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And this is one of the reasons why Poles invested heavy in DB. This is now a passing league and having the depth and talent to be 6 or 7 deep and not miss a beat counters teams that are 3, 4, or 6 deep with receiving talent. Detroit dipped into this philosophy by taking 2 CBs in the draft, trading for Carlton Davis, signing Amik Robertson, Khalil Dorsey, Kendall Vildor.

Yeah, it really is hard to fathom. To think one of those 3 will draw CB3, a LB, or a S on every play is wild.

It's crazy. Two years ago we had zero number one caliber receivers. Now three? Unreal

There have been a few periods with 2 WRs, but never 3. Odunze is a WR1 on at least 10 teams, a WR2 on all but 5-6 teams, and the top WR3 in the NFL. That may not seem like a big deal, but if Allen or Moore miss any time, the drop off won't be massive like it normally is.

They have Stroud 10th on this list, but also have Rodgers at 8. If you look at skill position players, Stroud had Collins and Dell as his top 2 WRs where Williams has Moore and Allen AND Odunze. So Stroud's performance last year should be Williams floor to be honest.

True, but QBR is also roster-based, he is obviously producing elite numbers due to his performance with his supporting cast and coaching.

Statistically Purdy is listed elite, but I dont consider him that. Im more concerned about great coaches. 2-4-11-13-14-16-18

Not sure where Stroud finished last year but the NFL had him listed 8th. ( go by yardage) If he finishes similar to Stroud last year, I suspect he finishing top 15. Personally I would like top 10 and a trip to the playoffs.

I don’t think the Bears have ever had such good receivers, especially if Odunze is as good as hoped. Conway and Graham were good, Marshall and Alshon too.

Caleb comes in at #19, between Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield. This feels like a pretty fair spot to start at, though, I think he will be closer to to 10 than top 20. I think he will be better than Murray, Smith, and Lawrence at least. Lawrence at #12 seems too high for me. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-2024-nfl-season

I don't know if the Bears have ever had 3 top 30 WRs on the same roster. I think Allen is probably a little low and Odunze a little high (for a rookie) but regardless, this is impressive nonetheless. #12 - Moore #22 - Allen #29 - Odunze https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-wide-receiver-rankings-top-32-ahead-of-the-2024-nfl-season

Im not sure it was Fields only being able to throw it just to 1 WR. Kmet was very efficent and was 2nd in targets on the team. I think the trust he had in Mooney was lost the more he dropped passes. so he threw to DJ and Kmet because their drop rate was among the best in the league.

I respect your opinion that I disagree with, lucky for me the most important person in the organisation doesnt agree with you.

agree. I assume that there are enough good voices around Eberflus now to moderate that stuff, and maybe Flus himself would be less conservative with an improved roster anyway. My beef with him is less the mistakes that he's already made, and hopefully won't repeat, but instead whether he gives an active edge in winning or is just a good caretaker and organizer of the team. Either way, we have a ton of great coaches and position coaches and a good roster and we should be able to win. I dont see Eberflus holding us back per se, but if the time comes that Waldron is getting HC offers because he was good here for us, Id rather promote him and lose Flus, than to keep Flus and lose Waldron, but in the real world, without a smoking gun like more close losses because of HC decisions, I dont see how you can realistically do that.

and Lovie got fired after a season with a good record too. It's a tough business!

I agree too. For now. We’ll see this year if Waldron overcomes Flus conservative decisions when the game is on the line. I’d rather die swinging for the fences than pussy out.

The team's track record against good/great QBs is not good. Hopefully the offense will help that, but the best QB a Flus defense ever beat was Goff. Besides Goff, in the other 6 wins, they faced Howell, Hoyer, Young, Dobbs, Murray, and Heinicke. In 2022, it was Lance, Mills, and Zappe. So in Flus' 10 wins, only Goff, Murray, and Young are still starting QBs. That scares me a little bit. Here is what this season's QBs look like: 1 - Levis 2 - Stroud #15 3 - Richardson 4 - Stafford #6 5 - Young #29 6 - Lawrence #17 8 - Daniels/Mariota 9 - Murray #22 10 - Maye/Brissett 11 - Love #9 12 - McCarthy/Darnold 13 - Goff #11 14 - Purdy #1 15 - McCarthy/Darnold 16 - Goff #11 17 - Smith #14 18 - Love #9 4 games against top 10 QBs (Purdy, Lovex2, Stafford) ----------------------------------- 6 games against QBs from 11th-22nd ----------------------------------- 1 game against bottom 10 QBs (Young) 6 games against QBs without a QBR from 2023 I know it is not that easy, but just say the Bears lose the 4 against the top 10 QBs, split the middle games, and win all at the bottom, that is still a 10 win team without having to beat an elite QB. So just say they do and beat Love at least once, now you are lookin at an 11+ win team.

I think we know the answer on both of them as neither are here. Fields did not improve last year or take the expected leap that everyone, even myself, thought he would take. The one thing that stood out to me amongst a bunch was the fact that Fields could not work with more than one WR. Mooney had 1K yards, has great rapport with Fields on and off the field in 2022, then Moore shows up and Mooney becomes a ghost. People blamed Getsy, but I think that was Fields not being able to hit Mooney if he wasn't the first read. In a weird way, Nagy got a fairly quick hook. I didn't care for his play calling, but it's interesting that he got fired with a winning record and his worst season was 6 wins (his only losing season). So Flus is in Year 3 and has yet to match Nagy's 3rd best season or in 2 seasons Flus' 10 wins is still 2 fewer than Nagy's in 2018 alone.

That makes sense. I still think the way this new rule will evolve is unknown to everyone, and I hope it doesn't become a source of too many touchdowns and overtake the rest of the game, but what Wanny said makes a lot of sense based on my understanding of the play as it currently stands.

I understand the generalized comments about growing in experience etc, but the unforced errors that Eberflus made that lost us 3 games last year were not complicated decisions. They were things that even high school football coaches know better than to do. I do think that with the staff around Eberflus we will be fine, and Flus should not prevent us from winning, but at the same time we have lost the opportunity to put in a head coach that can give us an active edge in winning. At best Eberflus is neutral to the team. I also think that Poles didnt want to lose the locker room. Moving on from Fields was a big move, and he probably wanted to keep Flus so that he didnt lose the defense. I dont know that Flus can or will do anything so bad that he would get fired at this point. He's like Ringo in the Beatles - extremely lucky to be where he is, and he's going to get brought along for the ride. But if Waldron is offered head coaching jobs next year or the year after because he has done a stellar job with the offense, I think it would be fair to say that it would be better to keep Waldron as head coach than to keep Eberflus and lose Waldron. Unfortunately, there's no real way to do that without a smoking gun against Eberflus, which I dont expect. So we are where we are, and I think this team can go far in the next few years, even with Eberflus. But in a hypothetical purely logical world, where players dont have emotions, he would not still be head coach. But we live in the real world of human beings, and the situation has evolved as it has. Eberflus is going to possibly win multiple super bowls and all the coaching accolades that go along with that, but it wont be because of his skills. We can hope that it wont be in spite of them.

I agree with you guys. Keeping Flus was the right move. We expect Williams to be a future GOAT. I say future because he has a lot to learn. The transition from NCAA to NFL isn't easy nor a given. What we need to see this year are two things. Continued development into the powerhouse franchise QB we have all been waiting for. That is obvious. But in the process, he has to win over the team. Leadership skills. Can he motivate his teammates to match his intensity, maximize their skill sets, and become winners? I say this because the same can be said for Flus. Coaches are no different from players. The transition from an NFL DC to the head coach of a storied franchise isn't easy or given. While he develops as a head coach, he must also rely on his leadership skills. Taking a team that was (I hate to say it) garbage and bottom feeder and keeping the players motivated through a long rebuild takes unique skills. That he has already proven capable of.

This part is very important to a rebuild. Flus is building himself as well. He may have not been fully ready to be a HC, but what guy was going to come in and endure the rebuild? The in-game decisions will be much faster for him this year, not having to deal with Alan Williams stuff and also with the game slowing down, as it also does with players. If Flus is here three more years, it's a really good sign.

i SEEN WANNSTED TALKING ABOUT THE NEW KICKOFF RULE AND FOUND AN INTERESTING TAKE ON IT. INSTEAD OF A FAST GUY LIKE V JONES, HE THINKS SOMEONE LIKE R JOHNSON WOULD MAKE A BETTER KRer.

Tht's cool, my claim to fame was a 2nd cousin that played for the Bears in 1940 and in the game that the Bears beat the Redskins 73-0. (my dads cousin, I never met the guy obviously.).

We praise Poles for making good decisions with the draft and in FA. Yes its not a perfect record and many people think Flus isnt a good coach. He choose to keep Flus, why? To establ;ish a consistent winner you cant change coaches every two years or 3 years , its constant turmoil for a team. We lost a lot of games the last two years, but you cant completely change a roster and expect to have a winning team. Poor cap space and no first rounf pick his first year effected our record. After our 3rd draft we now see a light on the horizon. I think you have to give a coach cudos when he keeps a team together thru lots of losing. People think we need an offensive coach to suceed, but forget so easily Nagy was an offensive coach. How did that turn out. This year Flus will show his worth as wins start to show up. Did he make all the right calls? Of course not. Stefanski of Cleveland won coach of the year and did we see him make perfect ingame decisions? NOPE. Its a process and now that Poles has rebuilt the roster we can finnally see us have a winning record.