Ugh. I wanted Suggs, but his 40 time wasn't good enough for team, "Men in Shorts". Report
April 22, 201015 yr comment_80045 I wanted Suggs, but his 40 time wasn't good enough for team, "Men in Shorts". To be fair, there's no telling if he could have been an every-down DE in a 4-3. He's basically a nickel pass rusher when the Ravens go to a 40 front. But yeah, I would much rather have had Suggs than Haynes and Grossman put together. Report
April 22, 201015 yr Author comment_80052 I don't htink anyone is thining this guy's list is the end all be all list for busts. It's a conversation starter really. But, as with any media outlet, it can be skewed to present certain things a certain way. I do think you are a little liberal with your busts...for instance Hovan, Vick, B Edwards, D. Bowe... They didn't light it up, but they did contribute. And somethimes rather well. That's a complete BS list. He doesn't mention a whole bunch of guys that could be listed over the same time period. Obviously, the guy is biased against some teams and not others. Notice most of his choices were from teams that were bad and he glosses over teams that did decently despite their draft busts. Here are a bunch of guys that were taken over the same time period in the top 25 picks of each year that he failed to list. (BTW - How do Mike Vick, Brady Quinn, and JP Losman stay off this list?) 2000 Courtney Brown Travis Taylor Ron Dayne Sylvester Morris Chris Hovan 2001 Mike Vick Gerrard Warren Rod Gardner Willie Middlebrooks Freddie Mitchell 2002 William Green TJ Duckett Ashley Lelie 2003 Jimmy Kennedy Kyle Boller 2004 Kenchi Udeze JP Losman 2005 Braylon Edwards Cedric Benson Cadillac Williams Jason Campbell 2006 Vince Young Micheal Huff Matt Leinart Laurence Marony 2007 Gaines Adams Brady Quinn Dewayne Bowe Report
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