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Cole is a very capable player. Im definitely not saying he sucks. I'm saying he isn't worth a big contract in the long run. Next year is his last year, because I don't see him getting a big payday from the Bears after that. But does he help us now, before that? Absolutely. He does have value. But that's also why someone will pay him more than we will. And if we arent going to keep him, unless Im missing something in compensatory formula, its better to get something for him before that. I'm guessing the trade deadline, if not during the offseason next year. Teams with good rosters cant afford good but not great players. For example we got Akiem Hicks from the Patriots in a move when he had one year left on his contract. It's not that Belichick didnt know how good Hicks was, he, and we both agreed he was a very good player. But we had the cap space for him, and when you have a packed roster like the Patriots did, you gotta replace those guys with good draft picks instead of second contracts to keep it going, and you gotta let guys go before the last year of their deal if youre not going to pay them big. So I disagree as to whether Kmet will be traded, but i agree with you that he definitely has value as a player.
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I think this is likely actually. In a vacuum, I think Kmet is gone next year. Im not an expert on compensatory picks, so if Im missing something there Im all ears, but if youre gonna lose Kmet next year, you might as well get something for him now. The trade deadline seems likely. I've been saying Kmet is on the bubble since like January. Now that we have Loveland and Burden, it seems obvious that we will get another inline blocking TE rather than pay Kmet. might as well get something for it.
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They do the show after Waddle and Silvey. Neither one of them are football guys, so all they do is speculate. I refuse to buy any Kmet trade talk. We've all been saying we needed a move TE to go with him. As soon as we get the complimentary piece, he's expendable? Cole is still a very valuable piece of the team and a top ten player at his position. Loveland and Kmet will actually compliment each others strengths and help free up the other.
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Without knowing if the rookies will even amount to anything, that seems like a risky proposition for the Bears at this point, but I could see Kmet moved before Moore, but not any earlier than the trading deadline. Moore is not even in the top 10 for WR AAV, and by next year, his deal will be a bargain AND he is signed for several more years. I would keep him at least thru 2026 or 2027, and that's only if Odunze and Burden rise to their potential.
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It starts at the beginning of the new league year in March. However, the number of players doesn't matter; just the top 51 count against the cap for the entire season.
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I seen bleacher report Chargers site that had 2 different proposed trades put forth. One was trading for Kmet for a 4th or 5th round pick. Reasoning was drafting Loveland makes Kmet expendable. Another one was trading for DJ Moore using the same logic. Drafting Burden means Moore is expendable. I guess its not just Bears fans that visit LaLa Land during the preseason.
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That makes sense, Im not sure when they are responible to set the cap space. They are allowed a 90 player roster so it would have to be later in the year to set the cap amount after they start cutting players. They still have to establish a operating total for the season which she put us under water.
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Yes, so there is a total rookie pool and an effective cap hit, which subtracts the bottom players (in the top 51) that count against the cap as they are replaced by the new player. For simple math, just subtract $1M from each's players 2025 cap hit, so only Loveland, Burden, Trapilo, and Turner will be the only ones that count negatively against the cap. All the other players are a wash. Last year if Rome got $4.1 and he bumped a guy making $1M, the cap only dropped by $3.1M to add him, Kiran only 300K.
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I thought the rookie cost for each spot drafted were already self determined. Pick # 10 is listed as 4.5 mil. I know last year Rome got 4.1 mil as the 9th pick. Kiran A got 1.3 mil as a third round pick.
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I don't think he is correct unless OvertheCap and Spotrac are wrong. The rookie pool is around $6.5M, considering they are replacing players on the 53-man roster that are already counted towards the cap. So if the Bears have around $10.6M in cap right now (Spotrac says $11.4M), they should have at least $4M after all rookies are signed. That doesn't mean they won't make other cuts, as Williams and Bates both make a lot of sense, so cutting them would push the cap space over $10M without a Thuney extension. They may do it if they bring on another RB, S, or Edge.
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They can play with the cap besides cutting a few players. As of today OTC shows us at 10.6 mil in cap space. They estimate our rookie pool as 13.3 mil. which will put us underwater. We also have to add operatiing capital thru the yr. Last year is was around 9 mil. So we have around 12 mil to come up with. Being under the cap I dont see us signing anymore quality signing until after training cap starts. OTC shows us as having 38.4 mil going into next yr as of now.
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I saw a Swifty pod and he said it looks like the Bears will be over the cap once they sign the rookie class. They will have to cut Ryan Bates and Chris Williams to get them around 3 million under. Extend Thuney and they have a little more wiggle room, but it will put the Bears around 10 million under next year.
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My guess is they have monetary agreements with agents to get the news first. Agents need rumors to drive prices up and reporters need inside info to be the best.
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Yes and he has never lived up to anything.
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Rapoport , Schifter and Pelisserio seem to be the closest to insiders in the NFL . They seem to report stuff first 90% of the time.
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If Caleb doesnt excel in this envirorment, we will have to question his potenial going forward. Of course, being a glass half full type I expect a pro bowl type of performance.
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Wasnt Watson(GB) a speed guy when he came out?
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Yeah Golden is faster, but if you look at all the top WRs, rarely do you find one that didn't have at least one big year in college. In Golden's case, he had none. Having a great year in college doesn't mean it will translate, but if you never had one, rarely do you become a top-end player in the NFL. Actually, I can't find a 1st rounder w/o at least a 1K Receiving season in college that is in the top 25 as a WR in the NFL. There were 4x WRs I found without a 1K season, but they will all selected later in the draft (Hill-5th, Metcalf-2nd, Collins/McLaurin-3rd).
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It is top 3 of all-time in the NFL. Herschel Walker-DAL, Ricky Williams-MIA, Bryce Young-CHI. The crazy part is they could've had CJ Stroud at least with the same trade, or they could've just kept Darnold, all their picks and drafted anyone else or traded back themselves. That franchise was set back at least 5 years with that flop.
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Last year we were led to believe that Williams was in the best situation ever for a QB, and based on his top 3 WRs, that was probably close to true, but the coaching staff and the O-Line were not. This year though, they completely revamped the interior of the O-Line and brought in competition at Tackle while the coaching staff has seen one of the biggest upgrades in NFL history. Going from Flus and Waldron, neither of whom survived the entire season, to Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen is so massive of an upgrade, it is hard to quantify. For the other stuff. Every rookie is unproven, and every vet is on the trading block. Kmet may not be resigned/extended beyond his current deal, and they may move him near the end of the current deal to get some value back, but that would only be if Loveland met all expectations and it was cap related, like you couldn't extend Loveland while Kmet was getting paid $10M+ annually, so you move Kmet. At that point, it would be one or the other, but there is no reason to get rid of Kmet in the next few years when Loveland and Williams are on their rookie deals. Kmet is insurance in case Loveland doesn't pan out or gets hurt. At this point, outside of an upgrade at RB and Edge, is there really a weakness on the roster? There should be zero excuses for Williams not to excel from this point forward, and the team should be highly competitive year in and year out. This is the perfect time to peak with guys like Moore and Johnson on team-friendly deals and a lot of other starters on rookie deals (Williams, Wright, Odunze, Loveland, Burden, Dexter, Stevenson, Brisker, Trapilo, Turner, and Taylor).
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You won't get inside info, just guesses. Every day the internet is filled with bears are signing JK Dobbins, Nick Chubb... releasing Cole Kmet and Ryan Bates etc. The guesses are obvious moves they could make, but they are just working on clicks. Kaplan might be the closest to being correct on his rumor from what Poles said, buy we don't know how far apart Thuney and the Bears are for contract details.
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Golden has great speed and could turn into a beast but lots of speed guys never really succeed at the NFL level.
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It is expected for sure but this guy/ Archer G. Faith reported they did. He claims to be a Bear insider. Probably just another pundit makling BS claims. Its been 3 yrs of people claiming inside information and hasnt gotten anything right yet.
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Has anyone ever seen these guys before? Are they Chicago guys? I started watching this and the first Question: Does Caleb have everything to succeed? They questioned the weapons because some are new and not proven yet.. Then in the second question about Kmet being here in the future, Loveland is a better TE so he might be gone in 2 yrs. So Loveland is unproven and then in the second question, he is better than Kmet. Isnt that counterdicting yourself?
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All I can find is David Kaplan saying he had Ryan Poles on his show last Thursday and Poles mentioned he is working on a 2 year deal amd expect it to be signed in a few days. https://t.co/wVVaEvPcXl