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LOL ALL of us!
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Over the last 2 seasons (his only starting ones) he comps strongly between Geno Smith and Tua. Basically, if Geno and Tua had a baby, it would be Jordan Love.
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I'm good. I just have fog brain and uneven temperament at times. Could be old age...
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I don't mind the new kickoff format, I just don't like being penalized for a touchback. I could see if you kick it out of the end zone, then sure, penalize the kicking team for preventing a kick return, but giving the receiving the team 35 yards for catching the ball in the end zone seems crazy to me. The 30 already felt far to me, the 35 is going to be wild.
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Dude, I hope you're ok! And that its a LONG time before anyone would consider an autopsy!
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hmmmm. I was just speaking anecdotally. these results are not in line with what I thought. as always, thanks for the stats, adam!
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He's a good QB but nothing special.
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against the NFC North/Central: Love 8-10 Rodgers 59-25-1 Favre 82-44 I just love how Packers fan put Love on some pedestal like he is anywhere close to Favre or Rodgers. Love is a .500 QB (literally 21-21) and has a losing record against the North. He is also 8-14 on the road but somehow a top franchise QB. That does not compute.
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They did make a change to the touchbacks for 2025 though, they will now be placed at the 35 (previously the 30, and originally the 20). To me, the 35 seems a little excessive. Here are some notes from a recent article: The average field position after all kickoffs in 2024 was the 30-yard line. After a return, the average starting position was the 29-yard line. Seven touchdowns were scored off a kickoff return last year, the most since 2021. There were 59 "big play" returns, which the NFL defines as 40-plus yards, the most since 2016.
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I miss the old kickoff scenario. That being said, I fully embrace the new. The safety of the players is the key for me. CTE is a huge personal fear of mine. I've had numerous concussions and suffer from the results. Although there is no test, other than autopsy, I truly believe it's part of me. The little things, like players that have their mouth guards dangling, drive me nuts. Mouth guards were initially made for teeth. Studies have found that they have an impact on concussion prevention. It's not a damn Christmas ornament.
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Since we dont have anything else to talk about, i thought it might be a good time to say that the "new" kickoff rule looked pretty good this past year. I was initially unsure. You guys may remember that I worried that there might be some new unintended wrinkles that would allow cheap or lucky free touchdowns. But in truth, having seen it tested across a season, it seems even more solid than the previous rule when it comes to dumb little mistakes causing cheap touchdowns. Im not talking about earned touchdowns, where a Devin Hester type scores because of his skill or dominance - those are always good. But of those that were not earned, i think the new rule provided fewer examples. And even though its a little weird to have a play where the kicker can run, but everyone stays frozen while the ball is actually in play, until it's touched or hits the ground, I gotta say i am a fan of the way it keeps outcomes predictable and solid, and apparently is better for players health. Cool. The game is still won (and lost) with plays on offense and defense, and not cheap touchdowns. It also limits the effect of surprise onside kicks that also have been responsible for cheap touchdowns in the past. Last minute onside kicks still exist, and the receiving team always anticipated those anyway, but the surprise ones have been eliminated. And I think that's good too. I will always be wary of any rule changes, but this one seems to have turned out well, and I am pleased with it now.
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Olibelas joined the community
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It's time for the packs winning streak to come to an end. They dont have Favre or Rodgers. Theyre just another team now. we are 12 games under .500 with the Pack all time. Let's start getting that back to even at least.
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Burden would've been matched up against CB3, now CB4. Across the board, teams are going to be able to throw against GB like they did when Alexander was out. 6-1 with Alexander (only loss to PHI) 5-5 without Alexander It looks like GB is going to be more like an 8 to 9 win team this year at best.
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Markmiren joined the community
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I'm just trying to look at what we've got in a realistic light. To me that's more exciting, because then when you get positive results, it means we might actually win some games. I think our OL is going to be night and day better, and hopefully the LT too, and I think BJ will know how to call the running game with them, so I do expect our HBs to do well, and as a result, our play action passing game too. And all of that takes away opportunities for the defense to sack Williams. I think BJ gets this as well as anyone in the league. I do think without a consistent pass rush we can only go so far. A playoff appearance? Maybe even a playoff win? Those are possibilities, but when we meet the really good teams, we're going to wish we had a top 10 pass rushing DE, and a bell cow HB who can really strike fear into the defense and close out games with tough first downs. I think our team develop this year, hopefully learn how to reliably beat the bottom 2/3 of the league, and then we will come up against the good teams, and learn that it takes even more to get to the superbowl. And that's a great place to be for this year. Next year, having been good but gotten our asses kicked by a top team, we will add at DE and HB, and then we will be a real contender. This is all on schedule. But we are not quite there yet. Now luck, and growth of the team will play an important part. There is no real ceiling on most of what this team can do in December if they really gel. But without a feared pass rush, you can only hope to win shootouts or lucky situations when you come to teams like the Eagles etc who stand between us and championships. This will be a great growing year for Caleb. I think 10-7 or 11-6 are possible. Maybe even 12-5 if everything goes right, and we have a shot at winning the division too. But we are not there yet, even on paper, to be a dominant threat to win multiple Superbowls, and of course this is if everything goes best case scenario, which it seldom does. It's gonna be great to see them ascend to that next level, and then they will discover what it really takes to dominate, after losing a heartbreaker in the playoffs to a truly good team. And honestly, I think that's right on schedule.
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Definitely their defensive backfield is suspect. Minny has basically a rookie QB and the Lions have two new OL starters with new OC and DC. The stars are lining up for us to move the standings.
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Instead of focusing on spots that may be weaknesses (we dont know yet) lets look at whats better, QB (arrow pointing up), new coaches( huge arrow pointing up), Thuney-Dalman-Jackson ( a couple of former all pros in that group), weapons (DJ-Rome-Kmet-Loveland-Burden-Swift-Monangai-Zacckeaus) are all capable of big plays. I will give you Swift is not a top 15 RB but last time BJ was his play caller this was his stat line 5.5 yards a carry, 48 receptions , 8 TDs with a total of 931 yards on 34% of the snaps. If he matches those totals with Kyle gets 40% of snaps and Roschon getting 20% it will be considered a successful year. 34.4% 0.0% 99 542 5.5 5 48 389 8.1 3 0 0 Defensively Brisker and Billings are back. Sweat had minor injuries last year and is healthy now. Added Jarret, Dayo, Turner, Hippolite, and Frazier. Dexter and Booker both added weight and should keep improving. I will agree another pass rusher would be great but no one else is coming. DA blitzes with his LBers a lot. Hippolite with his speed could add to the sack total. When Edmunds was at Buffalo , they used him as a pass rusher. He had 7.5 sacks, 32 TFL, 18 QB hits, 11 pressures. All of this in as a part time blitzer. With a new DC, one that believes in putting pressure on the QB, Allen will have sacks coming from many different positions. The defense is not complete but the overall picture looks good going forward. We are not the same old Bears. Had we had a better coach last year odds are we would have had a winning record with not as good as a roster.
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Yeah, I agree things went very differently than I expected them to, but the quality of the scouting department is really shining through - identifying players who were not in the top 5 of their position groups who could still be starters. That allowed Poles to stay true to his philosophy, and even get played a few times for HBs, and still come away with prospects who can push to start in Trapilo, Monongai, Burden and Turner while still making a splash with a first round pick in Loveland, I still think the Bears are going to lean heavily on the running game, and that we will wish we had a better HB1, no matter who eventually wins the job. I thinbk with the league having moved toward more 2 safety looks to counter the modern passing schemes over the last few years, that there is a chance for dominant HBs to affect the game more than they did 5 years ago lets say. I think we might wish we had Cam Skatebo on the roster this year. I know we are gonna need another DE too. This is our biggest weakness right now, with HB as #2. But as you have said, no roster is ever complete, so for almost every team across NFL history, there are strengths and there are "holes" - in the quest to keep updating the roster there is never a time where you dont have a concern about some player or position group. I am hopeful about a lot of these players, but we all agree, we've been let down so many times before, let's at least see it in pads at camp before any asses are crowned LOL
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KC, LA Rams, and Buffalo have done just fine with run-of-the-mill RBs. Saquon was something of an anomaly because most Superbowl winning teams do not have an elite RB in the modern era. Speaks volumes about how rosters are being built these days. Swift's money will likely be needed elsewhere next year and he'll get replaced by a mid-round pick. If our QB and receiving groups become what we think they can we might get away with another day 3 RB to compliment Monangai and still be ok. This offseason has been one of our best but as you said, enough with the what-if scenarios it's time to start seeing this show up on the field.
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I don't believe that 50% of top ten OL picks fail. I dont think Sweat and Dayo are enough at DE to challenge for a superbowl. It takes years to build a roster, and I assume DE will be a high priority next year unless we do something sooner. I do think we have some horses at DT now. I dont believe in Swift as a HB to take us where we want to go. Hes OK, but not a difference maker. Of course ALL rookies need to prove it on the field. Before the draft i hadnt heard of Trapilo or seen any tape. If I had, hed have been on my list of guys I wanted too. I am optimistic about him, but I need to see him and Amagadje in pads. Im not saying the roster is bad, Im saying its too early to be crowing about how all the pieces are in place. That's homer stuff.
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As Luther Burden said on his twitter when he heard this... "Uh Oh"
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I was thinking surely they planned for this but this doesn't seem like much of a plan... https://packerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2025/06/09/jaire-alexander-release-green-bay-packers-defense-2025-analysis/84112283007/ "In terms of true cornerbacks, the Packers’ depth chart now consists of a former fifth-round pick in Hobbs, a sixth-rounder in Hadden (by Kansas City), three seventh-rounders in Valentine, King and Hadden, and a former UDFA in Nixon."
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https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/why-rome-odunze-has-become-one-of-fantasy-football-s-hottest-names
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GB just released Alexander. He was their CB1, even if he missed some time with injuries, that is a huge hole to fill post June 1.