lemonej
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Yeah, I read that as well. He could be a steal at 18. I think he just got out of shape after his suspension and isn't back yet. He would be one where the Bears would surely have to monitor his diet and training activities pretty closely, but has loads of athleticism and talent.
IMO he would fit right now on the right side where he would not encounter as many speed rushers which he does have trouble with.With Chris Williams penciled in on the left side he would seemed to be perfect to start off on the right.
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If he drops to us I'd be all for taking him. Sure, he's got osme problems, but he also has the talent and has shown it in the college game.
Thats what I'm thinking and he should also have the necessary motivation to prove everyone that passed on him wrong. Plus we would be getting a top five talent for a bargain at 18.
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The Score is reporting the Bears released Metcalf today.
Not surprising.He had plenty of opportunities to gain a starting position and never really came close.His suspension last season led me to believe that his days were numbered.
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We don't run 5-7 step drops. We overwhelmingly use 3 step drops.
Last season all the close games that we lost in the 4th qtr was it because the offense or the defense not being able to hold the lead? Carolina,Tampa, and Atlanta are three games that the offense lead by Orton did enough to win the game come to mind.Why is there so much negative talk about the offense when the defense let this team down a lot. I think the Bears should consider one of the safeties at 18 also.Whether its Delmas,Cheung or Moore could all be in the mix at that pick.How about our inconsistent pass rush.Could the Bears be considering a DE? I wouldn't be surprised if they went that way.IMO they should get over their fears and draft a WR to give themselves another weapon on offense.I personally like Hakeem Nicks and think he will be a similar fit to the Bears offense as Forte was last season.
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Damn, rookie mistake. Double post.
hey nfo whats up? Its been a while.
Word from the Alabama Pro day is that Andre Smith only did 19 reps at 225 pounds on the bench press after he basically put all his stock into this workout.I can see his stock dropping even more and he may be in the mix at 18.Would you take a chance on this guy who up until his behavior just be fore the bowl game was atop five talent.
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Repeatedly the Bears under JA have drafted small school guys in the second round with mixed results. He is another guy that looks like he gets a little overwhelmed at times. Remember Roo Williams? He was so overwhelmed that he felt he didn't belong.First of JAs questionable second rounders. The second one was Tillman. TT I know your passion for the Bears is outstanding but D. Manning is what he is a small fish in a big pond.Letting him do something simple like return kicks until he can get the hang of the Cover 2 might help. Why did they get rid of Chris Harris? he had the same problem of being out of position a lot. D. Manning is a good return man but he has had to play too many different rolls on defense for his football IQ to handle. Yes I said it I think D.Manning has trouble understanding the Bears scheme.
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Oh just for the record I had the Bears after the first nine game at 8-1 with the loss being to Philly
Why? I have been a Bear fan for over forty years and I have a more realistic view of what they can get accomplished.They lost the leading passer,receiver and rusher from last season and we had no clue who we were going to get production from on offense.We start a new QB and rookie RB plus 2 new receivers .What did you see that would make you believe that the Bears would win their first two games on the road win they haven't done that since 1963?
Its okay to be optimistic but if you are a football fan you know the Bears had some major issues after a lackluster preseason and poor season last year.I realistically think 10-6 or 9-7 is an attainable goal for the Bears.
BTW Didn't your original post say you had the Bears losing to the Colts and now you say you thought they would win the first two games?
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Wesson relax man! This is just two weeks into the season and the Bears just played two tough teams on the road.Did you actually have them 2 and 0 after the first two games or 1 and 1? Now they come home after starting off with two straight road games for the first time since moving to Soldier Field in the 70's.Now they have a chance to play two games at home and they are facing a team that might have a little termoil going on in Tampa.After how Garcia played last season for the Bucs I don't understand the thinking of replacing him with Griese but, I'm not mad about it because I think Garcia would have caused the Bears problems with his mobility.
So after two weeks the Vikings who a lot of the talking heads pick to win the NFC North are 0 and 2 the Lions who every one thinks should be a playoff team is 0 and 2,while the Bears and the Packers are 2-0 and 1-1 respectively. I like our chances this week with this defense going up against John Gruden's offense.If we can continue to stop the run like we did the first two games I don't see Griese being able to be the Bears by himself.He has always been a guy who could put up some decent stats but tends to have crucial turnovers when the game is on the line.If the Bears get some hits on him early in the game he will start throwing the ball up for grabs.We witnessed this very thing last season which is why the Bears put Grossman back in.
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If he were borderline to make the roster, I am sure it was because of the amount of veteran Safties ahead of him, not because he did not have potential & skills. I like this kid and think he will do excellent in the NFL. I am sorry to see McGowan injured AGAIN, and out for the season. Happy to see Steltz get an opening.
Is Tampa 2 defenses usually this rough on safties or is it just our misfortune that we can not keep safties healthy?
No Pix I think our version of the Tampa 2 is rough on safeties because the most recognized Tampa 2 safety John Lynch was healthy for most of his career and the original Cover 2 safeties with the Steelers where Tony Dungy learned the defense always stayed healthy. Its also not a coincidence that Mike Brown's health has been good thus far this season since he has been playing more of the deep middle this year.McGowan was playing closer to the line.Payne OTOH looks like he is suffering from the same thing that has plagued all the other young players who have been tried there.At times they are out of position.I still think some time down the road that Tillman might wind up at safety and just might be the right mix of physicality,speed an coverage that the safety position in this scheme demands.If you have noticed Bob Sanders of the Colts seems to get dinged up a lot also.Its kind of ironic that he and Mike Brown are both smaller safeties who like to bring a load with them when they hit but Lynch was the same way except he was bigger.
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This must be the year that the Bears are going to go up against a lot of their former players and with the Titans on the schedule we will see Justin Gage also.He seems to be doing ok there.Gireise this week,Moose and Chris Harris last week and Wade and Berrian coming up.
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Unless this OG can play OT its not likely he would go that early in the first round.Usually the hot shot guards and centers go towards the end of the first round and into the second and 3rd round.I could see a scenario where they would trade back to get your player since JA likes doing that anyway.Now if there is a stud safety like Cheung of Oregon there at 17 I could see them pulling the trigger on that. I could even see them taking another OT also.
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Which TE should he have thrown to because one of the TE's had two critical fumbles in the game.The play that the Bears got stuffed on is the same play that ran on the goal line for a TD. I do agree that they should have used play action but Turner thought he could fool the Panthers or that they could get one yard since he had 3 TEs in the game.On that same play another of the TEs got caved in on the play by the DE who made the initial hit on McKie.So as a group the TEs had a poor game and I would have used play action and went to Lloyd since he seemed to be the only receiver Orton had feel for.The problem with all our speculation is that the Bears have decided that they are going to "Get off the Bus running"and if you can't get one yard in a critical situation you can't back those words up.
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I thought I noticed the tackles getting to the second level and throwing blocks while they used the interior linemen to cave in the middle of the defense.The FB would lead throught the whole first and then Forte was right behind him.On one play Olsen was used as a FB out of the Bears 2 TE set and he was the lead blocker.While watching NFL Matchup this morning I found out the TE as a lead blocker is a staple of Ron Turner's.The analyst showed a play from last weeks game and one from 2 years ago with the only difference being Clarke was the TE and Thomas Jones was the RB.The reason why both Jones and Forte have success with this type of blocking is because both of these guys don't waste time running through the holes.
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I think this is going to be a field position field goal type of game.The key is the Bears 2 TE alignment on offense.They split Clark and Olsen wide a few times in the Indy game which tipped off whether the defense was in man or zone coverage.Expect the Bears to do more of this.When they go to this alignment look for them to utilize Davis in the slot and that will be key. Lets also keep in mind the Bears have played the Panthers quite a few times under Lovie with some success during the regular season.Orton also has a start against the Panthers with a win so he should be familiar with what they will be trying to do to him on defense.
On defense the Panthers will be without Steve Smith for the second straight game so look for them to try and pound the ball gainst the Bears with Stewart and Williams forming their one two punch.This will be a LB and Safety game for the Bears D and tackling good is a must.Even though there was a great effort at Indy,this will be a much more physical game.
Special teams will be the key with the emphasis on Maynards punting,Robbie Gould FGs and Idonije blocking kicks.I think Maynard will pin the Panthers inside the 20 a few times in the first half resulting in Gould lining up for at least 3 FGs.Idonije may get a block of a FG early in the second half that will be a momentum changer.Don't expect Hester to get any clean kicks punt or kick off and don't be surprised if D.Manning gets a key run back.
Bears 19 Panthers 14
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I think we have to give them a dose of what is affective against our version of the Cover 2 short passes to the backs out of the backfield,neutralize their best defensive players(Freeney and Sanders)and attack the center of the defense with the TE.Also execute what the WCO is all about taking what the defense gives you.If its underneath routes then so be it.Be patient and don't force anything.
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The number one thing that will improve the Bears fortunes this season is an improved running attack.This will especially be key in tonights game.Run the ball control the clock and keep the defense fresh and off the field. As I remember from the Super Bowl the Colts battered the Bears with Addai and Rhodes running and threw short passes underneath the Bears zone.Look for them to employ a 3 WR set with Harrison,Wayne and Gonzalez in a bunch and Dallas Clark split on the other side.How would the Bears matchup with this formation.If they go to a nickel the Colts will hand the ball off to Addai.If the Bears stay base Cover 2 then Manning will pick them apart.
Here's My 5 Keys.
1.Run the ball and control the clock.
2.Stop the run
3.Try and take advantage of Bob Sanders in coverage with Clark or Olsen.
4.Get the ball in Hester's hands"By Any Means Necessary"
5.Win the turnover battle.
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I agree with you and if we look at the first10 picks of that same draft and see where they are now you would be surprised that the Bears aren't the only team to have made a mistake.
Check that! I just looked at the entire 32 picks of the first round and only 3 of the picks are considered stars Braylon Edwards,DeMarcus Ware and Shawn Merriman(Who will be playing on one leg and has been busted for a banned substance).Thats 29 other picks who have not reached a high level of play.3 of the top 10 players drafted that year are not with their original teams.2 of those are currently out of the league and 1 was suspended for a year.When you look at the draft this way it doesn't hurt as much.
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I agree with you and if we look at the first10 picks of that same draft and see where they are now you would be surprised that the Bears aren't the only team to have made a mistake.
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The Lions released Jonathon Scott he was pretty good in college but I'm not sure what the problem was in Detroit.
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Like I just stated before it wouldn't hurt to bring Anderson in for a look and Barton to the practice squad might be risky.They kept him on the roster for a reason.He didn't look bad during preseason.
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Thats where I'm at Chile. I saw where the Bengals cut Willie Anderson I hope that they bring him in for a look see.
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I agree about Toeina and I am a little surprised they kept him with Harrison and Idonije in the mix inside. As for Bazuin when was he going to play? Ogunleye,A.Brown,Anderson and Idonije will get most of the PT at end so that points to depth in the middle being more important where the Bears rotate players a lot.With Harris and Dusty coming back from injury you need another body inside.
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Agreed Pix This is what is making it hard to contribute to some of these threads because of all the unrelated posts.
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When Marriotti showed up here from the Detroit Free Press he basically was under the radar until he wrote a colunm about Michael Jordon not accompanying the Bulls on their visit to the White House because of other committments. Since that article he has been the self proclaimed voice of the Chicago fan when most of us knew he was a transplant with stops in Ohio and Detroit before coming to the Sun Times.
My problem with Marriotti is his articles were basically put together by his researchers since he was constantly trying to get into electronic media with failed radio shows on WMVP(Now ESPN Radio) and Sporting News Radio.If there is one thing you can give Mike North credit for it was his show that Marriotti was constantly trying to go up against and usually North's ratings crushed Marriotti's.So while he was pursuing all these other interests his colunms started to lose more credibilty with me because with all the production meetings involved in these various shows how could he possibly have the time to actually watch any of Chicago's sporting events.Give him credit for having a good research staff but also recognize the fact that he couldn't be in several places at one time.
The best thing about Marriotti's departure is there is a guy at work who would read his colunms daily and believed every word he said and now this guy won't be able talk sport's without those colunms to quote.
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That would be 2 very good picks if it fell that way but if the Bears passed on Macklin who according to that mock was still on the board I would be sick.This guy could hep immediately in the return game and WILL develop into a number one reciever.