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yeah our picks throughout that period and in years before and after have been mostly atrocious. So Im just saying, I don't take Greg Gabriel's clickbait as "evidence" If someone wants to say a player is good or bad for a REASON that makes excellent discussions, and I always learn something in those. But to just say "well Brugler and Gabriel say..." is not a discussion, it's just a brick wall that kills the discussion. It's been extremely quiet here, unfortunately.

He was our first pick that year. I felt Angelo was doing great until the Bears found success and some how they got lazy and cute drafting. They never had luck drafting offensive line though. I hope that page is turning

Oh for sure, I absolutely trust our Coaches and Scouts now much much more. And yes, youre right Gilbert WAS a third rounder - Ill edit that.

We only have one year of the combo Poles -BJ draft expertise but the first year was a win win success. I still think other draftees could be solid contribters going forward. Not all rookies develop at the same timeline. I think King got promoted because of his input into the draft system. It will remain to be seen what effect Ian leaving has on the process. I think AZ had the best take on Gabriel, a part of the old boys network that is not aging well. I personally like him because we have talked on X DM with him and he's a down to earth say it like it is person. Of course he's not always right but I like the history he had with the bears and loyalty to the team being a born and bread Buffalo guy.

Gilbert was a 3rd round pick. They drafted some studs fell apart when I felt Lovie got power. The Bears were a perennial playoff team, we just scratched that surface. I feel pretty good with the direction the Bears are heading but we will see if BJ fills in for the loss of Cuningham

Actually Turner and Newman were reported on Reddit to have visits. I not trying to die on the hill that Greg is always right, I have a tendency to trust pundits that still have ties to the NFL. If he gets bad information of course he probably shouldn't reported it. No one hits every take.

I even question Gabriel's abilities as a scout. He was with the Bears from 2002 until 2009. He was part of a pretty dysfunctional scouting department. Here are all the first, second and third round picks we made during those years. yes there are a few names, but maybe only one that would be worth a mid round first round pick. And LOTS of misses, which is why he and they got fired. For example, they scouted that Hester would be good as a DB. And SO many busts on this list. There was a time on this board where people could discuss their opinions about players, but now whenever anyone does, they get shut down with quotes about how their opinion isnt in lock step with some "expert" or "pundit" - so now we just get regurgitated narratives, and we cant really even discuss our own opinions. That's why the board is slow. We are all being told to bow to someone else. I'll bet most of us have found other boards now too. I know I have. First Round OT Marc Colombo DE Michael Haynes QB Rex Grossman DT Tommie Harris RB Cedric Benson DB Danieal Manning TE Greg Olson OT Chris Williams Second Round CB Charles Tillman DT Tank Johnson WR Mark Bradley DB Devin Hester DE Dan Bauzin RB Matt Forte WR Juaquin Iglesias Third Round OG Terrence Metcalf LB Lance Briggs WR Bernard Berrian DT Dusty Dvoracek RB Garrett Wolfe LB MIchael Okwo WR Earl Bennett DT Marcus Harrison DT Jarron Gilbert

Yes. Greg Gabriel isn't the insider he paints himself to be.

That’s fine, I just think he’s demonstrably wrong about the visit thing. The only ones we know did are Hyppolite and Frazier based on post draft comments. Can’t seem to find one way or another with Trapilo, Turner, or Newman but: Loveland says he’s never been to Halas Hall during the Bears 1920 post draft video (at 8:35) Here’s the post draft media conference call where Burden says the Bears didn’t really talk to him much prior to the draft (which suggests to me the didn’t bring him in for a visit) - it’s at 4:15: Monongai says his only pre-draft interactions with the Bears was an informal at the combine and maybe a call during the process (at 0:50):

I never researched it and it doesn't really matter to me anyways but Greg still has friends working in the NFL and player agents contacts. That's more input than most bears pundits.

I’ve seen people say that all the players drafted had come in for a 30 visit (like Greg Gabriel) but I’m pretty sure that’s not true. If you watch the post-draft video from last year, Loveland pretty clearly says he’s never been to the Bears facility. I’m pretty sure Burden, Trapilo, and Turner didn’t visit either even though they met with those guys at the combine/senior bowl I think.

I think we are taking LT, Edge and Safety early. I would not be at all shocked if the Bears took a Left Tackle @ 25, and then an Edge like Dani Dennis-Sutton and a Safety. After that, it could go on the DL, CB, or even WR. Guys like Bryce Lance, and DeZhaun Stribling could be hanging around the 3rd or 4th round. Also, if the right player is there at DT, even at pick 25, thats certainly an option. A guy like Peter Woods might be a Bear choice there. Personally, I dont see Zion Young for us. I didn't like his tape at all. I know the pundits look at his measurables and DA's scheme and connect dots, but he's not a great player on tape, and hes not worth pick 25 for sure in my opinion. Id take guys over him in the second round too. I'm kind of expecting: OT Max Iheanachor or OT Caleb Lomu with pick 25 In the second round: Edge Gabe Jacas (if hes still there) or Edge Dani Dennis-Sutton (or another Edge that falls like Malachai Lawerence or Derrick Moore) Safety AJ Haulcy or Safety Emmanuel McNeil-Warren In the third and fourth rounds: DT Gracen Halton or Edge Mason Reiger WR Bryce Lance or WR DeZhaun Strribling S Bud Clark (if we didnt take one in the 2nd round) If a center falls like Hecht, Connor Lew And then CB, blocking TE, LB, DL, a C like Trey Zuhn, and even a late pick developmental QB.

This the way I look at it. They brought in DTs, LBers, LTs and one starting Safety. Also added a WR with Walker expected to contribute. No DE. They have to find a starting S , otherwise we have players everywhere else. I think they bring a S maybe two, a DE and DT. Could be any other positions applying the BPA theory. My preference, trade back from 25 5 to 10 spots and get an extra top 100 pick. In any order they have their board laid out. Jacas , Parker , Young, D- Sutton , Lawrence, Moore. DE Stukes , Kilgore, Ramsey, Bud Clark. Payne S Miller, Halton, Benny, Proctor, Capehart DT Parker, Slaughter, Jones, Hecht, Kuhn C Tienen, Shelton, Bowery JC Davis LT Hill, Trotter, Louis, Perkins, Boettcher, Rolder LB Tacario Davis, Muhammad, Neal, Demming CB These are players that could fit our scheme. IMO

For last year it was stated by a few pundits that everyone we drafted, we had a visit with. If true some were not reported and keep quiet, maybe by design. The OL coach stated in an interview that some prospects were brought in because they had questions. The answer could be not to draft them. They can have local and regional players in and not have to report. Some prospects that come in could be told not to mention. When they draft then we can follow up to see if came in for a visit. Poles is good at keeping secrets. That's why I never believe anyone has inside information. I think people just guessing.

He will surprise me if he takes a CB or LB at 25. I would expect S, DE, DT and even LT. We could upgrade any position but QB and IOL with the first pick but some spots carry more expectations. As long as we add a DT, DE and S , adding anything else is okay with me.

Boredom.... What player or position will shock you for the Bears to draft. I was shocked about Loveland. Seen a few posts on here about him, but was shocked to see him taken so high. That proved me wrong.

The more I look at this list and the guys I see mocked to the Bears, it’s hard for me to believe they would draft either Caleb Banks or Peter Woods without bringing them in for a visit given questions about their motor and productivity. Maybe they did and kept it quiet I guess.

Lucky guy, until he has to face his wife.

Glad we didn't get Vrabel. 👀

If there is a guy they believe will be a blue chip player regardless who is already signed, you do it. There are 3 or 4 LBs that could be there Hill, Rodriguez, Trotter that would become team captains when you are transforming the whole defense, its as good as a time to bring that voice in. They filled DT in FA, so they may not draft one. CB, WR, RB, and C all have players too but yes depth and upgrades should be considered. The Bears can go anywhere position wise and that is what keeps us confused trying to predict outcomes.

If they draft a Urlacker type LB, I m all in but who is that? Edwards will probably be gone after this year but Demarco Jackson is probably his replacement to go with Bush. Every year we should draft every position but we don't have enough picks for that. I think 1 DE, 1 DT , 1 S, 1 CB, 1 WR, 1 RB, and a C . If we get extra picks, then a LB will be addressed but I don't think it will be a priority in this draft. Hyppolite is counted on to improve, if not then we draft another one.

Drafting Trotter, Edwards or whoever is expenable. He will be your Singletary or Urlacher of 2026 and beyond.

Their are several available and most are third round and latter. He doesn't have to start right away, so they will decide the upside. I like the 2 tackles that will project to center. Kuhn and Parker, bigger bodies. It could be a 7th round James Brockermeyer.

This is usually the busiest time of the year on this site. This year is a little different because we finally won. Rumors do get morbid but draft time always attracts my attention.

This draft will be graded by what rookies made first year contributions, not 3 years from now. The first 3 picks have to contribute. A safety will start, A DE will be rotational anyways. Same for DT. A LT will probably need to develop, a center will be a future starter. Unless Edwards isn't healthy, a LB wouldn't be a starter right away. A high CB pick would be the 4th or 5th CB to start. WR would be the 6 th pass catcher, RB third on the depth chart. Because we didn't get the comp pick, 75% chance we move back instead of forward. Last year there were 3 trades between 25 and 32. Many teams always want to get there guy and reach late in the first round.