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that is SO fair. Im trying to bend over sideways to not be negative, so maybe I went too far positive LOL maybe I could spin it like this? Poles got the two best candidates out there for these jobs. So he succeeded. Now whether they work out, is another thing? But yeah. Im not sold on Poles. I'd really like to know whether he was allowed to fire Flus last year or not. If he was, then he is definitely suspect. But maybe he wasnt, and I'll probably never know. Let's see how Dalman and Jackson look on the OL. We are assuming those holes are plugged now, but I thought Nate Davis' tape was awesome too. Youre right - lets wait and see. Like you said - looks good on paper, cant wait to see it on grass.

That's a big reach of a statement. Neither are proven at their profession as of yet. Does it look good on paper? Hell yeah! Does it look good on the field? Haven't seen it yet. I very much agree we got it right, but I'm not betting a nickel on it until I see it happen. Been burnt too many times...

OK youre missing two very important details. 1) It was said AFTER the draft, not before. CC says she spoke to the dir of player personnel after the draft, and he said Loveland wasnt necessarily their first choice, that if Banks had fallen, for example, they would have taken him. I believe CC is not a liar. I feel like it may even have been partly on video, so you could see hm say it - Jeff something. 2) It matters who was available when, because we did trade down multiple times. *IF* we traded down thinking we would get a certain targeted HB at a lower pick, one who was still available on the board BEFORE the trade down, and we could have just picked them then, but instead if we traded down and then someone got in front of us and took the HB, then that means we read the situation poorly, and missed out on HBs we were targeting more than Monangai. If it happened multiple times, then it is fair to criticize the draft process as having misread the board, and missed out on players we mistakenly thought would be available later, got greedy, and missed the HB that was targeted. And even if that did happen, I'm not unhappy value-wise with the players we DID pick either, but if you're going to be evaluating the team, you gotta look into the places where they failed too. Is it fireable? No it's not. But that doesnt mean it isnt important. It's important in the continued evaluation of Poles who has done some amazing things, some good things, gotten lucky some, made some very questionable moves, and a few flat out bad decisions too. For me, right now, Poles is getting a B. Maybe a B+, and most of that is due to Caleb and Johnson, two massive pieces we got VERY right. But Caleb was luck as much as anything, and Johnson picked the Bears because of Caleb. So Poles could easily have lost both of them, if the Texans don't score a last minute touchdown in the last game of the season that didnt matter to them. For me, that all adds up to: Poles is worth keeping an eye on. I'm not totally sold on him or Warren. Not the way I am about the coaching staff, for example.

I read the remarks after the draft, can you show me the video where she states it before the draft? I have seen interviews where Poles talks about all three of those players, of course he liked them, but other than the first pick in the draft no GM is going to broadcast who they are taking. Actually it doesnt matter because they were not available and they didnt move up to take any of them or even talked about that.

CC reported that Bears employees, including director of player personnel said they wanted players that were gone before they picked, and specifically Jeanty, Banks and Campbell, and Henderickson later. She named her source, and also exactly when he said it (immediately after the draft) So either you think she is lying, or youre just trying to ignore these facts because they dont fit your "everything is perfect" narrative. Now even if the Bears did get out maneuvered on the board, it doesnt mean the draft was a failure. Poles may have miscalculated who would be there at times, but we still stayed true to our board and got value. So this isnt me saying he was awful either. But reality is messy, and is almost never "they got it exactly how they wanted it, its perfect"

Since none of them were available, we will never know. After they made the draft pick, the next day BJ said he showed a highlight video before the draft to show a little insight in where they were going with the pick to the war room. At 9.45 . It was Loveland. Through out the draft they seemed like they guess who people were taking and were pretty spot on, so they knew none of those other picks would be there. CC has no inside information other than they liked those players. Im sure they liked Carter and Hunter to but knew they wouldnt be there.

Jayden Daniels isnt that great. He is a lot like Justin Fields - amazing arm, great with his feet, but not ready to read a fully dimensional offense. Kliff Kingsbury has gotten the most out of him - really amazing results. Let's see if it continues this year. It's hard to make a QB look good consistently if they cant read a defense, eventually the NFL will catch up to what you're doing schematically, and force Daniels to play the position, and then i believe he will be exposed..

Ok, so I watched the episode. Lots of great highlight film on players. I was especially happy to see Turner's film. I think he was a steal. He should help us a lot. I do think the beginning where they say "Let's start with Loveland" was a little bit suspect. It's not clear that they started with him out of the gate, or if they were doing tight ends there, or what. We have heard from Courtney Cronin that the Bears would have taken Jeanty, Campbell or Banks over Loveland if any of them had been there, so I dunno if the film really says anything - it was edited tightly to the beginning of those words, and there is nothing from the draft before the pick. Still and all, the Bears were obviously very high on Loveland, and pleased that he was available for them. He's gonna be a great player for us, I believe. But I don't know that this film really does anything to dispel the idea that Poles miscalculated on HB availability through several trade downs. That's not to say that the players they did get were bad - they arent. It looks like a solid crop of rookies that can help us, including the HB we eventually did get, Monangai who looks great. I just don't think everything went perfectly according to plan on draft day either? Or at least, this film isn't proof that it did.

You do notice, none of them were juggernaut defenses either.

Burden has a ton of talent, and with the right guidance I hope he turns into a real weapon - he has it in him! But the reason he slipped to the second round is that he shows much sharper cuts when he's running with the ball than he does when he's running his routes, and he is a bit of a head case. Now to be fair, most stud WRs have giant egos and are head cases, so it's hopefully not a fatal flaw, but if he is coachable, he does have a ceiling to become a top WR in the NFL.

That's my kind of hype video. I really enjoyed the dialogue and forethought of how the draft would shake out. It shows a knowledgeable and disciplined plan. I feel that they hit on Loveland, Trapilo, Stewart, Hyppolite, Newman and Monongai. Burden and Frazier have something to prove, before I get high on them.

I have seen a lot of projections with the Bears automatically losing to WAS in Week 6. Besides the Bears beating them last year before that ridiculous hail mary, this is who they faced the last 6 weeks of their season, and they lost to Cooper Rush, then won 5 straight. Their signature win on the season was a Week 3 win over Joe Burrow and the winless Bengals.

I like these kind of videos that let you see the backroom of these teams. BJ saying he played the highlight film right before the draft tells me they were targeting Loveland all along. It seems like all the position coaches had a lot of input into the picks. It seems they stayed at 39 when Burden was available and projected the next 2 players they wanted and got them in the trade back. BJ was all in on the picks and obviously he had input into those selections. Eric Beinemy seemed like the only one very excited to get Monangai. I would say they got done what they wanted to in the draft ,at least, they like who they got.

It's out: https://www.chicagobears.com/video/scouting-the-future-inside-the-bears-2025-draft-1920-football-drive Some immediate takeaways: You always get the impression that "this is exactly what we wanted to happen" in these videos, but there's not quite as much video from prior to the picks here, so there is some wiggle room here where you don't see the clear "I hope he's still there in a few picks" that we did with, say, Odunze. There is a quote somewhere early day 2 where they say "we're staying at [pick] 39", which seems to contradict report that they tried to trade up to 38 to take Treyveon Henderson. Maybe that quote was from after the trade attempts fell through, but it doesn't really feel that way. There is a place where Poles pretty clearly maps out: we want another pick to hit LB, DB, RB, and OG for day three, which is exactly what they do, so it certainly seems like, for whatever reason, they didn't see edge as as much a need as pretty much everyone else did. It's funny when they take Hyppolite, Poles is like "are they going to have highlights for him?" recognizing that he might be seen as a reach.

see THIS I totally agree with! Narratives! They create clicks, but they dont mean anything. Now it is clear that Caleb has a lot of developing to do. For example, Ben Johnson has changed his footwork. GOOD. He will also have to grow reading defenses and making quick decisive reads. But that's not a problem or a negative, it's right on time for a young QB who just started with his first pro mentor. Caleb is neither perfect nor a bust. He's just a guy with insane amounts of talent, who seems to be working very hard to get better. And I, for one, would not bet against him right now. Cant wait for the season to start so we can see whats working and what needs fixing. It sure looks good on paper. Can't wait to see it on grass.

Bears journalists push any noise they here. I have seen many say he needs to address the book release information during the OTAs? He's learning the new offense now, do it when book comes out , screw what the media wants. Nothing in the book matters. He choose here despite the Bears pathetic past. The coaches are gone so why would anyone think that was good for him. The only reason the story lives is because the media keeps bringing it up/

Not sure where to put this so it lands in this thread. With reports of Caleb struggling in OTAs there's been a lot of useless chatter that he's not playing well. I don't care for much of that from just the first 3 practices where everyone is learning new plays and timing. However, Several reporters saw Caleb throw a nice pass to DJ Moore down the sideline, what was described as easily his best pass of the day. Ben Johnson just said "you can't do that". Nobody really knows what the "that" is but IMO it does show that Ben cares more about the execution within the play versus just getting a good result. Caleb needs a lot more of that coaching to break him of his hero habits.

All you can do is now that they have new people in place that they finally stay out of the operations. They paid big money for a coach and with Warren in place I think he shields George from Poles and BJ. Looks different to me.

I wish it was the stadium that was the problem rather than the McCaskeys. And they will probably never sell.

Maybe if my posts are too long, you can find someone to help you read them. Or just sound out the letters. You know, you start this every time. I say something about the Bears, and you come back at me with some over confident idea that Poles will NEVER _________, but you dont know, and each time you do it, it turns out youre wrong. Your pattern seems to be everyone on the team is great if you just give them one more chance. Rah rah rah.

I see you took your (IDIOT) response down. I guess you thought that didnt make you look good. Instead Novel #57 This is my last Kmet RESPONSE, he is a good player and they are not trading him. I get lost in your answers but I think you said ( they arent trading him) SO WE AGREE

Here's how the cycle goes: 1) I say something to the group. Something I've noticed, someone i think isn't playing well. I dont say it to you. 2) You immediately tell me I'm wrong "there is no way Poles is going to..." and call me pessimistic or disloyal or something. You probably heard Greg Gabriel say it - in fact, that's the problem, you listen to the wrong sources, and get so confident in what youre saying because they said it. 3) I wait the prescribed amount of time until the thing is proven and i was right 4) You say Im dredging the past while you continue to tell me factually why i cant be right about this thing. repeat. You also like to say that i must be wrong because i take the time to say things clearly and with examples. That is not an argument a smart person would make. "You must be wrong becasue you give too many facts" OK, thats wild. But for the last several years, everything I say, you're so consistently arrogant about telling me im wrong, and yet over and over again it turns out like i said. I don't know everything. I'm not an oracle you can ask any question of and I can predict the future. I'm not even particularly good at calling things that are 60/40. But these havent been controversial ideas (except to you). That Fields sucked. I mean sheesh just look at the film. And Eberflus. Again, he blew 3 games TWO YEARS IN A ROW! How could they bring him back? How could anyone have thought that was a good idea? And yet, you called me all kinds of names for saying it at the time. I needed to just believe a little harder and the wins fairy would sprinkle love all over Eberflus and Fields. And then Caleb comes out, and if you watch the games you see he is a tremendous talent. He's gonna be the best QB the Bears have ever seen, and I say that, which again really inst controversial, and the next thing we know, youre telling me some first round picks are busts, so we should take a QB in a lower round, so our risk isnt as big. Seriously? There's a long list of things you've jumped on me for, and I had to wait my years and guess what? I was right on all of them. For a while it seemed like i was a negative person hating on everything, but now the things I was saying then are common knowledge now. And again, Im not so good at predicting, these things have been obvious and easy. Thats why its so frustrating to have to deal with your constant flat statements about how we all need to stop criticizing the team, and Poles would never do this or that. Im telling you now. Kmet is on the bubble. So is Braxton Jones. Either of them can play their way into staying, but the odds, in my view, are against it. I also think they are unlikely to be traded now, but next year. Maybe at the trade deadline. Instead of thinking how unfair that is for them, and getting mad at me about it, imagine instead the NEW Bears players we will get out of whatever we traded them for AND the increased cap space it brings. The new players will be Bears too, and we can root for them! Maybe they will be a missing piece on the DL that brings us into a SB window? It's not negative, it's not mean, it's not even controversial, the cap numbers and the depth chart make it kind of obvious?