ParkerBear7
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That would be a great draft!
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I like to keep the roster current as possible but will add potential draft picks or FA to the team and see what impact they might have on the Bears if they were signed or drafted. I currently have DJ Hacket as a WR on the Bears and like what he brings.
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I would be happy with Brohm or Flacco with the @nd round but NOT Woodson unitl after rd 5 and still would shrug.
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I also agree with picking a back of in the draft between rounds 3-5
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I agree that he should not over spend on him but from what I have seen is that he is pretty physical and can cover well. Would challenge for starting time and i think he is a SS.
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Saftey is NOT an overly pressing need and we will go offensive players in the 3rd. Besides this is not a great year for saftey to go that high.
Obviously this is a work in progress but here is what I have been thinking in my spare time which I have not had much lately:
2008 Bears Draft List
Best available
Round Pick Player Target Position Priorty
1 14 Clady / Williams / Alberts OT very high
2 44 Brohm / Flacco / Thomas / Caldwell QB/WR high
3 75 K.Smith / Royal RB/WR very high
3 90 T. Hills / OG/OT high
4 106 M. Forte/ Woodard RB/SS medium
5 134 Simpson/Hubbard WR medium
6 173 Powell DT Depth
7 205 Stewart FB medium
Bold = projected available selection
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The Chicago Tribune is reporting that there is mutual interest between the Bears and RB Chris Brown. Brown had finished with 102 rushes for 462 yards and five touchdowns while playing behind LenDale White. He is currently visiting Houston. I am not really sure how I would feel about this if it went through. I am inclined to lean toward the draft for RB and would rather we use free agent money on an guard.
That would already surpass Benson production the last few years - sign Brown!
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I think this guy would be a good pick up played saftey for the Broncos and seems to have some good potential
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Extra points: Bears quarterbacks coach Pep Hamilton was part of a large contingent of pro coaches and scouts in San Diego this past Friday watching Josh Johnson, the University of San Diego quarterback. Johnson (6-3, 200) who struggled with his throws at the NFL Scouting Combine due to a back injury, was on point throwing on his home turf. Johnson first created as buzz by running the 40-yard dash in 4.55 seconds at combine, tops among quarterbacks. … Expect the Bears to be at Vanderbilt University March 21 to watch Commodore offensive tackle Chris Williams perform. He might be worthy of the Bears’ No. 14 overall pick.
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Your right. The value of their two picks equates to around the 8th pick. I thought that our 1st and 3rd might have been close, but even givng one of our 3rd back would not be equal. Nice thought though.
So more likely, as you said, would be to try for a teams 1st and 2nd round picks.
Just to be clear, I am reasoning why I think Angelo will trade down. That is not necessarily what I want to do.
For example, if Clady were to make it past the top 10, I would call it very likely Denver would take him ahead of us. Rather than trade down, I would actually trade up for Clady.
But assuming no Clady, it would simply depend on who is there. I also like the idea of simply staying put and taking Williams, though I think there is a pretty decent chance even he is gone. As much as stockpiling picks would be nice, at the same time, I think it the priority is getting top talent. I think Williams can be a great LT, and finding that player is as important (or more) than stockpiling picks.
I will also say this. If we trade down, one player I would really like to see us target is Albert. All pro caliber OG, w/ potential to move outside. He even finished the year at LT, and while he would need more time to develop there, does have the potential for the move.
I have said this in a previous post that I believe JA would like to trade down especially if the top 3 LT's are off the board and I agree that Alberts would be a good pick for us especially if we got an additional 2nd rounder would provide more flexibibilty to fill needs with out reaching.
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The one thing I would change if possible would be "no injuries" since that is impossible I would change to improve the OL; since the offense is the main issue holding the Bears back for competting for a SB!
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Like Eddie said, "I like where your head's at."
I'd like see us move Ogun for a 4th round pick (DE is a luxury position for us right now, and we can't really afford luxuries) and do something like this:
1) Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt
2) Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State
3) Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
3) Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
4) Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
4) Craig Steltz, S, LSU
5) Fernando Velasco, C/G, Georgia
6) Keilen Dykes, DT, West Virginia
7) Adam Bishop, TE, Nevada
7) Bryan Mattison, DE, Iowa
Its a luxury until a guy who had 12 sacks as a rookie to only 5 the next season or when the dreaded injury bug hits. The Bears can not afford to trade Ogun unless they get a quality proven player in return like Chad Johnson which would never happen.
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I also really hope Payne can make an impact this year.
My brother went to TC last year and said Riduea look pretty good has anyone seen anything from this WR to think he could help?
As far as Hass goes I do recall that incredible catch going out of bounds in pre-seaons and think he should battle for PT.
Does anyone have any info about the guys burried on the OL depth chart like M. Jone & T. Reed? Are they potential stater material?
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* Rookie Player Name # Pos HT WT College Exp Age
Fassitt, Greg 22 CB 5-11 186 Grambling 1 22
Graham, Corey 21 CB 6-0 195 New Hampshire 2 22
Jimoh, Ade 35 CB 6-1 187 Utah State 6 27 looked good on ST until injury
McBride, Trumaine 26 CB 5-9 185 Ole Miss 2 22 May make RMjr expendable
Anderson, Mark 97 DE 6-4 255 Alabama 3 24
Bazuin, Dan 73 DE 6-3 260 Central Michigan University 2 24
Frome, Chris 79 DE 6-4 260 Notre Dame 1 24
Adams, Anthony 95 DT 6-0 300 Penn State 6 27
Garay, Antonio 90 DT 6-4 303 Boston College 4 28
Idonije, Israel 71 DT 6-6 275 Manitoba 5 27
Kennedy, Jimmy 72 DT 6-4 320 Penn State 6 28
Oshinowo, Babatunde 70 DT 6-1 325 Stanford 1 25
Toeaina, Matt 75 DT 6-2 311 Oregon 1 23
Polite, Lousaka 39 FB 6-0 242 Pittsburgh 4 26
Runnels, J.D. 48 FB 5-11 240 Oklahoma 3 23
Jones, Mike 75 G 6-5 312 Iowa 1 22
Reed, Tyler 64 G 6-4 307 Penn State 1 25
Beekman, Josh 67 G/C 6-2 310 Boston College 2 24
St. Clair, John 78 T 6-5 315 Virginia 9 30 possible starter @ LOG?
McClover, Darrell 58 LB 6-1 226 Miami (FL) 5 26
Okwo, Michael 62 LB 5-11 232 Stanford 2 23
Roach, Nick 53 LB 6-0 234 Northwestern 1 22
Williams, Jamar 52 LB 6-0 237 Arizona State 3 23 should be as a good replacement for BA
Wilson, Rod 59 LB 6-2 230 South Carolina 3 26
Dvoracek, Dusty 98 NT 6-3 305 Oklahoma 3 25 still unproven but think he will make huge impact in '08
Hester, Devin 23 PR/KR 5-11 186 Miami 3 25 needs help to take pressure off learning new postion
Grossman, Rex 8 QB 6-1 217 Florida 6 27
Orton, Kyle 18 QB 6-4 217 Purdue 4 25
Benson, Cedric 32 RB 5-11 220 Texas 4 25
Peterson, Adrian 29 RB 5-10 210 Georgia Southern 7 28
Pope, P.J. 47 RB 5-9 212 Bowling Green 3 24
Wolfe, Garrett 25 RB 5-7 186 Northern Illinois 2 23
Gattis, Josh 43 S 6-1 207 Wake Forest 2 24
McGowan, Brandon 36 S 5-11 207 Maine 4 24
Payne, Kevin 44 S 6-0 212 Louisiana-Monroe 2 24
Peters, Leonard 45 S 6-1 199 Hawai'i 1 26
Mines, Fontel 89 TE 6-4 244 Virginia 1 23 looked interesting last year in preseason
Olsen, Greg 82 TE 6-5 254 Miami 2 22 Should build on solid rookie season
Bradley, Mark 16 WR 6-2 198 Oklahoma 4 26 If he plays 16 games?
Davis, Rashied 81 WR 5-9 187 San Jose State 4 28
Hass, Mike 83 WR 6-1 206 Oregon State 2 25
Rideau, Brandon 84 WR 6-3 200 Kansas 3 25
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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I think JA must address OL and WR help via FA to help take some pressure off in the draft; i.e. drafting need vs best player avaiable.
FA WR: Johnson or DJ Hackett would be good pick ups who can step in and play reight away.
RB: I prefer to take someone in this years draft
OL: I would be fine with allowing St. Clair compete at OG; I thought he played well in the short time he played gaurd
FA: not sure who is out there that is an upgrade and not another Fred Miller after 1 season
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BEars will not release AP and I hope they do not sign J. Jones unless that means Benson is gone
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Exactly, I have no problem when a GM knows what he is looking for talent wise and goes out and gets him. Quantity is not always better than quality as someone preveiosly mentioned. That extra 3rd pick could be huge and allow JA to do something like you are thinking. But depending who is available on draft day when the Bears are on the clock JA may covet some other players whom he thinks fits what they are looking for and move down to get them which I am okay as well but with all our needs I just hope they do their due diligence scounting players to make this team better. Lets face it this team does not have an offensive identity and JA can not afford to make any mistakes in this draft on that side of the ball.
The reason I posted the 2003 draft list is to point out that the Bears did a poor job of evaluating talent that year and possible reached for a need with Haynes and left some very good players on the board like Johnson, MaGahee and Palomula. I don't have a problem with drafting Grossman either. Really none of the other players that were avaiable after the 14th besides the previsouly metioned amounted to much.
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Greise, Arch, Manning
and Benson
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I agree with you as I would love to have Flacco in the 3rd and think JA will go OT & WR with first 2 picks. Colt in the late rounds would be a good project QB pickup. Beside the Bears just resigned thier former number 1 QB and have Orton so there is not a pressing need to take an unproven QB higher if there is another prospect that there is a higher grade on.
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I think were teams often get themselves into trouble is when they pass on best player avialable and reach for a need. A prudent GM will have a talented core of players under contract, use the draft to take the best availble or trade down to get the player they need at the right value. I have no problem if a GM trades up to get that "Franchise player" that has the potential to help that team complete for a SB i.e. I don't think Shannahan is particulary good at drafting but I was impressed when he traded up to get Jay Culter a few years ago! The other part of the equation is how well the Front Office evalutes talent and manages the roster.
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I certainly like what I saw on film of Alberts and would like him if we are able to move down in rd 1. He has LT talent.
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I think JA will do what he did 5 years ago when he traded down and got an extra pick when he Drafted Haynes & Grossman.
1 Cincinnati Bengals Carson Palmer Quarterback USC
2 Detroit Lions Charles Rogers Wide Receiver Michigan State
3 Houston Texans Andre Johnson Wide Receiver Miami (FL)
4 New York Jets (from Chicago) Dewayne Robertson Defensive Tackle Kentucky
5 Dallas Cowboys Terence Newman Cornerback Kansas State
6 New Orleans Saints (from Arizona) Johnathan Sullivan Defensive Tackle Georgia
7 Jacksonville Jaguars [5] Byron Leftwich Quarterback Marshall
8 Carolina Panthers [5] Jordan Gross Offensive Tackle Utah
9 Minnesota Vikings [5] Kevin Williams Defensive Tackle Oklahoma State
10 Baltimore Ravens Terrell Suggs Defensive End/Linebacker Arizona State
11 Seattle Seahawks Marcus Trufant Cornerback Washington State
12 St. Louis Rams Jimmy Kennedy Defensive Tackle Penn State
13 New England Patriots (from Washington through New York Jets and Chicago) Ty Warren Defensive End Texas A&M
14 Chicago Bears (from Buffalo through New England) Michael Haynes Defensive End Penn State
15 Philadelphia Eagles (from San Diego) Jerome McDougle Defensive End Miami (FL)
16 Pittsburgh Steelers (from Kansas City) Troy Polamalu Safety USC
17 Arizona Cardinals (from Miami through New Orleans) Bryant Johnson Wide Receiver Penn State
18 Arizona Cardinals (from New Orleans) Calvin Pace Defensive End Wake Forest
19 Baltimore Ravens (from New England) Kyle Boller Quarterback California
20 Denver Broncos George Foster Offensive Tackle Georgia
21 Cleveland Browns Jeff Faine Center Notre Dame
22 Chicago Bears (from New York Jets) Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida
23 Buffalo Bills (from Atlanta) Willis McGahee Running Back Miami (FL)
24 Indianapolis Colts Dallas Clark Tight End Iowa
25 New York Giants William Joseph Defensive Tackle Miami (FL)
26 San Francisco 49ers Kwame Harris Offensive Tackle Stanford
27 Kansas City Chiefs (from Pittsburgh) Larry Johnson Running Back Penn State
28 Tennessee Titans Andre Woolfolk Cornerback Oklahoma
29 Green Bay Packers Nick Barnett Linebacker Oregon State
30 San Diego Chargers (from Philadelphia) Sammy Davis Cornerback Texas A&M
31 Oakland Raiders Nnamdi Asomugha Cornerback California
32 Oakland Raiders (from Tampa Bay) [6] Tyler Brayton Defensive End Colorado
By the way, take note who the Bears missed out on at # 27 Larry Johnson -- if LJ was picked at #14 instead of Haynes we may have never been talking about BAD REX as he could have had one hell of a running game that might very well masked his inconsistent play.
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Deshawn Foster was just cut by the Panters -- any takers?
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I am simply stating that these guys will probably be drafted earlier than you have them going to the Bears.
Darrell Jackson
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I think we need to stock pile a few vet WR and would like to add Hackett and or Jackson which would give Rex/ Orton the most talent the BEARS may have ever had from a WR corps that I recall with OL & RB the final key ingrediaents for a chance to be a successful (multi-dimensional) offensive unit!