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http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city...n-waters-end-up Has Guard Brian Waters been talked about extensively here? I personally am a fan of L. Davis but from what I read on Waters, he could be a good addition. Solid and familiar. However (and the other side of the coin) I recall this type of talk about Orlando Pace and well....you recall how that went. I read the part of how Waters' phone may not be ringing and with Davis still not signed I have to believe many teams are just waiting for cuts (say just before Preseason game 4) to make some last minute roster adjustments.

*Bump* http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5760/taylor-mays I could see, and encourage, the team re-visiting this later. Good point about October and eventual cost. Could be another steal of a deal.

Yep. I've given up on Taylor. Maybe The Whizz can do something with him. Would they be willing to part with some decent OLman in exchange? Say Womack, Lutui or Colledge? I'm sure he would at least be worth a 4 or 5, given their "desperate need".

Well since Mays hasn't been on this team, you would be right. But on a more serious note, I see this as an opportunity to evaluate someone who may be mis-utilized (IE: Okoye and Gholsten) and could be a value look. It wasn't all that long ago that people were wondering how much longer Urlacher is good for and where should the team look for an "heir apparent". I thought that would be Roach's job but who knows, having someone like Mays could provide more depth overall...and for the future.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5760/taylor-mays Hey Terra could you work on confirming this? Still think it could make for an intriguing acquisition. DeCicco is similar is his transition from college safety to NFL LB.

"Sweetness" and Barry Sanders pop in my head right off. Heck even Barber shows "fire" when he's on the field but talks minimally off of it. As far as linemen, Michael Oher comes to mind. It can happen....

I think the frustration, at least on my part is, that he he SHOULD be in football shape already...or at least as close as possible. Look at Cutler, look at Forte, look at the examples Mad Lith made in Barber and Hurd. THEY are ready. I can accept that Williams was on the Cowboys and maybe like was mentioned previous, Lovie's expectations and Martz' scheme demand more than he was accustomed in the big "D". If someone has as much experience in getting in shape as you mentioned and I am sure that Williams's has in his career, he shouldn't be waiting until after the first preseason game to realize that me may not be ready. I am encouraged to hear Brad's perspective that he "looks in shape" which is great. That means less work to get in "football shape". Like my original post, I want for him to do well in Chicago...I really do. I realize he may be a turd but right now he's OUR turd.

I think the discussions (amongst some of us anyhow) have been including putting Williams back where he should be, LT. In my mind, if Davis would come to Chicago, the lineup would have: Williams, Davis, Spencer, Garza, Webb (or whomever "wins" it). Apparently Davis does have experience at T If need be but it's been a long while.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/35/roy-williams WTF Roy? Why should Jay have to be covering for you. C'mon man! I wanna believe you want to do well.

Well Terra, for what's it worth and I wasn't a twit I would learn to tweet. And I might even "follow" you (whatever that means). My thirteen year old kid is on Facebook maybe I should ask them what it means. Anyhow to bolster your report I too heard this mentioned on NFL Network (about Davis). The Bears were mentioned amongst about 4-5 that were. They said he was visiting another team today (cant recall which) so it could be all for not. In that report they added that Davis was looking in pretty decent shape, like he'd trimmed down. I say if he comes to Chicago... Sign him NOW! As far as Hayden, didn't hear anything. But it's not to say he's not. I twust your Tweet.

Let me just say, I am a fan of Hanies. And I wouldn't assume to know either Hanie nor Martz. But if he is throwing interceptions consistently during practice don't you think that might be a good reason to "look at" another player? Not sure it has to do with personal likes/dislikes.

And just like that, Caleb is back at #2. And throwing INTs. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...story?track=rss And apparently Maybin turned down a deal by the Bears

I meant currently. But they were....which is good too.

See Jason? We can agree after all. I like that line up..and it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

Jason you dont give yourself enough credit. You're the type of guy thats glass will NEVER fills up. How can you be so convinced the team is done looking for another OLman? Is the regular season starting tomorrow?

I think the name Stinchcomb just popped up yesterday and L. Davis is still available. Those names may not be Pro Bowl but are they an improvent? Maybe. Are they cheap? Could be. Are they good? Teams are still 30 or so over their max roster, patience is a virtue.

Yup, think Daventry is in the same corner. So what if it's Hanie or Enderle right now? And to those that think this way, where was it said that Martz doesn't like Hanie?

DING DING!!! I thought there must be someone else out there who agreed with me. If recollection serves me right, Williams played zero in his position year one due to a lingering back injury. Then suddenly Tice comes in (or sometime near that time frame) and he is moved to Guard. Although I'm still convinced LAST YEAR they did it to work on his footwork. Yet he is still there. Obviously out of position. The question I have now is why is he not back where he should be, at LT? Not sure how "they" can evaluate him on a position he has virtually not played since coming into the League.

I like this guy Mullin. Sensible. I think the missing piece is out there somewhere via FA. The starting members will probably include (IMHO): Carimi, Garza, Williams, Spencer and Webb or that "missing piece".

From what I've been "hearing/reading" most of Osi's motivation was to get back as his replacement, Jason Paul-Pierre, had a pretty good game with Carolina. And as I was suggesting in another thread the Giants were using that to their advantage. Could Osi come out and play spectacular? Sure, but so could the oline not wanting to repeat last years debacle. As Herm Edwards would say, "Thats why we play the game". Couldas and shouldas don't win games. Perhaps Osi will get tired of trying to chase down the Bears RBs all night in quick handoff schemes etc. Or he'll be run ragged from a constant barrage of Barber and/or Unga and Bell. Or who knows, one of the monster TEs the Bears have now will keep him at bay? Guess we'll see. Don't "throw out the baby with the bath water just yet".

....or perhaps they want to see what they have in Enderle? Putting him at #2 now really is insignificant. If for no other reason than to get him some more time to play more in the next one or two pre-season games. I wouldn't read into the "reports" of Hanie being upset too much. "They" said the same about Forte and Knox and both have personally shown and expressed otherwise.

I just mentioned they COULD play hardball. I would hope they wouldnt. I keep hearing "it's a business" and that is something to consider. I would never discount anything. Whodda thunk the Bears would have ever been a player for Cutler then Peppers the following year? They have broke from conventional wisdom before. I'm just sayin.

Another thing to consider and hopefully the team won't consider this. With the "prospect" of Bell doing well and belief he will stay good they could play hardball similar to what the Giants are doing with Umenyiora. While he (U) missed practice they had that second year player (can't remember his name but it was hyphenated) that played really well in the first preseason. Seeing that, Umenyiora found out he could become expendable. And thusly decided to play, or so it would seem. Again, I would hope the team wouldn't pull that on Forte but it could very much influence the negotiations. Which could sully things a bit.

A little more thinking on this. I was listening to the announcers and they brought up a good point. He will earn a reputation for hits like this and when it happens again, they will not hesitate in throwing a flag. I agree that had this happened 30-50 years ago it might have been accepted, but not so much anymore. Besides, looking at the play he was high on the tackle and should have known better that what he was doing could potentially cause an injury. Had he been more mid-level, it might have been more understood. At any rate, I was encouraged to hear that Coach Schwartz is wanting Suh to keep up the intensity but not make bad choices. Guess we'll see how it goes.

Was watching this video and thought that since our team will be meeting Detroit twice again, this is a concern. And he already has history.... So what say you...stupid or aggressive play? http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...HP11_hot_topics