Lucky Luciano

just curious... how did my thread and flea's get combined into one thread?

what a joke this franchise is. http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette....-going-to-bears

if i heard correctly on the score, this guy blew the bears off and is staying in pitt if so, this three ring circus just doesn't quit.

your link is broken. try this one: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...,0,775292.story is it me or does t-t-t-ted, the brain, phillips look like rasputin or possibly a blood sucking vampire trying not to feed off of curious george while on camera? anyway, at least we got cliff stein helping t-t-t-ted the brain in his search for a GM. they had me worried for a minute that there was absolutely no-one who had a clue about the game of football looking for our general manager. silly colts. don't they know haste makes waste? they should model themselves off of our president of football operations and really take your time to get it right. after all, what is six months when you are making this important of a decision.

ROGER GOODDELL in a statement to the Associated Press stated: "The Chicago Bears plan on using state-of-the-art 1960's drive-in technology with this cutting edge communications device. All fans should be able to tune in to FM 106 on their car radio to hear simultaneous play calls and Cutler's responses." "Also of note", Gooddell stated, "when the Patriots play the Bears, Ted Phillips, the Chicago brain trust, says the Bears plan to broadcast on a different FM frequency to confuse Coach Bill Belichick in case he happens to be listening in. So be ready to spin your dial when the Patriots come to town Bear fans!"

NFL commissioner holds press conference: ROGER GOODELL - "After reviewing the situation in Chicago last season, in which the Bears sideline rarely didn't call a timeout trying to get in an offensive play to their quarterback, the league has decide to allow an unprecedented TWO headsets in Chicago Bear quarterback Jay Cutler's helmet. Since it appears he will be at a league disadvantage by having a "running offensive coordinator" AND a "passing offensive coordinator" we feel it only fair that Cutler can hear both coordinators at the same time in stereo." "That said, we expect Cutler will be allowed to tell one of the coordinators to F*#@% off if he doesn't like his particular call."

ok, the only question remains then... is curious george mccaskey a complete idiot and ted phillips is only a human punching bag with a meaningless title? or is teddy, the brain, phillips running this carnival sideshow and HE is the complete idiot (which makes curious george even stupider for letting this guy do it)? or god help us, is virginia the REAL brains running this franchise and curious george is just a useless lump of sedentary flesh posing as some kind of amoeboid protozoan parasitic extension of her football knowledge?........

because "Ted" is the guy that set the parameters of this into motion. 1. lovie stays so the gm, whomever he might be, has to like it or leave it. 2. lovie smith stays the coach even IF a future gm thinks there are better options available. 3. lovie smith is involved in the process of who we choose as our gm. i'm sorry, but they have limited our choices from who would be the best GM to which GM is willing to work with a lame-duck coach he may not like or agree with in philosophy on the direction he wishes our team to take. "TED" also has limited WHO this GM can or should draft right out of the gate AND who he is going to find as assistants to work in this system. it appears the lame-duck head coach at this point has as much if not MORE control of this franchise than our new GM. so how many candidates with a clue will fit into that scenario?

well, then hope for dumb luck. didn't ted phillips give lovie AND angie his undying support in that 2009 *press conference? after 8-9 years of angelo he couldn't determine whether angelo could do the job or not? now suddenly 2 years later he determines angelo alone is responsible for the mess we have in chicago? if it took him 10-11 YEARS to figure this out what qualifies him to even think about choosing the NEXT gm and how long does he give THIS guy? till 2022? * http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-02...awards-ceremony

so the best we can hope for is sheer dumb luck. heaven help us, it's deja' vu all over again.

you are describing the job description of an accountant not a president of football operations. it is VERY important to have someone that has a clue in this capacity. do we want to hire another BAD gm? isn't this going to be HIS responsibility to find a replacement? isn't it also going to be HIS responsibility to judge the job that the gm he hires and replace him if he turns out a poor choice? isn't that how jerry angelo ended up running this franchise ship into a coral reef for over TEN YEARS? turn off some GM's? any gm that is a really good prospect will just laugh at these restrictions and not even bother with an interview unless he feels like being wined and dined by a mcdonalds happy meal is something he can't walk away from. wouldn't you? why tie your hands behind your back before you even sign the dotted line? just for curiosities sake, who would even recognize a good gm if they tripped over him? teddy boy? lovie? 'curious' george who is leaving it to these imbeciles in the first place? can you seriously believe a gm is going to come into chicago and ignore the people who hire and fire him and run this team the way he wants to? even with the 1-2 year stipulation on lovie, he is set up to fail drafting players that fit lovies scheme isn't he? that's one or two wasted drafts. i'm surprised they don't do it now. after all, he knows even less of how to be a gm than he does of being a coach. it only makes sense to me.

we have the never ending story of a lame-duck coach who no coordinator worth a dam and in his right mind would even consider. and like you said, how many OC's does cutler have to go through with this idiotic franchise? oh yea, we may get tice by default. someone who has never called an offensive game in his life. is 'curious' george really dumber than ted phillips? it is appearing to be the case.

huh??............. how does having a head coach in the mix of interviewing the guy that could fire him make any sense in the LEAST??? it's beyond stupid!!! like i said... AMATEURS are running this franchise!!

i think less appealing is an understatement. anybody remember angelo and jauron and his personnel decisions? his predecessor was fired for poor drafts. how does he draft for a lame duck coach he may fire next year or a system he doesn't believe in? how does he replace coordinators? what about scouts? what does he tell them is key for them to look for? where does he place his scouting department? what if lovie limps into the playoffs again does he have to extend his contract like jauron? like i have said in the past, ted phillips is the biggest detriment to this franchise. a president of football operations that knows virtually NOTHING about the job. the world is laughing george!!

well if that is the case and we get a free rewind, why not the teams we played also? do the chiefs never lose their starting qb, cassell?, for the season? do the raiders never lose their starting qb either? how about other players like key receivers or defensive ends? maybe offensive linemen?

agree. why put strings on the job before you even hire a gm. if you really intend giving him the power let him make the decision to keep or fire lovie. yet again this organization is run by amateurs.

cowher is still in the mix. jeff fisher is to me one of the better coaches in the nfl. he can actually COACH players to be better players. he can put together a good staff of assistants. his problem to me has been the owner/gm of the titans giving him garbage to work with and yet he still is competitive in one of the toughest division in the NFL while he was coach. so yea, i take fisher in a new york minute over lovie. same goes with cowher.

agree that a GM should control his personnel from the start. haven't we already gone the other route WITH angelo and jauron? in my opinion, i would hope a good gm, if we can land one, would be smart enough to cut lovie loose and bring in a better coach with some stability to this franchise. lovie just is not a coach i see winning a superbowl, or even giving us a chance to win multiple superbowls. plus he is a lame-duck coach that no 'good' assistants would want to touch with a ten foot pole. jeff fisher or bill cowher work for me for coaching choices. i would also like to see someone like tuna come in and replace ted phillips and given the reins to hire a GM.

really? while we had a very weak schedule this season, we only beat 2 teams with even a winning record with cutler, the lions once and the falcons. there is no possible way to say that we would be 12 and 4 if cutler wasn't injured. we lost 4 out of the last 5 games to teams without winning records. 2 of those teams were starting backup quarterbacks also, the raiders and the chiefs. the chiefs and seahawks were played in soldier field. we beat '0' teams with winning records and '0' teams with records as good as ours when cutler went down. so let me ask you, even with cutler healthy do you feel we were even close to being good enough to win a superbowl? even with every player like last season who was healthy do we have the talent to win it all? finally... we were outcoached and outplayed nearly all season. who hired/drafted our backups? who coached them? who penciled them in as starters? who watched them play on sundays and told us they gave us the best chance to win?

referring to an 8-8 season, losing 5 out of 6 games to end the season and missing the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 YEARS!! yea, who wouldn't want to to keep as many players and coaches together after that exemplary record?

the packers were on the *3 yard line. bowman is man out on the qb's left and is set just about on the goal line (three yards off the LOS). at the snap the receiver runs directly at bowman who takes a step or two back as he reacts. at this point the receiver breaks right to the inside (left on another TD series) just on or inside the goal line with bowman BEHIND him. easy uncontested touchdown that took only 2 or 3 seconds to complete from the snap. how this play SHOULD have been defended: bowman plays up on the LOS. at the snap he jams the wide receiver disrupting the timing of the play. after the jam he has to let the receiver by him and then trail him the rest of the way through his route. also by jamming him it should give the safeties time to react as to whether it will be a pass or run play and shift to help a corner in pass protection especially if the TE is covered. the safety plays deeper (unless he is in position to jump the route) and the corner plays in front. there is no "double teaming" the receiver at all pre-snap. if it is defended like we did, without any doubt it will be an easy touchdown OR defensive pass interference from the corner reaching over or holding the receiver to bust up the play. there is just no other way to stop that throw from the qb without the defender being in front of his man... ever. the fact that they ran this same play in exactly the same way THREE? times is inexcusable for our defensive coaches NOT to have understood this and left bowman on an island that did/will not ever work in that set. *this is all from memory as i have no way to watch the film replay of those plays so if it is incorrect someone state the lineup and how it unfolded.

i have to disagree. they wouldn't have been beaten 10 times on that goal line defensive scheme, they would have been beaten us a thousand times in a row. the only question was which way was the receiver would break, left or right, to catch the touchdown pass. you would have thought after seeing it the first time our coaching staff would have countered it by having bowman jam him at the LOS. but after THREE or FOUR times the same stupid play??? this is a testament to how really poor our coaches are. it was undefendable the way our coaching staff set bowman up. it is absolutely impossible to defend even if it would have been charles woodson in his prime unless maybe they thought bowman was really reed richards in disguise? no wonder the packers were laughing at us.

i would STRONGLY go for a high quality guard in this draft. a first day pick. we also NEED to draft a very good prospect at center!!

"Those who can go" - in order of importance: 1. PRESIDENT ted phillips - as president of football operations, i defy anyone to list his accomplishments that would come even close to retaining him in that stature. he is the biggest detriment to this franchise beside bad owners (who i would list first if i thought it were even romotely feasible they could be gone). if we had a real president of operations we would have been shed of angelo, lovie and all of his assistants years ago and probably most, if not all, of our college scouting department. as it stands phillips would not have a CLUE who to hire to replace angelo without going through the fiasco he did last time finding this organization a GM. so unless he hired another failure in tim ruskell there is no relief on the horizen i can see. 2. GM jerry angelo - should have been fired 4-6 years ago. he has failed completely to perform the most important aspects of a GM which is drafting talent for our roster and choosing a head coach and assistants to coach them. the only reason he could possibly have retained his job so long is because of complete incompetence by the owners and president of football operations. 3. **COACH lovie smith - a coach with limited abilities who is stubborn and arrogant who is a poor judge of assistant talent and if he has had any input in the draft, a poor judge of college draft prospectives also. his system of defense is antiquated and his ability to adjust it to the present and future nfl is poor at best. he has limited the quality and capabilities of any assistant coaches by this system with no real possibilities in the future of competent coaches coming to chicago. his abilities to coach draft picks and make them better at anything is highly suspect. 4. ASSISTANT COACHES - should be launched with the head coach with few exceptions. if lovie stays then the pool of any quality assistant coaches is so limited that i don't even see a replacement in the coaching ranks unless it is someone looking for their first job in the NFL. any new candidates would have only 2 years or LESS before lovie's undeserved contract extension expires. many have called for OC martz's firing. before this happens there has to be a real candidate to replace him. who is going to jump into this continual *head-coach-lame-duck scenario that has any chance of real success given the lack of offensive talent on this roster? it is even a worse scenario to fire DC marinelli. so just to replace martz or marinelli without any real upgrade at these positions due to our GM and HC’s poor status in chicago in my opinion would be counterproductive. 5. PLAYERS TO CUT - agree with others on: roy williams. just not consistent enough to justify a roster spot. frank ohmy. maybe the worst offensive lineman to play in the NFL. never should have come here at that price in the first place. caleb hanie. i was wrong, he is just not good enough or consistent enough to play in the NFL at this time. who I do not agree on: webb – many want to cut him this offseason. i do not, at least at this point. this does NOT mean we should retain him to be our LT. that said, he could perform the role of swing tackle similar to what st. claire was at the time at least until we draft or find better prospects (as if that will ever happen with the clowns running this sideshow). we desperately need depth on the OL. our top priority should be to draft a high quality LT even if we have to move up in the draft to do so. jennings – the same goes for him. if we cut him without a QUALITY replacement being drafted or acquired through free agency we will end up with who? bowman? graham? according to our coaching staff jennings is better than both. so either they are wrong (it wouldn’t be that big of a surprise) or both of these players have peaked out talent wise and at best are average DEPTH players. and yet again our poor drafting has neglected a key component to a defenses stability. barber – strongly disagree on releasing him. a very solid back that gets the short yardage. hopefully these mental mistakes are a fluke and our coaching staff can actually coach him to become better (another stretch i suppose) and keep his head on straight. ====================================================================== **"By Jeff Dickerson ESPNChicago.com ””I feel very comfortable having three years on my contract. It's plenty of time," Smith said. "I feel comfortable having all of us being connected together as far as the length of our contract. Again, I'm excited. It's exactly what I wanted." Angelo said one of the positives of an extension for Smith is consistency in the organization.” http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6157599 this was from an article from last feb-2011. in my opinion it just exemplifies the poor management we have. ted phillips should be slapped silly for this extension when AGAIN it was not necessary to do so and leaves us with a lame-duck coach like last time. EDIT: "three years" on his contract is "plenty of time"??? plenty of time for what? you have already have had EIGHT FRIGGIN YEARS lovie!!!!!!!!! and what else does anyone think that our idiot gm would say? certainly not the main thought that it ‘keeps him out of the unemployment office’. and “consistency in the organization”? yea consistently bad!!

i really did not want to get into FA trades and such here which is food for a different thread. but as you brought it up... 1. over the 9 years we have been discussing, 2002-2010, the normal amount of picks for any team in the first three rounds comes out to 27 picks. jerry angelo had 26 picks in rounds 1-3. A) jerry angelo has had 7 first round picks during this period as opposed to 9 which would have been normal even after the cutler deal and trading out in 2006. jerry angelo had 7 second round picks out of 9 even after he squandered a 2nd round pick on a DE who was riding the pine, adams, and he traded out of the 2nd round in 2002 C) jerry angelo had 12 third round picks out of 9. 2. if jerry angelo was a good judge of offensive talent would we have had to give up 2 first rounders for a quarterback in the first place?