April 24, 201510 yr comment_147536 We all know the inherent flaws to this concept, but it's an interesting test nonetheless. I ran three what-if mocks (two of which are previous threads) through the process. Fanspeak draft where Leonard Williams falls 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, 3 = +4 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, 51 = -12, total -8 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, 103 = -32, total -40 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, 115 = -9, total -49 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, 99 = +43, total -6 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, 140 = +42, total +36 So we gain a 5th rounder. Talksbears attempt to agree mock 1(20)- MALCOLM BROWN, DT, 22 = -2 2(39)- DEVIN SMITH, WR, Ohio State, 47 = -8, total -10 2(52)- LAKEN TOMLINSON, OG, Duke, 48 = +4, total -6 3(71)-DAVID COBB, RB, Minnesota, 107 = -36, total -42 4(106)-KURTIS DRUMMOND, FS, Mich. St., 141 = -35, total - 77 5(142)-ZA'DARIUS SMITH, OLB, Kentucky, 102 = +40, total -37 6(182)-CODY FAJARDO, QB, Nevada, 239 = -57, total -94 So we lose a 4th rounder. My final mock, where Williams falls (I really think this will happen) 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, 3 = +4 (Starts at DE immediately. ) 2(39)- , WR, 32 = +7, total +11 (Feels like another Moss to me) 3(71)-HRONISS GRASU, C, 60 = +11, total +22 (Leader of the OL, great mobility, starts for a decade) 4(106)- , T, 115 = -9, total +13 (Monster. Locks down RT and lets Long stay inside for multiple pro-bowls, fits with the new run-first philosophy) 5(142)-JACOBY GLENN, CB, 169 = -27, total -14 (Great hands, good anticipation, great drive on the ball) 6(182)- , ILB, 195 = -17, total -31 (Tackling machine. Good gap discipline. Leader. Great motor.) So we lose a 5th rounder, and I couldn't care less. That would be an outstanding draft. I'd like a FS, but none really seem to fall where the Bears pick & I don't want to reach. Report
April 24, 201510 yr comment_147538 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Report
April 24, 201510 yr Author comment_147539 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Ahhhh...you are doing the points, and not the position. I didn't even realize that after you replied. Report
April 24, 201510 yr comment_147540 For this one: 1(20)- MALCOLM BROWN, DT, -70 2(39)- DEVIN SMITH, WR, Ohio State, -80 2(52)- LAKEN TOMLINSON, OG, Duke, +40 3(71)-DAVID COBB, RB, Minnesota, -155 4(106)-KURTIS DRUMMOND, FS, Mich. St., -46.5 5(142)-ZA'DARIUS SMITH, OLB, Kentucky, +57 6(182)-CODY FAJARDO, QB, Nevada, -18.6 TOTAL: -273.1 (equivalent to losing a late 2nd rounder #64) Even after gaining picks, most of the selections are reaches (especially Cobb in the 3rd). Report
April 24, 201510 yr comment_147541 For this one: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM, WR, +80 3(71)-HRONISS GRASU, C, +65 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-JACOBY GLEN, CB, -11.2 6(182)-JAKE RYAN, ILB, -3.2 TOTAL: +812.6 (equivalent to gaining a 1st round pick #21) This would be an insane draft. DL Starter for next decade with Pro Bowl potential, WR threat to compliment AJ, two starters on OLine for next decade, a decent CB and one of my favorite players in the draft at ILB. Report
April 24, 201510 yr comment_147542 This is how I scored it based on my value based scoring system: 1(7)-LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, +700 2(39)-BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, ILB, -120 3(71)-DERRON SMITH, S, -147 4(106)-ROB HAVENSTEIN, T, -18 5(142)-IFO EXPRE-OLOMU, CB, +69 6(182)-SEAN MANNION, QB, +17.4 TOTAL: +501.4 (equivalent to gaining a 2nd rounder #40) Since the first round movement is worth much more, getting Williams at #7 would be like getting pick #26 (700 pts). Fans peaks mock would be incredible if Mckinney was switched out with either DGB or Devon smith.... if one of those two were selected I would be the happiest I've ever been after a draft.... I remember the draft we chose Benson at 4th overall I was so completely pissed I broke the TV remote... Report
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