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My bad. I was thinking he was one of the later round draft picks, but do recall our adding him. While I agree he may be a sleeper, I do not believe he is a player we can count on when deciding what to do in the offseason.

The only problem with your idea there about a LG is... who? Mike Goff? I don't mind him as a solid RG, but him at LG could be a disaster, especially at his age. Plus, his play has been declining, which is expected when you are 32-33 and been in the league beating up your body for 10 years. Besides, there's a good chance San Diego retains him. The only 2 offensive linemen I like in free agency this year are Jordan Gross and Jahri Evans. However, Jordan Gross will likely sign a huge contract after his pro-bowl year this year. Also, after how well he played at LT, he will probably stay there for any new team he signs with. As for Jahri Evans, I'm a big fan of his, but he's an RFA, and depending on what type of tender he gets (if not a contract extension, which is likely), he'd likely cost us a 2nd rounder. However, he might be worth it, and he could easily slide into LG for us. He's only in his 3rd year though, so he might not be the type of guy you were thinking about. Besides those you mention, I also noticed Chris Kemoeatu, the starting LG for Pitt. He is a mauler at about 350lbs, and is still young, only 25 years old. Right now, the list of FA OGs is not great, but OG is one of those areas that seem to always get flooded w/ veteran cuts. And I do not mind an older LG. I will take a LG who has only a few years, because that gives us an opportunity to develop Williams, while also buying us time to add a young LG to develop. Also, while I do not have the list in front of me, I believe there are actually quite a few OTs due to hit FA, and many OT either have, or can, play inside. As for St. Clair, I'd love him back (possibly at LG), but you're right, a lot of teams need OLine, and if they can find a serviceably LT for a couple years, they might be willing to pay more for him then we might. The good thing is, as said above, there is a decent crop of OTs hitting FA this year, so the demand for him may not be as high as he would like. The alternative option might be to add a stud RT in FA. As I said, when I look at the list of FA OTs, there simply seems to be much more there. So maybe we get an upper tier RT, then draft early an OG. While I am not high on pairing Williams w/ a rookie, maybe there is something to be said about letting the two young OL develop together.

All possible. Let me say this though. If we do so little to upgrade at LG, I think we will be doing ourselves, and Williams, a huge dis-service. Beuning has zero experience. Beekman has started this year, and done better than many expected, but has been far from great and is not a player I would expect Williams to be able to lean on. I really think LG more than RG is where we need to upgrade right now. Then, at RG, we can allow Beuning, Beekman, Garza and whoever to compete. I think we will likely draft a RT, but not until day two. Thus, he is not likely to be ready to start. We need a swing tackle anyway, so I would like to see us re-sign St. Clair, but wonder if he won't have better options in FA.

Basically what you heard. There are some coaches who would view this week as basically a bye week. They would sit basically all their starters to avoid injury and give them a rest. Caughlin is not a coach like this. He said himself that he believes the final week carries over to the playoffs, and talked about how you want to be playing your best football heading into the post-season. He is going to play to win, and going to have his team ready to go. At the same time, he has several players who probably should have been resting already due to injury, but played because so much was still on the line. These players I think we should expect to see sitting. Unfortunately, a couple of these players who have been playing through injury are also some of their key players, like Jacobs and Tuck.

Just to throw it out there, but what if we added two OL in FA? In the last off-season, Angelo flat out said he isn't high on drafting OL because he feels OL is one of the areas that take longer to develop, thus you often are not getting value from the pick until several years later, while a vetreran brought in through FA provides immediate impact. Now, I am not saying I agree w/ this statement, but that is Angelo philosophy. IMHO, the only reason we drafted a LT this year was because we could not find options in FA. But I would be we look to FA first for the OL. I know you want to draft OL heavy, and I am with you, but I can also see our going after OL in FA, and then looking at other options in the draft. As much as I want OL in the draft, we have several other needs I view as near equal, w/ WR and FS being tops among them. W/ Williams projected to start at LT, I really want to add an upper tier veteran LG to play along side him. Not only would we upgrade the LG position, but I believe a veteran would enhance Williams at LT. Further, I wonder if an upgraded left side wouldn't benefit Kreutz as well. At the other OG slot, we could allow a competition between players currently on the roster. Then there is RT. I think Tait is done, but wonder if the staff will agree. At minimum, I would like to see us add a RT, whether in FA or the draft, to compete w/ Tait and/or develop to be ready to replace him. I also wonder how we will deal w/ St. Clair. While I do not like him as a starting LT, he has done better than expected. He is a FA after this season, and I wonder if his play this year will price him out for us.

2) Orton has two things to focus on this off season. First, he needs to be able to go through his progressions without locking onto his recievers. Second, is the deep ball. He's missed Hester I multitude of times. This causes more trouble than just losing the down, because until he starts hitting these the opposing D just sits in the box and dares him. Earlier in the year, I felt he excelled in reads and working through progressions, as well as looking off his receiver. But he seems to have done a 180. We need to figure out why he seems to have regressed, and work him back to the former form. As for the deep ball, I am of the opinion that, as much as anything, is a timing issue that simply needs more reps. I have no idea how often we practice w/ Orton throwing deep to Hester, but as rare as we see it in games, I question how much it is worked on in practice. Deep passes are among the most difficult, and require the most timing and chemistry between QB and WR. We need to really focus on practicing the deep ball to get Orton and Hester in cink. 3) There were plays that we line up 10 yards off the ball. I remember one play where Steltz turned his back to the LOS and was sprinting backwards before the ball snapped. He made it at least 25 yards down the field and a 20 yard pass was completed in the void he left. WTF was that? Also, agree with someone that said our LB's up close to the LOS and our DB's far back are not a good combo, as it creates instant reads and lanes for the QB and WR respectively. Agreed whole-heartedly. Enough of the fakes. It doesn't work. Just position guys where they need to be to make plays, rather than moving them around, forcing them to spend all their focus on trying to get back into position. Enough running backward. We need our guys moving forward. 4) I thought our DL played well enough, but would have like to see a couple of sack. I have said the same. I actually thought our DL was as active as I have seen them, but too often, we rushed 4 against their 6 or even 7, and that isn't going to get it done. 5) Danielle Manning has grown up. He is a f@cking animal returning kicks and coming off the corner. Now we just need him to learn how to give Rodgers whiplash instead of tha weak takedown. (It's a matter of timing and attitude ) Some on this board talked about how, as his confidence grew from the return game, it carried over to his nickel play. I had not noticed that before, but did last night. His play at corner, and not just in the blitz, has really improved. 6) Garza is the uncontested weakest link on our OL. If Williams knows the playbook, I'd start him there next week. Here I have to disagree. I am not a fan of Garza, and feel the only reason he is not called out more is due to how poorly the rest of the OL often looks, but w/ that said, I am not sure he is our weakest link. Against GB, I thought Tait looked the worst. But frankly, they all stunk. Often I saw the DEs beaten to the outside, when Orton would try to step up in the pocket, only to be engulfed by the DTs. So while I think the entire OL is bad, I just do not believe Garza is the weakest link. I think Tait has been our weakest link. 7) I know the field conditions were horrible, but Turner needs to call more than inside counters and traps. The Packers not only played 8 in the box most of the night, but is was a compressed box at that. A couple of counter tre's, sweeps and a reverse or two would have gone a long way towards softening up the the cluster f@ck in the middle of the field. Man, I just could not figure that one out. When we finally did toss it to Forte outside, and when Forte finally ran to the outside, it worked, but that only begged the question why we waited so long.

Agreed, but let me throw in another analogy. A pitcher has a particular pitch which is very effective, but he only uses it a couple times per game, and those times come against the opponents lesser hitters rather than against the teams top hitters. That's the thing. If we simply saw stunts on 3rd downs, that would be one thing, but it seems like we see stunts used in non big play downs. When it is 3rd and long, and we need a stop, I don't see stunts. I see stunts on 2nd down, only to see us go weak when we then have then in 3rd and long. Frustrating doesn't even begin to describe it.

To be honest, while I do not believe we would get JJ, I do not believe money would be the issue nearly so much. JJ would be too similar to Rivera in that (a) his system is so far from Lovie's and ( he would probably get too much credit, which seemed to threaten Lovie, IMHO.

I remember that play. Lloyd was quite open as well, but as you said, fell on his arce.

1) Turner still out-thinks himself. I called more Bears' plays before they happened than I care to mention. If I can do it, surely the other teams can do it. That's the major reason, IMHO, why the Bears offense is not scary. It's very rarely a surprise. The majority of the time when our offensive players do well, it's in spite of Turner, because the plays are very predictable. Early in the year I defended Turner, as I felt our offense was producing beyond their talent level, but as the season wore on and teams had a chance to watch film, adjustments were made against us, and yet we continue to do the exact same things. There is no creativity, and as you said, we are simply a totally predictable team. 1a) Playing AP makes no sense. Kevin Jones is active; let him get the carries when resting Forte. Not sure when, but KJ went down w/ an injury. 1b) Booker drop, Hester at least on drop. I am sick of this argument that the other WRs can't "crack the starting lineup". At a certain point, and it's well past that point, the offensive coordinator has to be blamed for not bringing in another player when the guy who is starting isn't doing the job. Conveniently enough, Bennett was active...but of course he wasn't used. You missed several drops. Booker, Lloyd and Clark each had a drop, w/ Bookers bouncing off his numbers. Hester had 3 drops, though one would have been a great catch and was far from a gimmie. Still, if it hits the mits, it should be caught. I agree, there is just no reason other WRs should not be getting an opportunity. 1c) The ball-fake, TD pass to Olsen, even though it was incredibly predictable, worked because there was fake handoff to the RB. This type of play-action doesn't happen enough. At one point there were several successful runs, and the GB defense was primed for a PAPass. Too bad Turner didn't see it. They replayed and pointed this out on TV too. The fake left froze the LBs, which created the opening for Olsen. It was great. I think Turner did see it though, but assumed they would adjust to it, so it wouldn't work again. Isn't that how his mind works. If it works once, they surely will adjust so it won't work again. THE DEFENSE 2) Speaking of doing something in spite of a coordinator, Babich is a moron. No argument so far He does things that work, then abandons them when the team needs them most. I think the same could be said of all our staff. He still doesn't understand that it's OK to step on another team's throat. He still doesn't understand that he needs to mix up the DLine play to get pressure (which it didn't - only pressure came via blitz). I will say this. I saw GB often keeping extra protection back, meaning they would have 6 or 7 to block our four. On many plays, I saw 2 or 3 of our DL getting double teamed. What Babich fails to understand is, when teams keep extra blockers back, you need to send extra rushers and not simply expect your front four to beat their 6 or 7. Another thing. I finally saw us stunt. Wale jumped over Harris to attack inside, while Harris took an outside move. GB's OL looked confused, and harris destroyed his man, forcing Rodgers to throw it away. It was beautiful, but I never saw it again. He still doesn't understand, for the life of me because I sure as hell called the play at least five times before it happened, that the opposing offense is going to abuse the slant route if the DB is eight yards back. Here is what kills me. We drop our DBs deep, but also put our LBs on the LOS, where they obviously just drop back on the snap. Normally, if you have a CB working well off the LOS, the WR might try to slant, but will also run into the LB. I am okay w/ that. But by combining the placement of LBs tight w/ CBs deep, we simply put both units in no mans land. It is a joke. Babich needs to be fired. Period. He completely mismanages the talent he has on defense, and leaves very good players in absolute voids during plays because of horrible design. Agreed 100% THE EXTRAS -I was going to go shirtless, but when wind chill got to -18, I called it off. Being cold is fine, cold weather injuries are not. I'd call you a wuss, but you have no idea the amount of layers I would have been wearing. I have to wear a winter coat when it drops below 60 degrees. -A guy next to me took two drinks of his beer, put it down, and the next time he grabbed it, half of the beer was frozen. Now that is some ice cold bear And hey, has your friend never heard of Beer pops? -I had 7 cups of hot chocolate, none of which were hot by the time I had the last drink. You needed a plastic flask to "enhance" the chocolate. -Johnny Jolly is a complete bitch. Several of us were ragging him in a friendly nature, telling him he was weak because he was practically having sex with the portable heaters near the bench (remember, two friends of mine were shirtless). He looks at us, and tauntingly waives us on to the field, as if we were allowed. After that, he starts to grab his crotch and mouth what appeared to be "freak you". Somewhere in the early third quarter, Jolly has a tantrum while leaving the field, and he throws his helmet. Of course it hit someone. Jolly didn't apologize. Then the pitiful team helper coat guy asks Jolly if he wants his coat. Jolly treats him like a king treats a peasant, waiving him away with a backhand movement. Later, when Orton threw an INT - which was not the result of pressure at all, just a bad read by Orton - Jolly comes back to the bench and yells into the crowd, "I don't hear you now!" Finally, after the Bears go down and score the tying TD, Jolly "suddenly" gets an "injury". WTFever. The only thing injured was his pride. He just didn't want to come back to his spot and face the thunder from a group of about, by then, 15 people ready to give him the business. All of this comes as no surprise to anyone who remembers this: Jolly meets the law Cool story. -My friends and I are at least partially responsible for the Mason Crosby miscues. We were yelling at him for the entire second half, and it unequivocally had an affect on him. You could tell he wanted to say something to us, but chose not to. But anyone being screamed at for 2 hours will get upset. It wasn't just random heckling; it was highly-focused, concentrated heckling. During time outs, when the Bears were on offense, when the Bears were on defense, when there were instant replays. He was facing the vocal barrage similar to what a young private faces in Basic Training; except, there were many more fans than there are drill sergeants. When he missed the first one, all you could hear was stuff like, "The High School kid made a 40 yarder at halftime!" and "If the Packers lose it's all on your shoulders!" One guy - who got a warning from security - told Crosby that he was going to "gut him" (obviously over the line). And when the Packers were moving into position for the final FG attempt in regulation, it was absolutely relentless. He made eye contact once or twice, and heard nothing but negativity spewing from our section of rowdy hecklers. There is no doubt in mind that we made an impact into his head, and we pulled off what was essentially a fan version of "icing the kicker". Great job. Next time, do you think you can get in Rodgers ear too?

Jim Johnson would be a dream come true. I salivate to think what he could do w/ our defense. I agree it is likely a pipe dream, but if Angelo forces Lovie to fire Babich, he may also force Lovie to hire a DC who is not a "Lovie guy". I want no part of Marinelli. I understand that you can be a great coordinator and fail as a HC, but (a) Marinelli has never proven himself as a coordinator, as he went from position coach to head coach, ( while he may not be to blame for all of Detroit's woes, I do question how bad Detroit has been on defense. If Marinelli is so good, should we not expect Det's D to be a tad better and © I just do not want another "lovie guy".

I wonder how much he talks to current players on the issue. We know many players go on his show, and other Score shows. I would bet Hampton has many off-air discussion w/ current players as well. While players may not call out the staff on air often, I bet they confide in a former player like Hampton more than we know. For me, it is a credibility thing. Do you believe Hampton is the sort to simply pull something out of his arce, w/o any amount of evidence? I just don't think he is that sort. He was very specific in calling out Babich. He wasn't just guessing Babich doesn't use motivational tactics, but flat out said he does not. So either you think Hampton of full of it, or you have to believe he has his sources, if not first hand knowledge.

- Not as cold as advertised. No wind so it was tolerable. We stood 95% of the game. That is a matter of opinion. Having lived in Texas for over 20 years, I think I would have been miserable. - Both Brad Maynard and Robbie Gould should be in the probowl. Some one needs to explain to me how they are not. As good as Gould has been, other kickers have been just as good, and w/ more opportunities. Maynard has been great pinning D's inside the 20, but too many voters are going to first look at a punters average, and due in large part to all those coffin kicks, Maynard is near the bottom of the league in average. But I do agree both are having solid season. - Dave Toub deserves a huge raise. Special teams is the reason we won tonight (although they almost lost it at the end of the game). Manning return, punt fumble recovery, Hester return, blocked kick. All of these plays were huge. I wonder how much longer we can hold on to him. - Rasheed Davis did not play on offense. Bennett actually got reps. I think Jason said Davis was on the field, but either way, Bennett did play. Question though. You can't tell from TV, but how did he look? No catches, but did he get off the LOS? Did he separate from coverage? Get open? If it was a run play, did you notice if he blocked? - Marty Booker: thanks for your great effort when you were here before but you need to go. Man was I wrong on that one. Your not the only one who was wrong. While I knew he lacked speed, I felt he would be a reliable option. Oops. - In 8 quarters, we did not sack Rodgers once. Manning did get some nice pressure on blitzes and did cause the int. Not to absolve the DL of blame, but I though GB often kept an extra blocker or two back, which means we most often sent 4 against 6 or even 7. Few DLs are going to win that battle. When an offense keeps extra blockers back, you send extra pass rushers. Not us. We stick w/ our 4 believing our 7 can cover all night. Babich just doesn't understand that, no matter how good your secondary is, if you don't pressure the QB, WRs will find holes, especially when you play a zone. - Kyle has to improve. I'm glad we did not sign him to an extension. Bring in a vet to compete for the starting job next yr. I think we are better off drafting a QB. We need long term answers, not more bandaids. - I love how Mike Brown hits but he is definately a step slower. We need a true free safety. I thought Brown had already been moved to SS. If not, he has played the role of SS. I agree we need a true FS, but I am not sure even our staff believe Brown is one anymore. He is a SS, and a solid one. - Olsen has stepped up big time. He and Clark are the best 1, 2 TE tandum in the league. While I agree, we really need Olsen to develop better as a blocker. He totally whiffed on a block that nearly got Orton killed. It was sad, as all he did was dive at the rushers feet. He needs to play to his size more. Clark is our best TE, while Olsen is our best receiver. We are going to have to play much, much better to beat Houston. The offense has to show up. No question. Houston has a very potent offense, and our defense will be hard pressed to stop them, especially against the pass. Houston does not have a very good defense, but the question is, can our offense take advantage?

Not as bad? How so? Lloyd may have looked good for a couple games, but now? Anytime I see him, he is blanketed, which shows an inability to get separation. And while he may not be the worst, did have a drop last night. I guess he is just trying to fit in w/ the other receivers. Hester has developed some, but is still not a good Wr. He too fails to get separation, which is shocking w/ his speed. And last night, he apparantly though he was Rashied Davis and dropped most anything coming his way. Booker simply is done. He can't get clean separation off the LOS, which used to be easy for him. His routes are rouned and he no longer is sure handed. Last night, the damn ball bounced off his numbers. Davis has been dropping more balls than he has caught. Bennett? Who knows. This group is flat out awful. Now, we can't just replace everyone, and if we added a stud WR, some might look better, but I think this may be the worst WR group in the entire NFL.

Hey, you deserve a bit of grief. And as for the relatives, they deserve it for being dumb enough to answer the phone

Everytime they showed someone without a shirt on I was trying to figure out if it was you. So you only know Jason w/ his shirt off? Um, I think that falls under the TMI category:) In that group there was a guy holding up a sign for Hester with an arrow pointing towards the right.... That was one of the greatest signs I have ever seen. As Hester did run forward, maybe he saw the sign too.

Man, you have more excuses than Bear88 does for Rex Just kidding 88.

And then, when I do get to see a game.... Well, maybe if you stayed up past your bedtime to watch the 2nd half....

Nice pic. I'm going to the game this Sunday. I do not believe however I should expect it to be as cold. Last time I checked, I think it was supposed to be in the upper 60s or lower 70s. My key hope is for rain. The stadium roof is still broken from the hurricane, and can not be closed. As I don't think we can stop Andre Johnson, maybe a slippery surface can:)

I am not in the lockeroom, in practices, or even in the same state for that matter. Nor do I have inside sources or contacts. So I can only go off what I read, see and hear. Do you listen to the Score? I love listening to Hampton in particular, not only due to his being a Bear great, but simply due to the insight he provides. A couple weeks agao, Hub (the favorite of the board:)) wanted to address the question of how much a coach actually can inspire players on game day. In Hubs opinion, coaches do little to nothing to inspire players, and it is really all about the players. Hampton said coaches can do little to inspire players on game day, but went on to state that coaches do inspire players throughout the week. He talked about when he was a player, and how Buddy began "working up" the players on Tuesday, and built on that throughout the week. He talked about many things Buddy would do, like: using comments other teams would make, showing film everyday of prior games (especially if there was a prior game w/ that same team) and how poor they may have played on a particular down, calling players out during practice, and just overall, lighting a fire under them. Hampton said that if you do not do this throughout the week, there is little that can be done on game day. Either the fire is there by that point, or it is not. He went on to talk about how Rivera did this a lot, using many of the same methods learned under Buddy Ryan. He then went on to talk about how Babich simply does not do this. Hampton said Babich simply does not use motivational techniques during the week to fire up the team. Now, you can say, "how does Hampton know, as he is not a member of the team anymore". That may be true, but I would argue he talks to players everyday, on and off the air, and is in a better position to know than I. Further, I am not sure Hampton is someone to make statements like that w/o any sort of knowledge. Again, this does not excuse veterans. But I simply feel there is more to the coaching aspect then what some want to believe.

I might still apply "flourish" to Bradley and Gage, though I would not Wade. Gage's best season w/ us was 350 yards and 2 scores. He was a depth chart WR who could be used for a few plays, but was never seen as an every down starter. W/ Tenn, he has become not only an everydown starter, but the team's #1 WR. No, he isn't a pro bowler, but he has "flourished" w/ another team. Just just look at his current stats, but compare what he has done and become w/ what he did and was for us. The body of work to view is less w/ Bradley, but again, I would say he has flourished w/ another team. For us, he was a WR who was not even thought enough of to get on the field. He goes to KC and becomes an instant starter, and while injuries have once again hurt him, he has simply been a far better, and more productive, player for KC than he was for us. Neither are great players, but when you compare what they have gone on to do w/ what they did for us, I think there is a great enough level of difference to use the term flourish.

Not a chance. While some locals may say Lovie has done well, I think there are too many others who have so exceeded expectations that it is not even funny. Miami was what, a 1 win team, and are primed to win their division. Atlanta was starting a rookie QB, and an after-thought, but have already locked up a playoff spot. Billichek will get more talk IMHO, as he lost his league MVP and still done well w/ a guy who has not started a football game since highschool. And Fisher too will get a lot of consideration. Tenn didn't have great expectations, but hvae been so dominant (w/ questionable amount of talent). My vote would be for the Atlanta coach, w/ the Miami coach a VERY close 2nd. The only reason Atlanta gets it over Miami is due to starting a rookie QB, while Miami traded for a veteran (Pennington).

I have no problem calling out the veterans for a lack of fire or leadership, but I do have a problem w/ not also pointing the finger at the coaches. Has it not always been the job of the coaches to have the players ready to play? Spread the blame around. Fine. But do not absolve the coaches of something that is w/o question part of their job. I am glad Lovie gave an nice half time speech, but I too have to wonder how a coach can allow the team to enter the game so flat.

Maybe all three are average WRs, but were they even average on our team? Bradley could not get on the field, and when he did, you didn't know it. He goes to KC, and immediately becomes a productive WR. You are looking at his overall stats, but he has only played a 1/2 season w/ KC, and didn't arrive in KC until after the season began. Gage - Injuries have limited him, and he is not likely to have huge stats on a team that can run for 150-200 yards a game anyway, but he has been very productive for them. He has more yards than any of our WRs, and only two fewer TDs than all of our WRs combined. Wade - Far from great, but again, no one is saying he is, but simply pointing out that WRs leave Chicago and become more productive elsewhere.

Totally and unconditionally agree. There are way too many that are willing to blame Lovie for all that ails the Bears. I have said and still say that Turner needs to go. He has not been able to do much with what he has. Lovie was hired with the understanding that he is a Defensive minded coach. The Bears are going to end up with another winning record...like it or not. Kinda hard to disapprove of that result and find someone else better. I think if someone, offensive minded, were brought in from the college ranks then things could turn around on the Offensive side. Who??? I admit I don't know who, but again someone who is offensively aggressive and will get away from that stinkin' dink and dunk West Coast Offense. I basically agree w/ the above, but who hired Turner? Further, and in terms of development, who hired the position coaches? The position coaches are more crucial to a player developing than that OC. Lovie is in charge of all these guys, and as such, as to accept blame for their lack of development. That being said....Will the McCaskey's go out and pay top dollar for someone like Cassel? He knows cold weather and will be available next year. My concern is instead, they (The Bears), will go for someone like Culpepper or McNabb. Cassell is the popular kid in the hall right now, but I question going after him. Sorry, but he is currently in a great situation, and as such, I just question how good he is. He has a great OL. He has great receivers in Moss and Welker. And he has one of the best (if not the best) coaching staffs in the NFL. I am not taking away from Cassel for what he has done this year, but I think there is a huge question mark on him for next year, w/ a new team. Lastly and regarding Offensive talent. Something tells me that when Grossman goes to his new team...wherever that may be...and if he gets a decent Offensive Coordinator that gets into his mind and helps him stop flinching....watch out. I predict Grossman will be Pro Bowl bound if all this comes to fruition. I simply don't see it. There are things I think can be taught and things that, if they are not there by now, are not going to be. Rex has the arm and talent overall, but I just do not think he has, or will ever have, the head. Now, if he goes to a team w/ an all-pro OL and surrounding talent, sure, he could look great, but so could most. I just question whether Rex will ever play well when under pressure.