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I decorated the condo, would you guess I am a bear's fan?

interesting.

Same here. I bet a parlay every week and have won more than I should. Plus, I have a big money fantasy football league that I was fortunate to have won. We've done that league for for 27 years. Same guys. We're blessed to have lasted that long.

I wonder how that really happened, coaching adjusting his form or off a performance enhancer? Little digging, college uses a different formation and the punter usually gets extra steps because they slide right or left.

Getting back to the game, we should win this game but we have played GB down to the end of the game in both other games. I suspect that will happen this time. Home field should give us an advantage.

Those are the same betting sites I use. Once I leave the country, I can't access those sites, I have a friend make bets for me. I am normally down this time of year but for some reason I'm 300 up. The bear's luck has rubbed off on me.

I bet games every week. If anyone looks at Monday and Tuesday they can see the Bears were -1 to -1.5 via Draft Kings and MGM. It's not worth the useless dialog...

Also, AI gets this backwards all the time, so if those quotes are AI generated, they might just be AI failing to understand what -1.5 means? But either way, I appreciate the info.

excellent, thank you Mongo. Of course I understand opening lines too, it's just that everywhere I looked, like ESPN, and All the Vegas casinos (second link below) opened with the Pack as 1.5 pt faves. I do appreciate seeing evidence of the other side of this coin. I didnt think there was any, given what id seen, and its good to know the truth, so thank you. https://www.espn.com/nfl/odds https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

The key search term is "opening line"

all the places I looked opened as Packers -1.5, which for betting purposes seems about right?

I believe the odds opened at -1 to -1.5 Bears. It depends on the book.

right, and thats because people will bet for the Packers anyway. For a while there you could do pretty well if you bet against the Packers and the Patriots (with Brady) and took the points. That was because the betters thoguth they were better than they were. The Packer and Patriots won a bunch of those games too, but they didnt cover the spread because the spread was inflated by meatheads who thought those teams were godly, rather than just winners. Anyway, Adam, I dont mean to disagree with you too much about this - we agree on like 99.9% of everything else.

The line opened at Packers -1.5, and that was with the Bears winning the division by 1.5 games, the Packers losing their last 4 games, the Packers losing the last meeting, and the game at Soldier Field.

exactly. even the opening line is meant to represent expected bets, so as to get even money on both sides and then no matter who wins, Vegas wins. And even more so when the line changes. But I get it. Our defense is ridiculous and it's hard to bet on turnovers, last minute comebacks etc. In truth the Packers ought to be 4 point favorites, but the Bears have some kind of magical heart this year that doesnt really fit into normal football logic. But all that said i really want to beat the shit out of the Packers this week. I dont care if we lose next week - this season has been a success. Hell, if it was SF or Seattle this week and we lost, Id be good with it, but not the Packers. We need to shut these cheeseheads up with a real victory. I'd like to see us win by 10 or more - and hold the lead through most of the game. If Dennis Allen has some tricky crap - this is the week to use it. I also hope Johnson features the run game and pounds it down their throats. Beat the Packers!

That's not how it works. Vegas changes because the betters are betting for the Packers.

The referee crew will be a disaster.

And he's only 21 years old. What a future this man has if he can remain healthy! In 10 years, will we be celebrating a decade of dominating performances by Caleb & Colston? I pray I will be healthy enough to answer that question in 2036.

Hightower still needs to go. He has turned a 4th Round punter who consistently hit 70-yarders into a noodle leg. In almost every game, the coverage units gave up more field position than they gained. If it was not for the kicking heroics or the blocked FG, he would probably be fired.

Damn, weather will impact this game. Looks like there will be snow and wind. Also, the Bears got arguably the worst Ref in the post season, fml. More penalties than any other set of officials, lovely. GB now favored by 1 on the road after losing 4 straight. Vegas has zero confidence in the Bears.

Yeah, basically the best TE in the NFL from Week 9 on. Incredible.

A great 'feel-good' story for any fan of Loveland was posted today on SI.com. It was very detailed in its comparison of Loveland and 2025 rookie TEs, as well as comparisons with rookie TEs from past years. A lot of stats, so instead of trying to copy and paste all of them, I will give you a link to the story if you are interested (which I am sure SI.com appreciates. LOL) How does Colston Loveland's rookie season compare to other top TEs?

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Those two and I think you see Mike McCarthy get a gig too. I also suspect Flores and Packers DCs get hired as well.

John Harbaugh & Kevin Stefanski will be the hot picks for vacant HC positions.