ChileBear

Didn't hear that, but not surprised.

Agreed. Williams is a prima donna and I want us to get a king's ransom for the no. 1. There are other QBs in this draft that can sit behind Fields while Poles builds a balanced, deep team.

I think we lost that game.

Agreed. He's a good coach, but not elite.

I may vomit 'cause I want the Panthers to lose.

Saw that too. And I agree with you that Fields is a good runner, but teams have figured out he does not read Ds and he holds the ball too long. If, as Sanchez said, we can't have him and a rookie QB too, then I guess Fields has to go. I feel that Fields wouldn't be such a distraction.

I get your point Alaska, but do you think Justin will ever take us to the Super Bowl? I don't and he hasn't shown the HE has IT to beat teams. Hell, he was spotted a ten point lead yesterday and did nothing in the second half to convince me he's a winner. Talented, yes he has talent. QB talent? Nope. I think the smartest thing for us is to keep Fields, trade the No. 1 pick for more picks (another no. 1 for next year) and then draft a QB latter in the draft. And Harbaugh is not going to be an option here because Warren was his enemy when he ran the Big Ten.

Yep, if the choice is keeping Fields or drafting Williams, I keep Fields.

He's not playing that game. And I agree, i'd pass on him as no. 1.

Yep. Just watched the Chargers game and the Pat are really bad.

Something like that is way beyond the coaching staff we now have. Bringing in a competent group has to be a priority this offseason.

Agreed. Justin has exceptional athletic ability. I just don't think he'll ever develop into a top QB. But hey, maybe the OC from the Raven could do it here?

I think you presented a lot of the excuses for Fields in the first part of your post. No denying he has faced hurdles as a pro, but still I havn't seen anything that says he's developed into a QB that can overcome those and still produce. He just lacks the ability to see the field and react quickly with the passes. Taht being said, I do agree with your last part. Our two picks can set up the franchise, and us fans, for a very good future.

And look at how many games we've won the three years he has been our QB. Numbers don't win games, players do and Fields is not a winning NFL QB and I doubt he ever will be, no matter the coach or oline or receiving corp. Yes, you guessed it, I'm done with Fields and I wanted him to do well, but he can't do it for all the athleticism he has.

Three years in and Fields is still not a reliable NFL QB. Those numbers from MNF are pathetic and if he hasn't done it consistently yet, it is not going to happen. I think Poles knows it at this point and we'll bring in a new QB via the draft. All the excuses are just that, excuses for the guy that can't be trusted to make the necessary reads, get rid of the ball in a timely manner and put the team on his shoulders and get that gutsy win. Nope, that is not Justin. Get rid of him or bring in his replacement and let Fields play his way out of the job next year, but he will because he doesn't have the skills to be a top NFL QB.

Yep, Fields cannot read the D and the coaches do not trust him too , so that is missing from the offenses arsenal.

And he has had some injuries.

Likeable guy, not a good NFL head coach. It's a business, we have to jettison him at the end of the season.

Isn't Fields up for a new contract next year? THAT is going to complicate keeping/paying him and drafting a top QB. Just saying. Having Fields and a top QB drafted would be ideal.

I do believe the coaching staff is gone at the end of the season. So many dumb mistakes from these "professionals" that everyone watching knows they were dumb. I just can't see Poles brining back this group of incompetents. Games that were thrown away by coaching errors have been too many. And my God, you hear Flus on an interview and you'd think we were a nose from the Super Bowl. No fricking awareness of reality.

What a shit-show. Embarrassing.

I hope so. And the Cards winning a few with Murray would be a plus. NE is another matter.

I hear ya. And agree that there are so many other factors that go into it. I just do not see fields with the moxy to put the team on his back and finish a game. I like him, but I don't see the IT factor with him. Maybe it is all coaching, but he has had three years, bleak years for us as fans, to do something that would make me confident when he needs to finish a game. I don't, and the big issue is we are approaching a draft situation with, probably, the best positioning ever to improve our team. Right now I'm for trading him, but the season's not over yet. Plenty can happen.

Problem is there a bunch of really bad teams this season. What a terrible product the grat NFL is putting out this year.

3rd year in and we're still finding excuses for why Fields is better than he looks. Hell, I'm tired of loss after loss, not being able to mount any kind of comeback in a game, blaiming it all on everybody but the most impt. guy on the field. Justin has had enough opportunities. I'm done with him. And as far as who I would want if we draft, its not C.Williams, he's another Fields and that aint' gonna work.