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Everything posted by balta1701-A
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Also, with the new CBA, the cost for a top drafted QB in terms of cap space is a lot lower. The Redskins clearly have no qualms about using cap space to try to grab players, if they have the QB to build around, that could set them up well enough to survive losing those first roudners.
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The obvious reply then is what happens if you sign Clark and he misses 8 games? I actually think Clark would be a good fit, but look, played 6 games in 2010 and 11 games in 2011. You have to have a backup option behind him.
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Dallas Clark would honestly be quite a useful piece if he doesn't just follow Manning.
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So, if the Bears had say, 3 wide receivers, 1 TE, and some RB's who could catch the ball, they'd be in the exact same position, as I outlined above?
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Honestly, now that Martz is gone, I can't justify keeping Williams.
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I like barber better in the role he currently has...but if the team has decide they're done with him then Jacobs would be a decent fit. The TD hog near the end zone is a role Forte needs someone to occupy.
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But there's a limit to how many touches can go around even with the great offenses. Look at the super bowl teams last year for example...the Giants went with 3 WR threats, with a TE and their RB's. Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, their RB rotation, and then Ballard their TE. I can't even tell who their 4th WR is from looking at their stats, everyone with more than 10 catches is listed as a running back or a TE. The Patriots have the 2 big TE threats, then Welker and then Branch on the outside. They had a moderate running game, but then only completed about 30 passes to RB's the whole season, and then they have guys like Edelman and Ochocinco who really didn't bring all that much even for a heavy throwing offense. In both cases, you've got the Running backs and then basically 4 plausible receiving targets if you include the TE, the 5th guy gets some occasional touches. I can even play the same game with the Saints. You've got their Running backs, led by Sproles as a receiving threat, Graham and Colston, then a huge drop down to about 30-50 catches each for Henderson, Moore, and Meacham. After that, blah. Basically they have 1 extra guy getting catches. These great offenses have depth, but that depth is enabled by the fact that they have a number of guys who are good enough to get the ball in their hands regardless of what the defense does. The Bears don't have a TE right now since Davis is a FA, that's a problem. But if you try to build a roster for the Bears, you need 3 WR's, one of whom is Bennett and neither of whom are Knox and Hester, a TE who can catch the ball, and then Forte + a TD hog out of the backfield. Knox and Hester, if Knox ever plays again, ought to be more than enough to fill up that "4th WR who catches 20-40 passes". Hell, Hester caught 26 last year and that offense was a joke for 1/2 the season. And especially if you can have Knox, Hester, or hell, Sanzenbacher or Davis wind up the guy who is constantly single-covered or forgotten about because the defense has to double team Jackson...then that sets things up just fine.
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Are any of those guys kept around as "Special Teamers"? I'd be a little shocked if they wound up letting Sanzenbacher go, given the Bears' depth issues at that position already.
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In fact, signing a CB is very likely to happen, it's just a q of the money.
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Hate to say it...but I kinda think that's almost overkill...Think about this...sign 2 WR, including Royal, then your top 3 WR are signee, signee, Bennett, with Hester and Knox (hopefully) already there, plus there's TE needs unless Davis is signed... Now where is this 2nd round draftee going to get his catches from? Even in the ideal situation, he's sitting 4th on that depth chart, and the Bears aren't exactly known for their 4 WR sets. I don't really want to draft a guy in the first or 2nd and then have him sitting there behind 3 other guys...those picks could make a bigger difference elsewhere if the WR slots are filled by FA. A 3rd rounder, ok, I don't mind him sitting as much because he might need more time to be brought in, but a 2nd rounder? Basically, the only way the 2nd round/1st round pick gets legit playing time if 2 WR's are signed is if someone gets hurt, and that's not the place I'd put that high of a draftee.
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I'd have zero issues with doing so. But, if you bring in 2 FA WR's, including a #1, I don't want to see the 19th pick spent bringing in a WR. If you're drafting one, grab one in the 3rd round who you plan to bury for a year or two while Royal gets most of the playing time.
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That might be something I'd consider when August rolls around if he's obviously not ready, but you also don't want to discourage him by doing so too early. If he's getting close come TC time, you can use the inactive list to keep him on the roster and maybe gain extra WR depth late in the season.
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Because even the reports that say that have been "Iffy" in terms of how they say what his recovery time should be. He might be "Recovered" from the injury in the sense that it doesn't affect his day to day life, but it also might actually still impact his ability to play football even at the level he was at. Since he wasn't the most crisp route runner and he wasn't exactly known for taking contact, if he loses half a step or he shies away from the defense even more after his injury, then that could render him nearly useless as a WR. And honestly, this was one Hell of a traumatic injury, so even if he's 100% by July, he might still need several months to get back to "Football condition".
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In some of those you have to consider where they're playing though when you compare their numbers. Meachem and Manningham were what, the 3rd options on their clubs, while Williams was the first option supposedly on the Bears? Royal had what, the Tebow throwing to him? Presumably if the Bears sign any of them, they immediately become Cutler's best target. That said, yes, signing a legit WR is still the priority and should be the only reasonable option.
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He's probably in a position where his friend was at the same club.
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You say the bold like the bold would be a bad thing though. The Bears WR's are so weak, so undermanned, that even doing that would be a substantial upgrade. That said, yes, Colston and VJax still need to be the #1 and #1a targets in some order, because the upgrade of a legit #1 would be monstrous.
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That's up to Tice. If he wants McCown back he's probably got the job, but Orton would clearly be a better option if they wanted to spend the money.
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IMO, if the Bears don't get better play out of their wideouts and offensive line, they will not make the super bowl even if the D-Line plays better, while they can make the super bowl if they get a similar level of performance out of their D-line but better O-Line and WR performance.
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If Colston is willing to sign first, then sign him first, but put your first phone call in to Jackson's agent, put the money on the table, and say that it's there and the clock is ticking.
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I wonder what Vincent Jackson's numbers would look like the last 2 years had he not been in contract disputes for so much of it.
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Saints Guilty of putting Bounties on Players
balta1701-A replied to Bears4Ever_34's topic in Bearstalk
What you didn't note there is the unwritten part...if you've got a felon providing money to players...in some way, that almost certainly involves the gambling world. -
Saints Guilty of putting Bounties on Players
balta1701-A replied to Bears4Ever_34's topic in Bearstalk
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It wasn't incorrect beforehand. He clearly would take plays/games off while in Carolina.
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Yes. And frankly it wasn't incorrect.
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Personally I think that landing Jackson and finding a quality opposing pass rusher is pretty interesting