jason Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 At this point, are we already just looking forward to the draft? Bears making stupid penalties, but get bailed out with an EZ interception. That's nice to see. And the OL is giving Hoyer a decent amount of time thus far. Of course, they're still running that "never ran it with Cutler"-offense, which adds a little something to it. Can't say I remember more than one or two naked bootlegs the entire time Cutler has been under center. Now with Hoyer? Once a drive. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 It's maddening. It never made sense to me why Cutler hasn't been allowed to rollout more as a Chicago Bear. That was the one thing he excelled at in Denver, yet I can probably count on both hands the number of times a play like that was called when he started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eback Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 It's maddening. It never made sense to me why Cutler hasn't been allowed to rollout more as a Chicago Bear. That was the one thing he excelled at in Denver, yet I can probably count on both hands the number of times a play like that was called when he started. Maybe when your not a great decision maker rolling out is not the best idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Maybe when your not a great decision maker rolling out is not the best idea. If you're not a great decision maker then rolling out is actually a great idea! It splits the field in half, simplifies where the ball can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Barth made a FG, so something is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eback Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 If you're not a great decision maker then rolling out is actually a great idea! It splits the field in half, simplifies where the ball can go. Yes on that but if your throwing on the run into double coverage I don't see good things happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 With Meredith stepping up to fill in for White, and Jeffery, Miller, Royal, and now Howard, this offense has the potential to be virtually unstoppable. It seems like someone is open on every play and Jeffery can even make catches when completely covered. If we can convert in the RZ, we should be scoring in the high 20's to low 30's every game. Now the defense is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Yes on that but if your throwing on the run into double coverage I don't see good things happening. When a team runs a naked bootleg it not only cuts field in half but it's set up with fake run. Typically gets the defense going towards the end therefore it's not very often a wr is in double coverage. It's more 1 on 1. I would want someone ask fox and company why they run naked bootleg's with hoyer but never even attempt them with cutler. After all cutler did excel with it in Denver and that can't be ignored. 1 thing I kind of think is that I've seen the oline getting better and better and back in the 1st couple weeks they couldn't sustain a block at all which you need to sustain them in order to set up a naked bootleg. Maybe that's why. It's all very interesting though for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 With Meredith stepping up to fill in for White, and Jeffery, Miller, Royal, and now Howard, this offense has the potential to be virtually unstoppable. It seems like someone is open on every play and Jeffery can even make catches when completely covered. If we can convert in the RZ, we should be scoring in the high 20's to low 30's every game. Now the defense is another story. Excellent point. I'm seeing the oline gel together very well. Setting up holes for the backs and hoyer has only been sacked a total of 3 times since taking over. So he's got more time to go thru progressions and he's not making mistakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 When a team runs a naked bootleg it not only cuts field in half but it's set up with fake run. Typically gets the defense going towards the end therefore it's not very often a wr is in double coverage. It's more 1 on 1. I would want someone ask fox and company why they run naked bootleg's with hoyer but never even attempt them with cutler. After all cutler did excel with it in Denver and that can't be ignored. 1 thing I kind of think is that I've seen the oline getting better and better and back in the 1st couple weeks they couldn't sustain a block at all which you need to sustain them in order to set up a naked bootleg. Maybe that's why. It's all very interesting though for sure I believe you are correct, it is tied to the O-Line, they are adding new wrinkles into the game plan. Now could Cutler step in his first week back and do the same thing Hoyer is doing right now? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eback Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 When a team runs a naked bootleg it not only cuts field in half but it's set up with fake run. Typically gets the defense going towards the end therefore it's not very often a wr is in double coverage. It's more 1 on 1. I would want someone ask fox and company why they run naked bootleg's with hoyer but never even attempt them with cutler. After all cutler did excel with it in Denver and that can't be ignored. 1 thing I kind of think is that I've seen the oline getting better and better and back in the 1st couple weeks they couldn't sustain a block at all which you need to sustain them in order to set up a naked bootleg. Maybe that's why. It's all very interesting though for sure I do agree and have been asking for this for years now but after 20 OC's that have not utilized that play with Culter but do with other QBs you have to think there is a good reason. I don't know man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 That was an absolute idiotic drive to end the half there. Should have ended up in points. Fox is a moron. 3 timeouts and he lets the clock run for 30 seconds after Alshon's big 3rd down catch. Inexcusable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daventry Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 That was an absolute idiotic drive to end the half there. Should have ended up in points. Fox is a moron. 3 timeouts and he lets the clock run for 30 seconds after Alshon's big 3rd down catch. Inexcusable! Agreed, that was dumb. Seems like after the penalty was over turned they just gave up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 The Bears defense keeps getting gifts from Jacksonville. That's about the 3rd or 4th huge 3rd down play that should have resulted in a conversion if Bortles knew how to throw the ball or the receiver could catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 How disappointing. We can seem to get to the red zone but we struggle to punch it in. Good thing it's just Jacksonville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Hoyer going full Josh McCown. He may "look" good, but he never seems to be able to get the Bears into the endzone. As much as we like to criticize Cutler, the Bears tend to put up more points with him at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 If the Bears lose this game, it might be "Fire the coach" time. As bad as the Jags have played, and as lucky as the Bears defense has been, the Jags are still within striking distance in a game they have no business being in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 You got to be kidding. Once again another red zone failed trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 LOL, this team is hot garbage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I think we all saw that coming. Just wow. Way to many defensive issues including stupid mistakes and the fact the offense couldn't punch it in the end zone on several failed chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 A win doesn't help us in the long run. More losses equal a better pick. This team is not going to the playoffs. All this game showed was Hoyer is not in any way the answer for us. His check-down style was one of the main reasons we lost today. Here's hoping for a top-3 pick. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingtwig Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Jeffrey was targeted 13 times but he only had 3 yards in the 2nd half after starting the game with 6 catches for 90 yards. Will say im loving the progression that we are seeing from Meredith. Hopefully that continues even after we move on from hoyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears4Ever_34 Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 It's time for John Fox to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 I think I said this after the last loss, but this game was great. It shows us a lot of potential, gives us glimpses of hope, gives reps to some up and coming players, shows us Hoyer is the dink-and-dunker we thought he was, and that the team can compete despite having a bunch of injuries and glaring holes in a few places. It's a loss, and losses always suck, but this was nearly perfect for the long-term goals of the Bears organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 It's time for John Fox to go. You are talking about the Bears, Fox will not be let go with 2 years left on his contract. Maybe after next year, but still doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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