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Happy to get behind whichever QB we draft, but might as well have cut him for the return. Feels like we’ve been fleeced.

I have watched some tape on Williams and cannot see any strengths that are Fields weaknesses. Most people say the barrier to Fields being a success is him reading defences and making anticipatory throws. I haven’t seen Williams show this is a strength in his game. If you want to use empirical analysis, you need to separate fact from opinion. These are the facts that base my wish to keep Fields. 1) Fields has been saddled with a poor oline, receivers and play callers. 2) The roster has been decimated around Fields and it has had an impact on his lack of success. 3) Fields had greater success in college than Williams. 4) Fields played against superior competition than Williams. 5) Trading the No. 1 pick will return greater draft capital than trading Fields. Finally my concern with trading Fields is the roster is starting to come together and we have addressed points 1 and 2. I want another year with Fields playing in an offense that should not hold him back and a defense that is competitive. If we get a great haul of draft picks from trading no.1 including a no. 1 in 2025, if Fields bums out, we can move on and the QB we bring in will be on a team that is built to not hinder a rookie QB.

I think that is a strong statement to say Fields will soon be out of the NFL. Can you clarify soon, do you means after 2025. Also he won’t start another game. I think it’s unlikely. My hypothesis is whatever way Poles goes we need luck, fate, karma or whatever you call it to be lucky, and no one can categorically state Williams will have a better career than Fields or vice a versa.

My point that it’s a crapshoot is will always point to Tom Brady and you do not need to the take a QB high in the first round. Regarding Williams being a generational talent QB is Williams’ profile better than Andrew Luck. The Colts moved on from Manning and if they had instead kept Manning, traded the pick and got a large haul of capital, drafted well, the Colts might have won another Super Bowl for example instead the one won by Denver. I don’t think keeping Fields necessary equates to a decade of doom. Like others have pointed out, if we strengthen the team we might be able to win with Fields. I’m sure the season when we made the superbowl with Grossman, we could have won a second Super Bowl with Fields under centre.

I think we can all agree that drafting QBs is a crapshoot. It’s a lottery that no one can predict. My dream scenario would be to trade with a team where we can still get the best WR and the other team has a terrible season and we have their top 5 pick. Justin plays really good and we have a choice to sign him to a contract, take the 5th option, trade him because he a quality starter or we draft a good QB prospect and bring him into a great roster where our QB is on a team friendly contract and we can add quality depth. I have a good vibe with Poles who seems to be bringing in good free agents, can draft well and does not over over pay on contracts. Does anyone else feel that in our search for general managers we have finally hit with Poles.

I’m not opposed to drafting Williams or trading Fields. If Pittsburg swap Alex Highsmith for Fields I’m probably drafting Williams unless Poles has good grades on another QB then I’m hoping Washington gives a huge draft haul and we take that QB at 3 or 4. Our hand is strong because we can go several ways.

Totally agree that anything should be on the table. Whichever way Poles goes I feel more positive than I have in years and probably as far back as 2018 when we overachieved with Nagy.

With these picks I looked at a list of the top 100 prospects and choose the following. Would this strengthen the team? No 6 Rome Odonze WR No 9 Troy Fautanu OT NO 34 Darius Robinson DL NO 36 Austin Booker EDGE No 70 Cedric Van Pran-Granger C No75 Jeremiah Trotter Jnr LB

If we draft Williams or keep Fields and trade the 1st pick, the only thing I’m interested is Poles chooses the best deal. Fields is unlikely to carry the team on his own, but this is a team game, and if you put Fields in the great teams that won superbowls with serviceable QBs I’m sure they would have still been winners. I’m all in for improving the team. if we get a deal similar or better to what Carolina did, I’m sure we could be successful with Fields. Would you keep Fields if we swap 1st round picks with Washington to receive their 2nd round pick at 36. Then we swap picks 1st’s with New England for their 2nd at 34. Then if we 1st with New York for their 2nd (no 47) and 3rd (70). We could then take the best players at 1st (6), 1st (9), 2nd(34), 2nd (36), 3rd (70) and 3rd(75). Having 6 picks, if they are hits, in the first 75 picks should enable the Bears to be better with Fields, opposed to taking Williams at no 1 and trading down from the 9th. What would you do, I know we would get slightly better than the value chart, but teams will overpay for QBs.

What does Ryan Poles need to do so the Bears start getting some compensatory picks in 2025 and to regularly receive them in the future. It seems like teams like the 49ers know how to manage the system. What are we doing wrong?

Cousins has amassed fantastic generational wealth for a player who never has had great success. What a waste of money spent by Washington, Minnesota and now Atlanta.

Happy New Year, everyone, speak again during the draft. Fingers crossed we have an amazing off season. The best franchise in the NFL should have a greater level of success than we are currently getting.

Evident the ream didn’t give this the same importance to this game as the fans which is worrying. Had no DLine pressure all game. The oline was terrible. Play calling was suspect. I will admit that Fields never performed at a decent level. I’m absolutely gutted because the season again has been hard but if we had put in a half decent effort, finishing the season by keeping the Packers out of the playoffs would have been nice.

What is clear we aren’t interested in winning this game. If it was the other way around I’m sure the Packers would be invested in knocking out the Bears.

The last play no wide receiver was free, the oline failed to block and the sack was on Fields ???????????

It easy when he’s not got anyone in his face.

It’s frustrating that everything is put on Fields when the line play has been inept, play calling has not been to our strength and the DLine as hardly shown up.

7-6 is great considering we are being strangled by poor calling, and some players effort show they are already on the beach. I’m pissed, I was hoping for a great team effort. Hopefully Flus puts a fire up them, he needs to or I cannot see him coming back. What is best for the Bears is a great 2nd half so the majority of the coaches come back, and we move forward with Fields. If the coaches are good enough and Fields can perform at a great level, Poles can put is in a great position with our potential draft capital and available money for free agency.

Shame we have to have Whitehair back at G because he knows he’s not coming back so is unlikely to put his body on the line.

I hope the players and coaches know we want to win today and not tank. Either the Packers are significantly better than us or we have chosen to not turn up. I suppose players don’t want to get hurt in a meaningless game but it would be great if we could win today. I cannot see us winning if this is how we will perform today.

Oline needs to put up a fight. Thought we would be stronger with Freeney at centre.

I don’t care about the draft position I good win should be the building block for a competitive season next year. We have the No. 1 pick and should get great capital if we trade the pick. I’m hoping the Fields has a statement game ????

Bucs won and Saints look like they will win. All is now aligned for knocking out the cheese heads. if we win will where will we finish in the NFC North now that the Vikings have lost?

1) Considering Flus losing his D coordinator, Fields getting injured, injuries all over the oline and the media scrutiny, I think he’s done well and winning out should be rewarded with another year. If he is retained I hope he continues calling play on defense. 2) I have stayed on Fields side because the situation he as been placed in wasn’t ideal and is getting better and he and the team seem to be on an ascending trajectory. I’m for getting as much as possible for the number one pick and strengthening the team. 3) I hate the Packers and it still irks me when I think about the dirty ‘expletive’ Charles Martin and his cheap shot hit on Jim McMahon. I hate the Packers as much as Liverpool in the EPL and that’s because I support Manchester United. Here’s hoping both of my teams can come out of the slumps and become perennial winners.

I’m looking forward to Sunday and expect us to knock the cheese heads out of the playoffs. Here’s hoping that Fields has a statement game. Fingers crossed our players clear the injury report and we field a strong team.