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The funny thing is, Minnesota can say that about all of our QB's as well. Jackson is not that good, but if he becomes a better passer, it is gonna suck playing him and AP twice a year for the next decade.
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im pretty sure last year if you looked at the run stats from before Brown went out compared to after he got hurt, the difference was staggering. Of course, Tommie Harris figured into that as well
The defense looks so much faster to the ball with him in the game. I can't explain it, whether it is confidence or something else, but he brings more than just raw skill to the team.
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My first comment regarding Brown was more tongue-in-cheek than anything. It just figures that it would happen that the Bears would give up on someone due to injury and then watch him excel somewhere else and remain completely healthy.
Football is a strange beast when it comes to injuries, and Brown has certainly showed that the injury bug can be extremely unpredictable and streaky.
As for replacing Brown in the secondary, its gonna be extremely difficult. In my perfect world, the Bears would be able to snake manchild extraordinaire Adrian Wilson away from the Arizona Cardinals on the cheap because his season also ended in injury(heel injury that required surgery) and then draft a safety in the mid rounds and hope that Payne can stay healthy, Manning continues to make strides, and McGowan can stay healthy.
I wouldnt mind seeing Brown with an incentive laden deal based on games played, either.
Yeah, I think the incentive laden deal would be the most logical route as well. With Brown in the lineup, the Defense is clearly better. I don't know if the stats reflect that, but it appears that way.
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You must be forgetting that McGowan spent a majority of the last two years on the IR as well, and lets not forget that Payne is on the IR too. Replace an injury prone player with more injury prone players(who cannot even hold Browns jock). Makes sense
Ha, that is funny, I never realized how little McGowan has played:
McGowan - 22 games played in the last 3 seasons.
Now Brown is no better:
Brown - 21 games played in the last 4 seasons.
The crazy thing is Brown played 16 games a season for 4 straight years before getting injured in 2004. At least he has shown he can stay healthy. McGowan has never played a full season.
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Turner is an easy scapegoat, just like every offensive coordinator in Chicago has been for the last ten years. It doesn't speak well for Smith that he would be hiring his third coordinator in five years.
Has Turner ever been good? I think it comes down to bad evaluations. These guys never should've had the job in the first place.
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Interesting fact. So he will end the season playing between 75-80%, just enough to not get Franchised again.
Hip sidelines Briggs, uncertain for SaintsDecember 24, 2007
BY BRAD BIGGS
The next time you see a Bears helmet on Lance Briggs' head might be the Pro Bowl.
The weak-side linebacker sat out Sunday's game because of an aching hip, and his status for the season finale against New Orleans is uncertain.
A source close to Briggs said the free-agent-to-be was aiming to return against the Saints to leave no question that he has been on the field for 75 percent of the defensive snaps this season. That's the threshold he must hit to prevent the Bears from again placing the franchise tag on him, which would deny him the lucrative payday it appears he'll get elsewhere.
But Briggs, who declined to speak when leaving the locker room, appears to already have reached the magic number, having played in 12½ games. He's a three-down linebacker who doesn't come off the field. It comes down to defensive snaps over the entire season, and the Packers held the ball Sunday for only 54 plays, a season-low for the Bears. In the other game Briggs missed in its entirety, Detroit had only 55 offensive plays.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...earnt24.article
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I'd rather spend it on Briggs. Therefore, i don't have to watch garbage next to Urlacher.
Really, Briggs over Harris? So OLB is more important than DT?
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How about Peterson, last 3 games (43 rushes - 108 yards, 2.5 ypc).
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Going into the offseason with a winning streak is definitely something positive, but how much would that outweigh the losing record and worse draft pick?
I want to see the Bears win, but also want them to have the best draft position as possible. Even if they don't actual pick someone, dropping from #11 to #17, is the equivalent of losing a late 2nd round pick. Having the better draft pick also gives them more options. Pick, trade down, trade up for less, etc.
Also, the Bears have had the 2nd hardest SoS this season, so they would draft last after all the team's of the same record, with the exception of Philly.
Either way, playing NO in Chicago gives the Bears a favorable matchup. My best scenario would be a Bears win and still get a mid teens pick (13-15).
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No way. Tillman excels at CB. Why mess that up? The transition is not that easy either.
I would rather sign Brown to an incentive-laden deal, something that pays him by number of snaps or something along those lines. If he stays healthy, he gets paid, if not, it is low risk for the Bears.
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The only problem with Briggs is the money. I would say the only way the Bears sign him to the money he wants is if Urlacher's back is worse than expected.
The Bears have other needs than at LB. Losing Briggs would suck, but would you rather spend the money on Briggs or Harris?
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Only 3 teams have a worse or equal record than the Bears:
@Carolina (6-9)
@Atlanta (3-12)
@St. Louis (3-12)
That is a rough schedule.
Are they trying to make New Orleans our new rival? Hopefully we play them in December along with JAX or TB.
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And this is exactly why I would of just rather lost the game today. Oh well...
Today's win lost us about 2 slots. A win next week might move us down about 5.
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I heard that Briggs pulled himself from today. Can anyone confirm??? If true, I want him gone. Tommie Harris has played 3/4 of the season on one leg. If Briggs sat himself to protect for further injury, then screw him.
Peace
If that is the case. One of a few things occurred. One, he was told that the Bears are not re-signing him (Outpriced himself with Pro Bowl selection). Two, his agent advised him not to risk injury this late in the season. Three, he really was hurt and was held out as a precaution.
I think the key will be next week. If he doesn't play again, he will have played his last snap in a Bears uniform.
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With today's win, the Bears cannot draft higher than the 9th pick.
Now the scary part is there are a ton of teams at 7-8. That means if the Bears beat NO next week, there is a chance they could plummet in the draft. Looking at Strength of Schedule which is the 2nd factor in draft position, the Bears could slide all the way to 17. Now realistically, some of the 7-8 teams will win, so the Bears will probably do no worse than 14 with a win next week. With a loss, the Bears will be guaranteed something in the range of 9-12.
Kind of bittersweet, because you want your team to win, but also want a nice draft pick.
Here are the current records and draft positions:
1. MIA (1-14)
2. STL (3-12)
3. NYJ (3-12)
4. ATL (3-12)
5. KC (4-11)
6. OAK (4-11)
7. BAL (4-11)
8. SF (5-10, SoS #31)
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9. CIN (6-9, SoS #27) at MIA
10. CAR (6-9, SoS #22) at TB
11. CHI (6-9, SoS #2) vs NO
12. DEN (6-8, SoS #11)
13. ARZ (7-8, SoS #30)
14. NO (7-8, SoS #24)
15. HOU (7-8, SoS #17)
16. BUF (7-8, SoS #9)*
17. DET (7-8, SoS #7)
18. PHI (7-8, SoS #1)*
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Damn, the game I just had to miss and we crush Greenbay.. What was the game like? I don't feel like reading this whole thread. Can someone sum up how everyone played?
Weather was the 12th man for the Bears. It affected Green Bay much more than the Bears. GB had 4 fumbles, lost none, and 2 Interceptions thrown, even though it could've been 4 or 5.
Orton wasn't great, but didn't make any game changing mistakes (see Grossman). Peterson ran for over 100, and did well under the conditions.
GB had one long run (66 yards) for their only score. Fairly even game at half.
The Bears blocked 2 punts, one returned for a TD. Urlacher also had an INT TD return late in the game for another. By then the game was out of reach anyway.
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Jamar Williams was in most of the time if not the entire game while Briggs was inactive.
I didn't.
Not for how much he wants. If Williams does that again next week, Briggs will be in another uniform next year.
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After seeing today's games, it is evident that they should wait until the season is completely finished before voting. If you think about it, there is no reason to do it with 2+ games remaining with the Pro Bowl being played AFTER the Super Bowl.
Urlacher would almost be a guarantee after his last two games:
8 tackles, 1 Fumble Recovery, 2 Sacks, 2 Interceptions, 2 Passes Defended, and a Touchdown. He is now the only player in the league with 4 or more Sacks and Interceptions.
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Nice win. If we are going to win this late in the season, at least it was against GB.
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From FoxSports:
Although he won't say it officially, Bears coach Lovie Smith is leaning toward dumping offensive coordinator Ron Turner.http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7597496
YES!!!!!
Step #1 - Fire Ron Turner - CHECK!
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I certainly drank the Arch Kool-Aid before the season. I thought that if he was brought back to the Cover 2 with Lovie, that he would excel. Boy was I wrong.
The Harris deal was probably a little premature, but with Payne, it was hard not to go with the younger guy.
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Hopefully some of the bench players will get another look/first look. Hass anyone?
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I would go with McFadden, but yeah, that would never happen. Briggs will go to the highest bidder.
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He damn well better improve a lot over the off-season if he's gonna start
If it does happen, I hope it does not affect his return game.
Anyone miss Brigg's today?
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I would say the money priority should be Harris, Briggs, then Berrian.