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You just made the moderators laugh with your butthurt plea. "please tell mongo to leave me alone, because I'm red assed 😭😭". 🤣🤣😂😂😂 Governor Braun did an interview with one of your networks. Look it up and you'll see how this benefits Indiana. I'm the meantime, go throw a hissy fit back the asylum. Hoosier Daddy...🤪 Sexy!

site moderators: i am not going to continue baiting the village idiot after this post, but some things need to be said for those who get their information on how the world works by staring at their cell phone and what it tells them is reality whether it is based on facts and/or common sense or not. 1. for any living being with a brain living in indiana... the state politicians are proposing spending 2-5 BILLION dollars, or a good portion thereof, on a stadium for a billion dollar NFL franchise that is too cheap to build their own unless the state gives them tax breaks no average tax payer would get. hmmmm.... so how does that work? what goes with this building the stadium? it's not free money that indiana is printing, it's what the people/taxpayers of indiana will have to pay for... building not just the actual stadium structure cost, but buy the land (which isn't included supposedly in the 2-5 billion dollar cost), new roads, maintenance costs after the fact, transportation restructure such as airports or train to get to and from the stadium, security such as police and fire protection and probably much, much more. just with these costs alone, you could easily add another billion or two to the taxpayers burden. obviously the mccaskey family won't be paying for it with higher taxes so that leaves your average business and home owner in your state to foot the bills they won't pay. so where does this money come from? normal state expenditures for schools, road maintenance and infrastructure repair. rising costs of security costs for fire and police, normal costs to run an entire state. just how much in the black is indiana's coffers? i wonder how much more the average indiana taxpayer has to pay for this over the next 10-15 years? who is paying the bill? where is that money coming from? how much will this increase your tax burden? you are running your mouth about (and i quote) "Indiana is using it as an investment". show me your hard facts in dollars and cents how this investment works. show me the real money that is gained by your state. it should be not hard to find as you can use your colts, SOMEWHAT, as a springboard for this so called investment (although indianapolis is the LARGEST city in the state and it's capital so what is hammond contributing to the total influx of state money)? explain it in black and white what the actual cost is per citizen and put it on a voters ballot then let's see how happy the citizens are with this proposal. so who is really making the money besides the mccaskey family? the large corporations and realestate developers in indiana. the construction companies building all the crap involved including building roads and so on. the realestate investors selling the lands for the stadium and land used for all the upgrading of the infrastructure. the mega rich hotel magnets and the actual politions who for sure will be getting kickbacks and campaign contributions from the mega rich/corporations. all this at the expense of indiana taxpayers who some don't seem smart enough to pour piss out of their own boots. also, when this nfl franchise decides the stadium is old and they need another new one who pays for that if they even STAY in that state? "It's not the McCaskeys this time." are you freaking kidding? this BILLION dollar franchise owned by a mega rich family has not even paid to build ONE single stadium in the entire time the NFL has been in existence!!! they have used the state of illinois and the city of chicago along with renting out an existing structure from bill wriggley to create a cheap venue to play in all the while increasing their brand and the value of their team. yet they are so cheap they don't want to pay NORMAL tax structures to build one in illinois to help their actual fan base that created their entire value. 2. poor you. cry me a freaking river. the state and the city you hate so much (and the people who live there) built this freakin franchise. i don't remember indiana being involved in anything other that a place for another piece of garbage franchise to screw it's original citizens and fans by giving them a cheap place to move to.

Exactly. Dam, just get a stadium for my Bears, and, BTW, I'm a Hoosier and I'd love it.

from what i have read and what is out there for information in regards to facts, you are wrong on nearly every thing you sited. 1. Contrary to claims that stadiums generate additional revenue or create new jobs, study after study has found that the construction of a new athletic facility has little to no positive impact on local economies. One economist estimated that the contribution of a professional baseball team is similar to that of a “mid-sized department store,” while a professional football franchise “has even less” of an economic impact.8 Some studies found that publicly funded stadium projects have a detrimental economic impact on the surrounding area.9 The negative impact is magnified when municipalities choose to spend money on a stadium rather than public needs. https://www.cagw.org/fields-of-failure-the-scandal-of-taxpayer-funded-stadiums/ 2. This is an issue because, to an extent people may not realize, stadiums are not automatic cash grabs. Sporting venues "do not come close to generating enough economic activity to pay back the public investment involved in building them," said The Atlantic. This is especially true when they are "coupled with lease agreements that funnel revenue back to owners or allow teams to play in the stadiums rent-free. But "stadiums don't actually do these things," said The Atlantic. Especially for outdoor venues, the "jobs they create are seasonal and low-wage" and they "tend not to increase commercial property values or encourage much in the way of economic activity, besides a bit of increased spending in bars and restaurants surrounding the venue — which is mostly being substituted for dollars that were previously being spent elsewhere."" https://theweek.com/sports/taxpayer-subsidized-stadiums this is corporate welfare at it's worst. cities/states and their taxpayers are paying billions of dollars to shore up a multi billion dollar corporation in the NFL and each mega rich billionaire individual franchise. this ALSO generates federal taxes that would normally be collecting revenue which now they are exempt from tax free bond ventures. like i said before, there is no law for them not to move anyplace they want to go. just leave the name where you got it and let the suckers that want to give up their taxpayers money to billionaires reap what they sow.

Every single sports stadium is taxed WAY less than the going rate for property tax? Why? Because it generates sales and entertainment taxes for the state far in excess of what a hotel on that land would. Its not corporate welfare, its an investment for the state that pays itself back and then some. I dont begrudge you your feelings about this, you have every right to them, and like I said, i think all of this is all really just leverage to get it right for Arlington Heights. But if they do move to Hammond (they wont) it wouldnt be the end of the world, or anything like the Browns situation. I cited the Jets and Giants as an example of having a stadium nearby in another state but still using the original state's name, that's all.

Something to remember is that when Warren was with Minnesota there was talk of the Vikings leaving Minneapolis (possibly for LA of all places) when they were working to secure their new stadium in early 2012. Evidently the approval vote for the city to help in the cost and stay in Minneapolis occurred on the 11th hour. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vikings-clear-final-hurdle-to-get-new-stadium/#:~:text=The House passed it overnight,the best for this state." I also saw a recent social media post that said McCaskey was getting a bit irritated with the process taking longer than it should be for this to be finalized. And that Warren was mentioned as reason for his ire. Although some of the corroborating stories appear to originate from back in December.

😭😭😭. So they are screwing Illinois by leaving and screwing Indiana by arriving. Ol George must be running around like a two petered puppy. Get this through your thick skull; Indiana is using it as an investment. That's what well run states do. You call us a crap state, but Illinois is shrinking and we are growing. Hell, half of your state tried to secede to Indiana last election. Maybe you should use your diatribes to affect change with the morons that run Chicago and your state. It's not the McCaskeys this time. I can't wait for them to build in Indiana. Chicago is a great and beautiful city, but is a huge money trap. You can't even park at a hotel for less than $100. If we want to see the Cubs, we go to Cincinnati. We can get lower level seats, hotel, parking and dinner for less than a Cubs ticket.

Dang, that's harsh. The Colts will always be my second team. Thanks for your valuable input.

1. so what? you believe closer justifies any franchise team leaving their home venue because some neighboring crap state will throw their taxpayers under the bus and bribe the franchise into screwing the taxpayers in the original state or leave? fine, then let them leave the franchise name where they came from just like baltimore did with the browns. chicago keeps the name chicago bears for the next franchise expansion and indiana can have the hammond hemroids or the hammond hamsters for all i care. they deserve the mccaskey family. 2. how are the jets and giants any different? just because they have been doing it longer? they screwed the state that conceived them and supported them so the mega rich owners can get richer. these aren't some mom and pop businesses but multi BILLION dollar corporations owned by millionaire/billionaires who want to squeeze the average taxpayers into paying for their business expenses, build them new stadiums and rework the city/state infrastructure at tax payer expense to accommodate them. why should they get tax breaks you or i wouldn't get? cause they are richer? corporate welfare seems alive and well.

follow the colts then. while you're at it, do the world a favor and never leave the state of indiana.

I heard Greg Gabriel say that George has already called the NFL administration about this matter. Not sure where he got that but he's worked in those offices before. He must have some connections.

I seen this many times but this is the first I noticed Grady Jarrett saying " oh my God,oh my God, what the fu** was that". https://www.facebook.com/share/r/183DjgFhR9/

Biggs mentioned today combine would be where the Bears would maybe ask about the picks. Biggs is super connected and he didn’t want to get Bears fans hopes up but figured fact he said it meant he heard they were at least going to try. Would be big to get those picks.

I dont think the Bears can lose him this year. They would need to use cap to replace him. If the Bears were bottom dwellers, take the deal. But we are in the grasp to compete for it all and already over the cap. I would only do it for a decent 2nd and gamble Caleb stays healthy.

My interpretation of what the Bears M.O. is that they will do what's best for Bears/Bagent on close to equal terms. I'm guessing a third and fifth rounder or favorable player swap would occur. It would be around the value of the Matt Hassleback trade.

I hate the thought, unless a decent 2nd is offered and if Arz, it would be. They need someone to step in if needed with little or no drop off. I expect Bagent has grown under BJ like Caleb did.

What I find hilarious is the anti Indiana snobbery from the Illinais. The same thing happened my freshman year at IU. Chicagoans talked so much shit. My simple question was, "why are you here then"? Crickets chirped. The fan base is what it is and once they stop crying, they'll be back...

My hope is McDonald and another DT, a DE, S and LT. Who we add in FAgency will alter where we pick those players. There is usually LBers and Ss that can be found in FAgency. Edwards, Byard came here that way. Draft DL and OL.

The only reason you would trade Bagent is because of the value you would get back, plus he will be gone at the of 27 anyway. I'm more in on bringing back nearly everyone and add a a few assets but I'm just doing stupid trade talk like so many pundits are.

My dream trade is Jeffery Simmons. I would drive DJ to Tennessee if we got that trade. Tennessee has tons of Cap space but it basically would just be an even Cap hit. Why does anything think that kind of trade deal would it take? DJ, Dexter, a first this year and 3rd next year? Dexter had 6 sacks last year and they definitely need a upgrade for a young QB.

Spot on with everything you said . I still think they end up Arlington heights but totally expect the politicians to screw this up. When I find interesting is the Hammond stadium would be 15 miles from Soldier field, AH is actually farther away. No matter where they end up , they will keep the bear's name. Santa Barbara 49ers - no New Jersey Giants - no New Jersey Jets - no I understand the nostalgia of bears being in Chicago but these are different times we live in. When the 49ers moved they only lost 1% of the fan base.

That all sounds good. Rome and Burden still have some growing to do. In this offense, Loveland could be the best TE in the league.

Seen that Rome and Colston are going to workout with TJ Houshmandzadeh this offseason. TJ thinks Colston can be the best TE in football. He was asked if Luther was going too, but he said no he dont know Luther. Rome needs some help, he needs to get those hands to wake up.

Tell us how you feel...🤦🏽 For starters, the Bears greatest desire is to stay in the city of Chicago. But, when the city is billions in debt, including 500 million behind on their payments to Soldier Field, there's a problem. On to Arlington Heights. The first thing they did, after the Bears bought the property, was try to shake the organization down for taxes on a demolition site, because they couldn't fund their school system without it. They attended to tax it as a viable business site. Welcome to the Heights, now bend over. Onto the State Capital. They told the Bears they wouldn't entertain anything until next year. (Isn't this year three of the Arlington purchase?). They didn't actually get caught with their pants down. This was pure negligence by the parties that be, as they new the family wanted to break ground last year. So, where do we blame the McCaskeys? I don't see it. The family is still hoping for Illinois to figure it out. Business minded Indiana sure understands what having the Bears would mean. It took our governor no time in getting a proper bill passed to the benefit the Bears and our state. Screw Illinois. They don't deserve the Bears.

I hope the Bear stay in Illinois. I expect they will land in Arlington Heights after all of this. But if they move to Hammond, the new stadium will be significantly closer to Soldier Field than the Arlington Heights location is. I dont see this at all like the Browns, more like how the Giants and Jets play in New Jersey. But most of all, the threat of Indiana must be real in order to GET to Arlington Heights.