jason

It's like telling someone to dodge bullets when storming the beach and Normandy. Sooner or later you get nervous and you can't avoid the danger.

Gotta disagree with you guys on this. What in the hell is Cutler supposed to do when: A] The OL has allowed a free rusher on EVERY play B] He has been hit on nearly EVERY play C] Martz continues to call 7-step drop plays D] Martz refuses to provide more than 5 man coverage E] Martz refuses to roll Cutler out F] Martz refuses to run draws or screens enough to affect the DL G] At least two of the team's offensive linemen are CFL players, at best H] One of the Bears' offensive linemen might actually be the worst player in the NFL (Omiyale in case you're wondering) I] The WRs clearly aren't getting open, since a few of the sacks were coverage sacks Really. What the hell is Cutler supposed to do?

This. Blame Angelo, Lovie, Martz, and the OL before you start pointing the finger at Cutler.

Gotta love being 3-0 and underrated. Bears not the best

You know as well as I do that kind of statement is not a "stat." Please quit with the ignorant baiting. Simply put, if you have a game like that when the opponent dominates on offensive yardage and time of possession, they're likely to have great success. Couple that with the unlikely scenario of having a team commit that many penalties again, and my statement rings pretty true. And you know it. You're just trying to be confrontational.

Hester really showed up on blocks this week. Let's not forget he absolutely planted AJ Hawk during the game as well.

Yes, 17-20 against GB is good. But how many times will that happen? Play that game ten times in a row, and the Packers break 30 on 8 or 9 of those games. I despise the scheme, the passive nature, and Lovie.

Normally, in a football sense, I don't have a problem with it. With this horrible OL, and Forte, pretty much opposite of a power back, I say kick the FG every time.

I read about that and completely agree with you. The likelihood of someone dropping the N-bomb on an NFL player is extremely minimal considering the probability of a beatdown. The likelihood of saying it to Nick Collins is even less probable considering his propensity for violent outbursts. The likelihood of someone yelling it when other fans and/or players are around is almost nil. I'd say Collins is making things up to cover for his actions and poor self-control.

We simply disagree on your entire post. When you get stuffed on short yardage time and time again, you go for the FG when it's a gimme. Points are points. Three is better than zero. And, evidently, it WAS enough. Catchable? Sure, I can buy that. But it was a really bad pass. Great call, agreed, but I'd say it was worse than mediocre, and I'm far from a Clark supporter when it comes to him or Cutler.

You may be right, but if that's the gameplan, it's passive as hell and will eventually get the Bears beat by a team that doesn't make mistakes (i.e. #5) or doesn't get as many holding penalties called against them (i.e. #6).

Was anyone else surprised by the consistency with which Martz had Cutler go back into deep drops the entire game? It seemed that a change should have been made considering the beating Cutler was taking and the frequency with which the Packers were blitzing, but it never really came like in the Cowboys game. I understand why the run game didn't get more love - especially considering the horrendous run blocking - but I don't get why there weren't more short passes in the flats, a screen or three, and a couple quick slants.

1. I agree with the frustration, but I'd hardly call letting the Packers march up and down the field "working perfectly." 2. I think it's somewhere in between. He wasn't great, but he was easily better than any other DLineman. 3. He had a few boneheaded throws, but overall a good game. I agree with the Cutler+Martz thoughts. 4. Agreed. Soulja Boy needs to be played before every Bears punt return if it gets Hester hyped. 5. I'm also sick of it. The OL can't run block at all. And it wasn't an easy catch for Clark. It was behind him and low. Bad pass by Cutler. 6. Agreed on everything except the Rodgers love. Beast? Yes. Love him? Hell no. 7. Interesting... 8. You had 7 twice.

Yes, even when the Bears win, I usually hate Lovie. That's because most of the time he deserves the hate. Yes, it all comes down to players making plays. And against the Packers the Bears' players made plays. But it sure would be nice to have the complete package. A team with players who make plays as well as coaches who actually coach, instead of just crossing their fingers and hoping for the plays to be made.

You don't? Seems like the most fortunate game I can remember in a long time. The Bears got beat in nearly every aspect of the game, but still won. If that is not luck, then we'll have to call it fortune. PotAto, Potahto.

Yes. I actually think you are wrong. It worked this time, but it doesn't always work. And if you continue to pat yourself on the back when you get lucky, and fail to modify the things that are wrong (i.e. the same things Lovie has ignored for the past 3 or 4 years), then yes, the problems in this type of win DO matter. Having said that, of course, I'd rather be lucky and win than perfect and lose.

Yes, giving up nearly 400 yards "worked." But I hate to rely on a late forced fumble for the win. Or a dropped INT on the Packers side of the ball. Or the Packers to have more penalties then they had in any game in the last 50 years. So, I guess it "worked." Listen to the postgame...nearly everyone will acknowledge that the Bears got beat in most aspects of the game but got lucky with a turnover and the penalties.

I'm also happy about this 3-0 start. But don't you think the Bears could have done so much more over the past few years if not for Lovie? I really think they could have done so much better if he wasn't holding them back with A] his weak cover-2 defense and B] his loyalty to braindead offensive coordinators.

For once we agree.

I'm not upset, but it seems like you'll grasp at anything to support Lovie Smith's zombified approach to coaching. Typed as the Bears get stuffed yet again on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and short.

I actually think it does matter. It's that passive attitude that has killed the Bears over the past few years.

You're right. My only wish is that we actually could know. We never will, unfortunately.

My point is that you tried to turn the bad 4th down call into a positive for the coaching staff. Putting your money in the lottery isn't a smart move, even if you happen to get lucky and win money later on.

Yes, pretty damn good. I wonder how much better it could have been if they were aggressive and actually went for the kill.

Sorry, but the horrible offensive call didn't do anything on the actual play. The field position is consequential; with that I agree. But trying to give Lovie credit for the punt return which was in spite of his shit 4th down call is crazy.