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Talk about major YAC. Jeffery is one of the more physical runners after the catch in college football. Brandon Marshall is probably the best in all of the NFL in terms of running after the catch. Two huge Redzone targets. What's that noise I hear? Oh that's just the collective groan from all NFC North teams after this pick.

Woot! Good pick by Bears. I would have preferred Randle but I'm okay with this. Now go get an OL and a CB.

Freaking Jets trade up to take Hill.. Bears should have dealt a pick to move up to get him.

I'm not talking about the kid, I'm talking about Emery bringing up McClellin's special teams skills as if they expected him to play special teams after being picked 19th overall in the NFL Draft or that it actually meant something in the evaluation process.

One thing I NEVER want to hear out of a GM's mouth when talking about a 1st round pick is that they are a great special teams player. I know it was somewhat of a throwaway comment but come on. We're really going to spend time on a guys special teams skills with the 19th pick in the NFL draft? He should be a guy that starts from day 1 of the draft and makes an immediate impact. The Hub comments were interesting. I generally pay no mind to what he has to say but I can't help but agree with him on his comments about McClellin. He mentioned that a source close to the organization told him he thinks they envision McClellin actually as more of an inside LB in a 3-4 as opposed to playing on the outside. I found that particularly interesting. I personally believe that Emery is confident that Shea can play DE in a 4-3 scheme but I think he's more confident that he will be better served in a 3-4 scheme. It's food for thought.

Oh for the love of god First of all, unless your brain is wired differently than a normal human being, it's physically impossible to avoid noticing the most evident physical trait on the human body. Using race to determine whether or not someone is capable of playing football is dumb and meaningless. If that's what you think I'm doing, then I suggest enrolling to the reading comprehension school for the dumb. Secondly, you clearly have no idea what racism is. The definition of racism comes from carrying out acts of hatred and bigotry due to belief in superiority of one race over another. Clearly that's exactly what I've done. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming..

The fact of the matter is, when comparing against other players, ethnicity is the first thing people take note of, and whether they like it or not it immediately brings to mind other players of similar background. That is just how the brain works with association and that's all I've been trying to say. Now if people want to bring up this nonsense about racism or what have you, I'd tell them to go kick rocks and that they have no idea what the definition of that word means.

My board: Stephen Hill Reuben Randle Alshon Jeffery Brian Quick *Trade up for an extra 2nd rounder* and take Jeff Allen I want a WR in one of these next two rounds. I'd prefer round 2 because then all the talent starts to drop off. I assume most of these receivers are going to start dropping like flies in the 2nd. You might be able to get Jaron Criner or Dwight Jones in the 3rd, but those guys aren't the prospects of the 4 that I listed above. Also, anyone think Janoris Jenkins should be under consideration here? I'm not sure. I'm leaning towards no.

AND......? Come on now, lets not play dumb. If that was the reason, why aren't experts comparing Larry to Kevin Durant? He's a long guy that can shoot and can make plays, plays the same position, shoots FT's at a high %. We are pretending like this sort of thing doesn't happen but it does all the time, in the sport's world.

Well, Emery certainly knows a lot more about scouting than I do, so there's hope after all. But seeing how we are all able to voice are opinions about what we see and can analyze, I just don't like the pick, considering all the other options that were available. I hope he turns out, for Emery's sake and the Bears. 1st round busts is the quickest way to getting yourself fired. He better be sure.

A lot of people now are drawing comparisons from Dirk Nowitzki to Larry Bird. Why do you think that is?

Sure, you could do that. But that wouldn't be my initial thought. People are blowing this whole thing out of epic proportions. I'm not saying you can't compare racial backgrounds between players, but the normal reaction to a question of "who does this guy remind you of" would be to first think of someone that share those same backgrounds.

There is no race discussion. Let's not overreact. I don't have time for people not smart enough to understand the context of the question. Apologies if there was any offense taken with my comments. Didn't think they needed an explanation being as they were quite innocuous.

There is nothing ignorant with what I said. The question called for a comparison. You wouldn't associate Brian Urlacher to Ray Lewis when someone asks you who he reminds you of would you? No. You are more likely to compare Urlacher to another white MLB with similar skill sets. In basketball, you wouldn't associate a player Steve Nash to Rajon Rondo even though both players share similar court vision on the floor and are able to make incredible passes. You would be more likely to compare Steve Nash to John Stockton because of the obvious. That's all. No harm no foul. Of course there is. But there is also legit concern over Shea McClellin. Even more so considering he was being touted by mostly 3-4 teams, regardless of whether or not he played DE for Boise State. That happens all the time. The rarity is taking an OLB and converting him into a DE. He got better? He was given more opportunities to play and had only 2 starts his sophomore season. It's highly highly unlikely that he goes from a 16 sack season to 1, assuming he was injury free. 16 probably wouldn't happen again, but only 1? That's extremely hard to imagine. Don't lose sight of what we are comparing here. We aren't comparing Whitney Mercilus competition to Michael Brockers, Courtney Upshaw or some other SEC school. You seem to casually dismiss the points that I'm making by beating around the bush. As I mentioned, 7 of Mercilus' 16 sacks came from quality competition. His sample size is small, but so is Shea McClellin's when you factor in the quality of opponent.

Because Dan Bazuin is white, why would I associate a black guy to Dan Bazuin? Mercilus lead the FBS in total sacks and forced fumbles in a much tougher conference than the Mountain West. You don't just wake up one day and record 16 sacks and force 9 fumbles because you're lucky. Mercilus is a 3 year player, McClellin played 4 years and recorded a grand total of 2 more sacks. Who's to say Mercilus wouldn't have put up another double digit sack total if he had stayed another year? Hmm Lets compare the two conferences for a second. Big Ten University of Michigan Northwestern University University of Minnesota The Ohio State University Purdue University University of Wisconsin The Pennsylvania State University University of Illinois Indiana University Michigan State University University of Nebraska University of Iowa Mountain West Conference United States Air Force Academy Boise State University Colorado State University University of Nevada University of New Mexico San Diego State University Texas Christian University University of Wyoming Remind me again who plays in the tougher conference? It's not like Whitney only beat up on bad teams, he produced against both. 7 of his 16 sacks came from Ohio State, Penn State, Arizona State, Michigan, and Wisconsin. That's almost half his sack total from the year coming against good competition. 2 were in the BCS. McClellin didn't play but a small handful of quality teams in the past two seasons. Keep in mind how many games ended in blowouts which puts any pass rusher in the most ideal situation possible.

No because they are all black More like Chandler Jones, who has the frame to put on weight, but I'd take Mercilus. At least he played in the Big 10 and not a school that dominates it's competition by playing the North Dakota States of the world.

+1 Would be thrilled if that was our 2nd round although, I'd rather have Jeff Allen and Randle, but I could settle for that.

Jared Allen is 6'6, McClellin is 6'3. That's a HUGE difference. At least Allen is tall enough to be able to tip passes when he can't get to the QB. McClellin will not be able to do this as easy. He's got an awful lot of obstacles going against him to succeed. He's playing out of position, he's not tall, and he's not big. Motor only gets you so far. I worry about the talent side of it, which is why I hate the pick for a 4-3 defense. I'd love it if we had switched to a 3-4 and we used this pick to start bringing in guys that fit that system... I don't see how McClellin fits this system.

Shea McClellin is NOT the eventual replacement to Urlacher when he retires. I do not want Shea McClellin dropping back in pass coverage every play, which brings him a step further from reaching the quarterback. He is a pass rusher first and a pass rusher second. He does not have the skill required to be a MLB. His best position would be whatever Clay Matthews plays for the Packers, OLB in a 3-4. That way, he can use the speed to his advantage by getting a head start on OL and doesn't have to get mauled against run plays where he's going to be asked to shed blocks. The only logical reasoning behind this pick as I've said is that Emery plans to change schemes after he fires Lovie next year and moves the kid to OLB. After a day's rest of trying to cool some steam, I still hate the pick. It may be unfair to the kid but I'm always going to think of Dan Bazuin or Nick Reed the first time I see him on the field, and until he proves me wrong, that's the way I'm going to think of him. Hopefully Game 1 of the season he winds up with 3 sacks and a forced fumble and I can forgive Emery.

Hill should be the first receiver to go early in round 2, probably the first pick in the 2nd round. Randle has a chance to fall but maybe not. After those two, then you've got Alshon Jeffery, Brian Quick, Jaron Criner, Dwight Jones, Mohamed Sanu, and Ryan Broyles basically as your options in rounds 2 and 3.

Dallas had the best draft by moving up to get Claiborne without giving up that much. Now they have two stud CB's in a Rob Ryan defensive system. Scary.

I'm betting they go DT but I'd rather them go WR or OT. Jeff Allen is a guy that might be there, but If Rueben Randle is there, I'm taking him. I think Stephen Hill is going to be the 1st pick in the 2nd round, otherwise he'd certainly be at the top of my list. Rams screwed up the draft by not getting Blackmon or Floyd and had to settle for Brockers.

Phill Emery said McClellin was #1 out of the 7 players they had targeted... Makes sense that they had interest in Irvin if they wanted McClellin. Both undersized players that are better off in 3-4 schemes. If we're going to use this kid, I'd like to see a little hybrid defense installed by the Bears next year. I know it would never happen with Lovie as the coach but why on earth would you not use McClellin as a stand up rush LB in certain situations? A little 3-4 mix up every once in a while would be something unique and intriguing to watch. Peppers would be more than capable of standing up too. Creates a lot of confusion for teams.

I would love to see Randle fall to us.

Was Matthews bench press reps recorded before or after steroids/HGH? I assume it's the former