10 hours ago10 hr comment_233601 We all agree we need an improved pass rush but we also need better DE depth. This draft poses the opportunity to draft one or the other. Guys like Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby who can give you both are somewhat rare. My question is which do you prefer we draft because we have options in the first couple rounds of players that go one way or the other? The obvious answer is we need a DE but having one really good pass rusher on the roster would change things for us in games where we can get a big lead early. I could see someone like Mesidor not getting many snaps in the first half but that changing as we get into the 3rd and especially the 4th quarter. I'm leaving out the obvious top 15 players from the list because I don't think those are realistic options for us. Players I consider pass rushers: Mesidor, Cashius Howell, Romello Height, R. Mason ThomasEdge Defenders: Zion Young, Derrick Moore, Keldric Faulk, T.J. Parker, Dani Dennis-SuttonMy preference is to get another good DE Edge Defender and we can do that in either the 1st or 2nd Rd. Every one of those players needs work on the pass rushing. I won't be upset at all if we draft Mesidor at 25 because he'd be a huge help in the 4th quarter closing out games. Report
8 hours ago8 hr comment_233602 1 hour ago, AZ54 said:We all agree we need an improved pass rush but we also need better DE depth. This draft poses the opportunity to draft one or the other. Guys like Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby who can give you both are somewhat rare. My question is which do you prefer we draft because we have options in the first couple rounds of players that go one way or the other? The obvious answer is we need a DE but having one really good pass rusher on the roster would change things for us in games where we can get a big lead early. I could see someone like Mesidor not getting many snaps in the first half but that changing as we get into the 3rd and especially the 4th quarter. I'm leaving out the obvious top 15 players from the list because I don't think those are realistic options for us.Players I consider pass rushers: Mesidor, Cashius Howell, Romello Height, R. Mason ThomasEdge Defenders: Zion Young, Derrick Moore, Keldric Faulk, T.J. Parker, Dani Dennis-SuttonMy preference is to get another good DE Edge Defender and we can do that in either the 1st or 2nd Rd. Every one of those players needs work on the pass rushing. I won't be upset at all if we draft Mesidor at 25 because he'd be a huge help in the 4th quarter closing out games.I seen Greg Gabriel post that the Bears draft younger players round 1 and 2, so off that pattern, Messidor may not be an option. I like the Penn State Edge Dani Dennis-Sutton because he seems to have the size and athleticism that can be developed into the complete package, like Garrett. He scored the highest RAS score for DEs and top 15 for all DEs ever recorded. If he is still on the board round 2, I would be good seeing him selected. I should see how he compares to Zion Young who i can see the Bears taking round 1 because of the edge defender profile, like Dani. Report
1 hour ago1 hr comment_233604 I saw that post too. All of Poles first round picks have been 22 and younger except one at 23. Messidor is probably the best pure pass rusher that could be there late round but he will be 27 next Jan in his first year. I just don't see it.I just don't think he is drafting anyone that will be 25 or older his year.Parker, Young, Jacas and Lawrence fit most of the scheme traits but all seem more like 2 nd round picks to me. Although Parker and Young may go first round.The DT class doesn't really have any high prospects that have high pass rush ability. McDonald and Woods may be good players be to me not first round worthy with limited pass rush skills.Because we didn't get the comp pick, I definitely think we drop out of 25. The second round seems like the sweet spot to take an Edge rusher or run support DT. I think we end up getting 3 picks in the second round. I don't see us taking any older players or pass rush specialist there either.One prospect if drops to 25 I think we consider is Faulk. 20 years old, great size and speed but didn't have a good senior year. People say coaching changes affected that.Malachi Lawrence keeps dropping and could be first round. Great speed and got better every year. Note that Jacas workout he ran a 4.69. Report
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