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For sure Moore is more expendable. If Burden balls out, then Moore and his cap hit are likely traded after this year. What I said before is that if Kmet doesnt play significantly better than he has, then he is trade bait at $11.6M a year. I also said if his play improves he can find a place on the team. The outcome of that remains to be seen, but Kmet has had some good plays this offseason, so let's see, Also I agree whether Kmet stays or goes, that 2 TEs is a big part of Johnson's offense. There are other cheaper TEs out there too who can beat a LB when Loveland takes the safety coverage. But if Kmet dominates, then of course he stays. And that goes for any player - if you dominate, you're probably gonna stick around, and if youre being paid a lot, and someone else can replace you, then youre tradeable. Im sure you agree.

We all know Ben Johnson was thinking that having two good TEs gives him Lots of flexibility on offense. He was very clear about that after the draft and spoke about it further during the off-season. With Olamide looking like a good WR3 we could extend him relatively cheaply. Jahdae Walker also looks promising as a WR4 next year. With that if you need to free up cap space next year WR makes more sense than TE. I’d think Moore could net a 3rd Rd pick

amen, Ill buy the first round for everyone.

wow! so Vegas opened us as favorites on the road. Thats good news. All of this says this is anyone's game. Lets go!

Since my name was brought up again, I'll say this; it's annoying to read something and question it to be told I should assume it's meaning. Words in person mean a lot less because of expression and inflection. Written words need to be more concise because the only thing you have is the words and punctuation. I choose not going to argue it anymore, because it's out of my control and I'd rather be bros than foes. Have a beer in me... Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference

Straight line athlete can’t bend. Not big enough to play with power. We already have Dom Rob in that role.

Most of the sites overwrite the current odds, but leave the "Open" odds. So that is the only place I see the Bears -1.5 now is in the open column like in the pick. Then you can see all the others are swapped to +1.5 for the Bears.

I seen on X that we are trying out Isaiah Foskey/DE that played for the Saints last year was a second round pick but hasnt did anything in the NFL.

ok well why does YOUR butt hurt? One wonders...

lol dude its Ok for us to agree.

I wanted 24-20 but you already stated it. So I changed up a little.

Butthurt is not name calling it is what happening when someone whines about something. "butthurt" an excessive or unjustifiable feeling of personal offense or resentment.

Im saying 24-19 or 20 Bears, so we are in the same ballpark.

23-20 Bears.

Swift is not a top 10 RB type in the league but last time he played for BJ, he had 99-542-5 and 48 rec-389-3. I also think we are discounting any effect Eric Bieniemy may have had in the RB room. I think Swift will be just fine for our run game. The key to the game will be the game calling of BJ vs the DC . BJ has did well against Brian Flores.

riiiight YOURE playing chess. you are completely delusional. Also, if you want to play victim, go read my original post - I didnt call you any names, it was you calling me butthurt that started that again. I think the best word for you is just to call you what you are: a fool.

wild, when I googled it said 5 days ago it was Vikings by 3.5, so that's why I said what I did. What you saw is, as you rightly say, the other way, and probably predates my 5 days ago. So then yes based on your report, not enough bettors were betting on the Bears. I think Vegas gets it right on the initial line, and then people get involved LOL Sometimes groups of people are extremely smart, better than experts, so hopefully not in this case. Sometimes narratives distort the group processing, which is what i hope is happening here. Do you have a link that shows the Bears were favored? Anyway, regardless of Vegas, I'm still saying Bears 24 Vikings 19 or 20. 17 wont be enough without a consistent pass rush from the front four. Hope Jarrett makes a big difference! The Vikings generally have a very good run defense, but Johnson seems to know exactly how to exploit it based on AZ's post in the podcasts thread. Assuming of course that Swift can find some of the same things that Gibbs does in that video.

I didnt bother reading your post after the jerk statement. It's actually very simply, neither you nor me have any personal contacts in the Bears organization so when we say something, its ALWAYS an opinion. I have been posting on here since 2009 and up until you started the ( I dont like the way you say something), I never really had anyone question the way I say things. Mongo did once but he doesnt bring it up every time I give an opinion. Once someone told me "some people play checkers and some people play chess". I now understand what he meant.

totally agree, and I also agree that where they have him ending up seems fair. And there is nothing that says he cant do better than that too this year. Soon he should be a top 5 QB, thats what you expect from a consensus number one overall with his skill set.

Oh yeah, for sure, but even then, he wasn't that far off in the dysfunction last year.

The line opened with Bears -1.5, which is what it was when I created the thread. Since then it has gone 3pts in MIN's favor. So people have been putting more money on MIN as they are now giving pts to the Bears. Bears +1.5 is actually a pretty good bet right now.

right. Im just saying the bet is where Caleb will be at the end of the season, not right now. when DABEARS said "Makes no sense for him to be this high with what we have seen - doesn’t mean his future isn’t bright though - but he has a lot on his list of things to really develop and to start stacking together. " I was just saying - right based on what we've seen would be the MVP vote right now, but the bet is what the MVP vote will be at the end of this season, after we see more things than weve seen so far.

man you are such a jerk - you really are. Im not the only that told you that adding words like "I think" before a statement is good practice. Instead you just say "Ben Johnson is not going to" And when I say my opinions the right way, now youre saying that means Im making definitive statements somehow? How does that even make sense to even your tiny little pea-brained mind? You are like arguing with a woman. You take zero responsibility for waht you say, and you try (and fail) to twist things illogically to make it as if I was doing what you actually were doing. Grow up and take responsibility for what you say. Also, what is this fascination you have with people's contracts ending when Caleb's comes new? Thats not a thing. Youre confusing getting the GM and coach aligned. The idea is you space your contracts out so they dont all come due at once. Otherwise, you resign Caleb and have no one left? That makes sense to you? What this all really is - is it upsets you to think about trading anyone on the team. You have some need to protect the feelings of DJ Moore - trust me, he doesnt know who you are, he doesnt know who I am, he doesnt give a crap about what we think. But if you look at the good teams int his league, they trade the good players that they arent going to extend. When young players on rookie deals challenge highly paid and good starters, then the teams trade the starters. This isnt rocket science, although for your tiny angry reactive brain even rock science seems too much. Take responsibility for what you say and stop being such a bitch.

so the line originally was Vikings by 3.5, and now its vikings by 1.5 or 1 - that means they needed to adjust the line to get more $ on the Vikings side. It means bettors are enamored with Ben Johnson and probably over confident in him? The opening line is closer to what Vegas THINKS will happen, and then the activity of the bettors adjusts it from there. Obviously too many people took Chicago and 3.5 points, so they dropped the line. So I guess Vegas saw the Bears as 3 point dogs, and the people disagreed.

Good stuff. There's only one Jamir Gibbs though. Swift can hopefully bust some good runs. BJ should know...