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Wow. I assumed Bennett was better than that. Well it explains a little.

Good. While your there tell him to leave all his junior high drama in Denver. We need a leader here.

Now why wouldn't Cutler get the blame?

Here is something else to ponder... what happens if we get Cutler and we dont make the playoffs or get worse on offense? Who gets blame there?

The other thing is weird is that Hester is as dumb as a box of rocks and he was able to at least get on the field for some plays his first year at WR. He obviously didn't know everything, but he was able to get out there a little. Maybe they just wanted Hester out there to try and use his athleticism, but I also am stunned by the lack of progression by Bennett lasy year with the playbook.

Ok. I can't keep straight the speed guys with bad hands and the Nicks type. I agree I would like this type of "go to" possesion playmaker ala TO and Boldin. I just hope he wouldn't struggle with the playbook like Bennett.

lol Its all good.

And although I wish our fans weren't this way, I agree with you. I also dont think we are going to be able to be players. We aren't even in the poll on ESPN dot com on where Cutler will end up.

I forget....was the knock on Hicks his hands or just the weight thing?

lol. You just nitpicked my joke. You said yourself you nitpick so there IS truth to it.

Aren't you a coach. You seriously going to sit there and say practice time and real game experience are equal? How many players work only in practice and truly develop? Come on. While there is no question practice is part of the process, I have no idea how you can pretend players develop w/o playing in games. I never said they were equal. In fact, players DO develope in practice. Its really surprising that you are arguing otherwise. If you have a chance to get a player like Pace, it can only help Williams. Working with and learning from a 7 time probowler will only help Williams. And get out of here with your condescending "Aren't you a coach?" crap. Go do it and then come back and tell me that you dont develop players in practice. So basically you are saying that we shouldn't sign Holt because that would take away from Bennetts development which was already severly hindered because we didn't toss him out there before he was ready last year. Astounding. Come on. Williams is essentially a rookie this year. Pace may be on the decline, but if you have a competion between the two, there really is little question Pace should beat him out. If St.C were here, and there was a legit competition, I think St.C would win the job. That is simply the experience factor vs the talent. Talent wins in the end, but experience gives the initial leg up. Come on is right. So you would play a someone who is worse. Really? If Pace beats him out then Pace deserves to start. Williams can get game experience at other spots then shift over when he can beat Pace out. And if you seriously think that StC would beat Williams out, then Williams has no business touching the field at all. Obviously I disagree that StC is better than Williams. You dont put Williams as the starting LT, the most important position on the line, unless you have noone better. Yes, that is my argument. I think we have already hurt our chances to build for the future, and adding Pace would basically lock out OL in the draft. At the end of your statement, you mention "whatever draft picks we make this year". Understand, that is 100% my point. IMHO, if we add Pace, we will not draft OL this year. If we do, it will be in the 6th/7th rounds, and lets be honest, that is little better than not drafting at all. You can argue that we would still look at OL if we add Pace, but that is a different argument than our current. I view Pace as a roadblock to the future. As for the rest of your list, aside from Williams, come on. That is what you want to think of as our future? Beekman, fine, but the staff have felt all along he was a center and do not like him at OG, so lets consider him Kreutz' potential replacement. Omiyale as building for the future kills me. Why? Based on what. The guy has been in the league 4 years, playing on two teams, and spent half that time on the practice squad. Sorry, but as much hype as I read, it just does not seem like he is the shining star some make him out to be. He is far from a sure thing THIS YEAR, much less a player to build around. And Buenning? Come on. I swear if Metcalf were on the team still you would have listed him. But according to you, all Omi needs is a little game time to "develop". His problem was he was on the "practice" squad can't couldn't develop properly. Back to reality. These OL that we have signed this off season are not a roadblock. Omi and Shaf are signed to deals that are easy to get out of should a better player emerge. Pace would do nothing but help our line with his experience and leadership. Understand this. If I believed Angelo would still look at OL in the 2nd and/or 3rd round of the draft after signing Pace, I would be all for it, though I would look at Pace at RT. But my belief is we would not draft OL that high, and likely not until the end of the draft. To me, that is going along the same path Angelo has always followed w/ regard to the OL, and which has caused to us consider OL a top tier need basically every year under Angelo's tenure. I want to change that path. Simple as that. This is the only part of this whole deal I agree with. I believe we still need to use a 2nd or 3rd on a OL and let him develop in practice. However, signing Pace will make this team better and allow us to be more flexible in the draft. We need a WR, DE, and FS in addition to the line IMO.

Says the guy who nitpics more than anybody..... lol

The thing I question about is how that would translate to our team. On offense we can't really afford turnovers, and we, as fans, seem to have little patience for a gunsligner type of QB. Would we get a good Jay/bad Jay issue if his gunsliging ways led to a game where his picks lose it for us? And what would his mental status be. I'm kind of with you that two firsts is as far as I would go here. Washington in play is interesting though. We are going to see if Jay really wants to play in ChiTown.

haha I like those stats. Well played sir.

It might be a moot point. I just read that Washington is putting on the full court press. I would imagine Mr Moneybags can and will do what ever it takes, which would probably be to rich for our blood.

Thanks for finding that. I couldn't recall. Hopefully we will be taking a look then. Maybe he likes ol Lovie too.

I agree. He was above average in an offensive head coaches great scheme which is pretty much plug and play for offensive skill players. He was not a top 3 QB in the league. What bad running game??? The running game averaged 4.8 a carry. We should hope to be so bad. So Parker, what is going to happen when he comes to a team with a worse OL, WR, and running game? Bottom line is that, right now, he is not someone to mortgage the team over. Either a one and Harris or two 1's is the most I'd give. I have a feeling the Jets and Detroit will top that.

lol I dont think it was wayyyyy more like you say. How many were before the injury?

That would be assuming Hester catches it. He has dropped Orton TD passes too...

Its not going to matter. Even if Detroit offers their whole draft, JA will get ripped for not offering our whole draft and Harris, Url, etc.

" While I am not saying there isn't a level of truth in that statement, at the same time, it is an awful statement. Usually, your coach is looking little more than to the next season, while the GM is expected to look more long term. The two are expected to equal things out. If we are in fact in a situation where the GM and HC care only about 2009, I think we are in more trouble than we though. As much as any teams wants to build for the coming season, it should not come at the expense of the future. W/ that said, i am not sure I buy into that. If we used that argument, why not sign Holt? There is little question he would upgrade the team in 2009, and most arguments against adding him surround the effect he would have in future years. But if the GM doesn't care about the future, then I would think we would have done this deal. I could argue similar for other FAs we have passed on. " How do you know we wont kick the tires on Holt? Is he even released yet? Its not black or white. You can still look towards the future while prioritizing next year. But at this point, if you are the head coach or the GM its tough to look so far into a future in which you might not be employed. " But how do you know if he is the real deal if you do not even give him a chance. If we bring in Pace to compete w/ Williams, is there any question Pace would win that competition? Even on the decline, Pace should be able to beat out a kid who has yet to start an NFL game. So how you are judging whether or not Williams is the real deal? If you are judging this based only on camp, then I question the process. A player has to get the chance to prove himself one way or another, and if we add Pace to play LT, I simply question how we find out whether Williams is the real deal or not. " So, in your mind, starting at left tackle is the only way we will know if C Will is the real deal and the only way to develop. I dont buy it, there are mini camps, preseason and practices to see development and to get better. Also, you need to make up your mind on Pace. If he is in such a decline that he can't play LT any more, then Williams should be able to beat him out. If he hasn't declined that much, and perhaps it was injuries that have been the more the problem, and he is able to show he is much better than Williams, then sign him to play LT. If he can go at LT anymore, then put him at RT. But to just pass on him is crazy. " I would still argue against adding Pace to play LT, but if we were to trade for Cutler, adding Pace to play RT would make more sense. The thing about adding Cutler is, you are not just doing it for 2009. If 2009 were all we cared about, we could have just signed Warner. What makes Cutler so attractive is his age combined w/ his skills. You are trading for Cutler for now AND the future, and thus should be looking to build your OL to protect Cutler for the long term, not just for 2009. " Oh, so really your point is if we sign Pace then there is no way to build the line for the future. I would argue having Williams, Beekman, Omi, Buenning, and whatever draft picks we make this year IS building the oline for the future. Signing Pace makes the line better. We need to do it.

Here is the thing, Lovie and JA need to win soon. Pace makes the Oline better for next year, which is all they should be worried about at this point. If Williams is the real deal then they can shift people around, but if he is not then we dont have wait around for another draft pick to develop. This makes extra sense if we are truely a player in the Cutler sweepstakes. Get a vet Oline solidified so we can all watch the super all star that is Jay Cutler.

It wont matter, because even if JA does earnestly try to get Cutler and the Broncos decided to choose another package, he will be portrayed as not really having interest just like you said. Just like people were ripping him for not signing FA's yet it looks like we could get a couple more this week.

You're Cold as Ice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh so did I. All of my schools growing up were a mix of black, white, and hispanic. To me, we were all just people. Actually my first experience with racism was when I moved to Florida for two years in junior high. But still, I assume you still learned things about people and how to deal with and understand them after high school.