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But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....how can you question Ron Turner?! He's been doing this for years and years professionally! You should just be quiet because you clearly don't have a clue. Ron Turner is a great OC, and by sheer virtue that he is in the NFL means that you couldn't possibly make a decision that is remotely close to his brilliance. Sarcasm aside, anyone who thinks that McKie FB dive play is good, is completely effing retarded, knows nothing about football, and doesn't deserve any sort of reply regarding strategy. Simply put, on third and short, you have to give it to your main guy, Forte. If not, there needs to be deception like a play-action call involving that same player.

But is that a knock on Bradley, Lovie (and OC), or both? Considering the fact that the Bears' WRs haven't been tearing up the league, I'd have to say that it is at the very least a shared fault. Of course, I was a fan of Bradley's (when not injured) for some time, and felt all he really needed was a chance to shine. Because, let's be honest, when the dude was on the field and the ball made it his way, he looked fast, strong, and big. But when you only see one or two balls thrown your way a game, it's tough to get out of a doghouse that doesn't exactly have a wide door for success.

Looks like we're going to go ahead and scratch this idea. He acted like a baby the entire game versus the Bears, had drops, threw fits, and isn't nearly as talented as someone like TO or Randy Moss (who barely make it tolerable). Roy Williams - pass

WOW! Hester is too fast for any of the Detroit DBs. TD.

I like the fact that Turner and Orton are opening it up some this game. More than one intermediate to long passes.

3rd and short - the opponent has to respect the run as well as the play action 4th and short - there is almost a 99% guarantee that it will be a run. The offense AND the defense knows this. With that said, I still think the Bears' players should be able to get 1 yard on a 4th and 1, even when the opposing defense knows it's coming.

3rd and short...give to Forte...first down as he bounces off sissy tacklers. Imagine that.

TRADE 3RD AND 4TH TO MIAMI FOR JOHN BECK??? That's ridiculous. There are all-star players who have gone for much less. You may as well throw in a hand job from Lovie if you're going to offer Miami so much.

Which is precisely why it doesn't work that well with the current players. Do you even realize the fact you are contradicting yourself? By design, Alex Brown is taking himself out of the play by going wide. Since the DTs are not getting a great consistent push, the QB simply has to step up and throw the ball - which Griese did over 60 times. It's also part of the reason why the slant is so easy to execute against the Bears. With no DE to bat down the ball, the passing lane is just there for the taking (added to the DBs playing so far off the ball). It's a great idea in theory, but most teams do not have the luxury of pass-rushing DTs. Since the Bears don't have those, then the scheme has to change.

Ummm...because he's rushing the exact same way he does every time!? The same thing that has caused frustration is the same reason why he got burned on the reverse. He crashes outside, and in a looping motion to the QB. It's why he's susceptible to the reverse. It's also why he was in on the 4th down goal-line stand. It's the only rushing angle he uses. It's really not that hard to understand. The thing he does over and over and over can be exploited, and often is to the detriment of our entire defense.

Honestly, I hope he crushes them in the first half, and that cause the Lions to step up...and THAT leads the Bears to a productive passing game in the second half. It'd be nice to see a completely dominating offensive performance for once.

He's definitely delivered more crunching hits than anyone else on the roster.

Dear AZ, Thanks for proving how little you know about football. The Defensive Ends are largely unproductive, and it's almost guaranteed that it's by design. Also, between the two of us, you'd be the student, not the instructor. Sincerely, Someone who knows a lot more about football than you do

1) Chicago's offense is not Philly's 2) Chicago's OLine is not Philly's 3) Jackson is a WR, Forte is a RB, so it's a play with different players, different circumstances, and different odds of success. 4) Orton is not McNabb 5) The game situation was completely different. The Bears wanted to run the clock whereas the Eagles wanted to go for the score. If you can't see those five fundamental differences, then you are too dense to even begin discussing this topic.

The odd thing about this is that you know I prefer a more high-octane approach, despite how AZ thinks, and this is a typical explosive play. Hell, I'm one of the few people who liked Crowton. However, I think you downplay the differences in the selection. The normal run is extremely more reliable, and more safe than an end around. You say he could be stripped, but how many hundreds, possibly thousands, of times has Orton handed off to Forte? How many more thousand times have the two been involved in other running plays? They are infinitely more familiar with the typical hand-off on a running play than they are an end-around. Also, you ignored what I said. I said that the three plays previous to the end-around were three runs for a total of 16 yards. That is a fact: 3-4-CHI 7 (2:43) 22-M.Forte left guard to CHI 17 for 10 yards (27-Q.Mikell). 1-10-CHI 17 (2:33) 22-M.Forte left tackle to CHI 19 for 2 yards (96-O.Gaither). 2-8-CHI 19 (2:00) 22-M.Forte right guard to CHI 23 for 4 yards (58-T.Cole). 3-4-CHI 23 (1:14) 22-M.Forte left end to CHI 20 for -3 yards (20-B.Dawkins). I can see how you would want something different considering the offense's inefficiency and predictability, but there are countless other plays that run the clock, are lower risk, and don't involve a gimmick of some kind.

Or, smart guy, because IT DIDN'T FARKING WORK! Honestly, I can't believe someone can ride the nuts of a team's coaches and front office that have for the most part, produced such mediocre results. Oh, and aside from that, it's the kind of play that pee-wee coaches to high school coaches run nation wide, when they think about it too much, when they try to be too smart or too cute, when they should just be running a normal running play or something more familiar to the offense.

Dear Babich, There is no such thing as a 15-step drop. No team, OC, or QB in the league practices this as a routine. The QB will never be back 15 yards from the LOS. Please have your DEs adjust their angles of attack accordingly. And while you're at it, have them twist or stunt every once in a while just to mix things up. Sincerely, A fan who's sick of watching the DEs run around the opposing QB

DING DING DING! We have a winner!

Reasons why it's idiotic: 1) Running a conventional play to Forte has a better chance of success. The previous three plays, which happened to be runs, which happened to be when the Eagles KNEW the Bears were going to run, tallied 16 yards. 2) Running an end-around has a higher risk of turnover. 3) There was just over a minute left, and the point was to run down the clock first, and get the first down second. I don't mind trying something different, but I think it's idiotic to do it at that time.

Agreed. That's the first thing I thought when I saw this view.

I think Turner did better this game, but there are still a few bonehead plays that just make a rational person scratch their heads. -Anytime McKie gets the ball it's pretty much a bad decision -The size advantage the Bears' TEs have was used well, but not enough -The late end-around was idiotic However, on a positive note, he gave it to Forte on 3rd and short...which is a positive step.

Agreed. Severely underrated.

No. That was a completely boneheaded play. Not only does he have a better shot with a normal running play, but the end-around is a much more fumble-prone play.

LOL! Slow line judge FTW.

My jaw dropped to the floor. Maybe Turner has learned?