ChileBear

And look at how many games we've won the three years he has been our QB. Numbers don't win games, players do and Fields is not a winning NFL QB and I doubt he ever will be, no matter the coach or oline or receiving corp. Yes, you guessed it, I'm done with Fields and I wanted him to do well, but he can't do it for all the athleticism he has.

Three years in and Fields is still not a reliable NFL QB. Those numbers from MNF are pathetic and if he hasn't done it consistently yet, it is not going to happen. I think Poles knows it at this point and we'll bring in a new QB via the draft. All the excuses are just that, excuses for the guy that can't be trusted to make the necessary reads, get rid of the ball in a timely manner and put the team on his shoulders and get that gutsy win. Nope, that is not Justin. Get rid of him or bring in his replacement and let Fields play his way out of the job next year, but he will because he doesn't have the skills to be a top NFL QB.

Yep, Fields cannot read the D and the coaches do not trust him too , so that is missing from the offenses arsenal.

And he has had some injuries.

Likeable guy, not a good NFL head coach. It's a business, we have to jettison him at the end of the season.

Isn't Fields up for a new contract next year? THAT is going to complicate keeping/paying him and drafting a top QB. Just saying. Having Fields and a top QB drafted would be ideal.

I do believe the coaching staff is gone at the end of the season. So many dumb mistakes from these "professionals" that everyone watching knows they were dumb. I just can't see Poles brining back this group of incompetents. Games that were thrown away by coaching errors have been too many. And my God, you hear Flus on an interview and you'd think we were a nose from the Super Bowl. No fricking awareness of reality.

What a shit-show. Embarrassing.

I hope so. And the Cards winning a few with Murray would be a plus. NE is another matter.

I hear ya. And agree that there are so many other factors that go into it. I just do not see fields with the moxy to put the team on his back and finish a game. I like him, but I don't see the IT factor with him. Maybe it is all coaching, but he has had three years, bleak years for us as fans, to do something that would make me confident when he needs to finish a game. I don't, and the big issue is we are approaching a draft situation with, probably, the best positioning ever to improve our team. Right now I'm for trading him, but the season's not over yet. Plenty can happen.

Problem is there a bunch of really bad teams this season. What a terrible product the grat NFL is putting out this year.

3rd year in and we're still finding excuses for why Fields is better than he looks. Hell, I'm tired of loss after loss, not being able to mount any kind of comeback in a game, blaiming it all on everybody but the most impt. guy on the field. Justin has had enough opportunities. I'm done with him. And as far as who I would want if we draft, its not C.Williams, he's another Fields and that aint' gonna work.

The Giants are the worst team and they'll either end up with the first or second pick when it's all over. Hope I'm wrong.

When he brings home a victory when they are trailing on the last drive then, and only then, will I worship at the altar of Justin. He's just another athletic QB who is inconsistent and has trouble seeing the field. When we got behind at the end of the game I had 0 faith he would lead a winning drive. Tired of the excuses about "he was good, but we still lost." Winners don't do that and he's now on year three. If he was going to be a franchise QB he'd have shown it by now. imDo, we gotta move on from him along with the crappy group of coaches.

But he is incapable of leading a drive at the end of a game to pull out a win. He isn't it.

Agree on all counts. We'll never be the Monsters of the Midway with this staff.

I agree. Flus is a very good DC, but over his head as HC. Listening to him every week on Waddle and Silvy makes it clear he is struggling at the HC level. He has to go and we need an offense minded HC who can get competent coordinators if we are going to bring the Lomabardi trophy to Chicago.

After so many TOs the week before, they really played it cautious with Bagent. I too doubt that he lost confidence, he's still a rookie and this is the big time and he lacks experience, but he is getting it now and I like how he has responded.

No kidding. They are whiffing all over the place on D.

Don't be surprised if the NYG end up with the top pick and it's conceivable that NE Pats move up. We're playing to win games-coahces want to save their job and Fields wants to prove he's got it, and we probably will win some more. With Murray coming back, the Cards are going to be playing to win. Carolina is probably our best option for top pick now. NYG are a mess and, right now, the best bet to be tanking the rest of the season. I'm beginning to doubt that we'll have 2 of the top five picks now.

Toward the end of game the announcers said LA was clogging middle and forcing those perimeter throws. And agree, 2nd NFL start and he did not crap the bed like some past excuses we've had for many years.

Everyone on here is too.

We should have looked like this 5 games ago. Maybe we're building for next year, but that would mean Eberflus stays and I don't think he is our answer as head coach.

With many QBs there is a hero complex that takes over and they believe their talent alone will win in every situation. They are trying to win the game every play. Great on paper, but in real life they can not score on every play. ImDo that's Fields' problem and I see it in Williams. they hold the ball way too long and think they are back in high school or college where there was such a talen discrepancy they often did sucede. The NFL is not like that and they hit a wall.

Williams just reminds me of Fields. Why bring in a clone?