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AMEN - we need accountability, not these soft emotional fan boys.

thats faulty logic since I saw him jogging every week. I saw it with my own eyes. TTNL saw it and commented on it too. Youre alleging that BJ didnt see it? I doubt that highly. He sees everything. You just want to protect DJ for some emotional reason.

Flores may never get another chance to be a HC. He burned a major bridge with his lawsuits. He was completely justified in doing so to but the billionaire boys club has different rules. After Jon Gruden gets done with them, they may lock ranks and never hire anyone who may be a threat again.

Next up is the East-West Shrine and Senior Bowls. Just over 6 weeks until Free Agency opens and under 3 months until the draft. January 27th - East-West Shrine Bowl January 31st - Senior Bowl February 17th-March 3rd - Franchise Tag Window February 23rd-March 2nd - NFL Combine March 9th-11th - Legal Tampering Period March 11th - Free Agency Officially Opens April 20th - Clubs with returning head coaches can begin offseason workout programs April 23rd-25th - NFL Draft May 1st - Designate 5th-year options from 2023 Draft (Wright) May 1st or 8th - Rookie Minicamp

Detroit hires Petzing as their OC and GB hires Gannon as their DC. ARZ's defense was one of the worst in the NFL over the last 3 years finishing 29th, 15th, and 31st in pts while the offense was not much better finishing 23rd, 12th, and 24th. Considering GB is going from Hafley to Gannon; that is a huge downgrade in coaching. Gannon benefitted from a stacked roster in PHI which he will not have in GB, nor did he have in ARZ. DET let go their OC that had the 4th highest scoring offense for one that had the 23rd. Are they going to have Petzing use their current offensive scheme or will they change to his? Either way that is a downgrade. Now the last domino is hopefully Flores. MIN did extend him as their DC, but there are still HC vacancies left. I don't know if he announced that he would not take any of those jobs but BUF, LVR, ARZ, and CLE are still open.

He kinda had to play him this year. DJ being the incumbent leader/elder statesman of the WR room, had a lot of clout with the youngsters. BJ simply couldn't come in and eviscerate the captain. That's why the off-season body language thing came out delicately played. Now that BJ and Randall El have established their trust with the players DJ's influence doesn't carry the weight. In the meantime lesser weapons got the "no block, no rock" treatment. (Burden,Walker, Loveland). Time means a lot. Going forward, Loveland, Burden and Walker enter their second pro year needing more targets. Let alone Rome entering the beginning of his prime. The combination of the above make DJ expendable. We need one of the above to accept the crown. If they need to find that dog, they can get a hungry vet cheaply in free agency. At the end of the day, we want an Amon Ra type to be our leader. (No plays off). Plays off are for the sideline...

BJ won't play you if you don't show effort in blocking, DJ played every game so that tells me he didn't have a problem with DJs effort. I'm on BJs Twitter account, I'll send him a link to Phil's channel.

Anytime productive players get second contracts, they get overpaid unless they do TJ Edwards type contracts. He is in a WR prime years at 28, he's not old. If they decide their good without him and can find a trade, I'm okay with it but haven't got that impression from the exit speeches. If they wait until until 2027, it will be a lot easier Cap hit. I also heard today that Crosby had his 8th knee surgery. Doubt they take that risk with the money involved and giving up 2 #1s.

The only reason, if they do, is to boost the defense. We were very lucky this season and play a stronger schedule. If the Bears repeat the heroic comebacks again then its destiny, but I wouldnt count on it. Moore is valuable but for 27.5 mil, maybe not that much. That's your nfls top 10-12. Can they sacrifice defensive performance another year will be up to Poles and what the league feels about having Moore.

because Odunze and Burden need more snaps, and you have to believe in your guys and go forward assuming they will grow. DJ takes snaps away from our core future players.

Signing a mid level free agent is fine, it doesnt have to be Braxton. There will be many other choices.

Every week on the TTNL game wrapup they showed film of DJ jogging routes. I saw it with my own eyes every week. Its just true.

If it's true that DJ was taking plays off all year, does anyone honestly think BJ would be playing him? He watches tape 10 times more than we do. Walker would have been getting snaps. Burden wasn't getting a lot of snaps until he blocked better. BJ notices everything.

No matter any fans opinion, we will see in real time if the Bears value him. I don't like the idea of getting rid of a good player untill you can see Rome healthy and Burden growing one more year. They can restructure his contract for cap space. When it's time to pay Caleb, we will see him gone when he contract has marginal less dead space. I doubt he will bring more than a 3rd rounder and wouldn't make the contribution DJ would next year. Why take a step backwards?

It could be our cheapest option at this point, resign Braxton if they don't draft a first round LT.

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Hell no!

All good options. I like the idea of cultivating from within.

I think I understand where you're coming from. I agree not every argument for keeping DJ is emotional. The one you presented here is well reasoned. I disagree and I'll say why, but there is nothing wrong with what youve said here in my opinion. So first off, I'm not really talking about just one play, but a real pattern of them across the whole year. I think that makes him a negative role model in terms of the veteran leadership point youre making. I also agree that we have the chance to be something really special on offense, I see that too. I just think Luther Burden is ready to step into DJs role, and I dont think DJ is really a WR1. Now both Odunze and Burden have a lot of growing up to do. I dont disagree with that at all. But I think when you have young players that you think have the ability to be special, and you have faith in your position coaches to coach them up, I think letting them play is the best way for them to grow and become the dominant players you think they can be. Right now it's a lot of mouths to feed, if you want to think of it that way, it limits the snaps of the other guys. For me, I dont see DJ getting any better. He's decent right now, but he doesnt have the upside that Odunze and Burden have. I think you could find another free agent WR to play the role Burden did this year, and let Burden step into DJs shoes. And also, yes I think DJs cap number should go to the defense.

Listening to Thayer the other day, he pointed out getting Theo the strength training he needs. He's a big athletic guy coming off the knee surgery last year. This would be his strength gain year. Theo seems like a got that will do what's necessary. Also, Poles said Kiran is progressing nicely. Thayer also stated that he believes the surgery Ozzy is getting is like the new Achilles surgery. Thinking the odds of recovery get better all the time. He miss a good portion, if not all of next season. My guess is that we sign Braxton on a one year prove it or an experienced vet.

I don’t know whether this got answered before but is there any real possibility in asking Thuney to play the position? I’d assume it would involve more money for him but he seemed to do fine in the one game he played it. That is until the play where Caleb chucked it to Kmet to tie the game. Your video with Kreutz mentioned ‘the left collapsed’ on that play . Wasn’t sure it was Thuney or McFadden he was referring to . Edit: sorta answered my own question. Looked to see if that was in fact a possibility and even though I didnr get a definitive ‘yes’ it was noted he’s done it before . Sounds like he did it as recent as 2024 when playing for the Chiefs. He did it for a stint later in the season but they noted a combination of the line itself wearing down and his body style (not really a tackle) being a big reason they made an early out on the playoffs. Still, could he be a bridge until Trapillo comes back or another ‘up and comer’ is identified?

its not a put down I MEANT it. I was saying the things that make you a good person dont necessarily apply to running a football team. Why is everyone so prickly right now? Geez.

Your backhanded insults are cute I’ll give you that. I see why Stinger gets so fed up with you. You don’t have to take my word for it since you seem to know who or what I am. Just watch the video clip Stinger supplied on Lucky’s post and see what Olin Kreutz has to say about it. We know he has the bonafides.

again, you (or at least i do) have to take into account not just one play, not just a few plays but the whole body of work and also that of our entire receiving core, injury implications and i am sure a few other items. i would assume our new coach address's any problems like this if it is as you say. this is not player love, this is looking at the health of this franchise over the long run. absolutely nothing as been proven with these young players as to the final quality or longevity either. if we had relied on them only this season we wouldn't have even gotten in the playoffs due to injuries and untimely drops. this young WR core needs someone to mentor them that isn't just a coach. i have been watching this team for a long time and this offense has the potential to be better than anything in the our past since the modern age of the NFL came into being. i don't want to get cute and mess too much with that to save some cap money that can be absorbed creatively.

The message is if you take plays off and jog your routes youre gone even IF youre highly paid. I LIKE that message. I like it a LOT.