Stinger226 Posted Monday at 02:50 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 02:50 PM We need to look at the overall off-season to see what Poles has accomplished this year. Got the best coach on the market and spent good money on assistants. Added to both lines with quality additions. Added contracts for Gordon and Jackson who were on last years. The draft gave us 4 quality players in the first 4 picks. 2 potential all pro types and 2 first year contributors. The rest of the draft gave us high risk high upside players. Dane Brugler has the most complete draft guide on the market. Well respected in football circles. We ended up with 4 top 100 prospects. Loveland -11, Burden-27, Turner -56, Trapilo -79 He had mentions of all our draft picks on his draft guide. I thought they were obscure but people were aware of them. Hiopolote 35th LB Zak Frasier 23rd CB Newman 22nd OG Monangai 20th RB. I think this were high ceiling high risk type picks. It's going to be 2 years before we can start rating this draft. Lots of people saying Monangai is a dark horse good RB that fits what the bears are looking for. We have a front row seat to a winning season whether fans think it still has problems or not. The off-season is not over yet, now rumors of Nick Chubb. It never stops. Enjoy the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 06:15 PM I agree. Still can't approve of using our 4th round pick the way we did, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted Monday at 11:01 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 11:01 PM 4 hours ago, CrackerDog said: I agree. Still can't approve of using our 4th round pick the way we did, though. I didn't like who or when either. We just don't know if they screwed up or not. I do like the 1st 4 picks and Monongai. As contributors early in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago The league is a head-to-head league, and normally when one team gets better another team gets worse, at least relatively speaking. The Bears had a huge gap to make up in the division as a 5-win team this offseason. Every other team made the playoffs and had no less than 11 wins. So to close the gap, they needed a massive coaching staff upgrade, check, an impactful free agency, check, and a really solid draft, check. It still means nothing until Week 1, but the groundwork is in place to be in the mix with DET, MIN, and GB this season. There is a good chance that the entire NFCN has 10+ wins. I think DET and MIN will come down to earth, GB will be around 9-10 wins, and CHI will be somewhere in the mix. The 4th place team in the NFCN probably misses the playoffs again, and they may be a 10 win team. I am hoping the Bears can get to 11 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, adam said: The league is a head-to-head league, and normally when one team gets better another team gets worse, at least relatively speaking. The Bears had a huge gap to make up in the division as a 5-win team this offseason. Every other team made the playoffs and had no less than 11 wins. So to close the gap, they needed a massive coaching staff upgrade, check, an impactful free agency, check, and a really solid draft, check. It still means nothing until Week 1, but the groundwork is in place to be in the mix with DET, MIN, and GB this season. There is a good chance that the entire NFCN has 10+ wins. I think DET and MIN will come down to earth, GB will be around 9-10 wins, and CHI will be somewhere in the mix. The 4th place team in the NFCN probably misses the playoffs again, and they may be a 10 win team. I am hoping the Bears can get to 11 wins. I think youre right in the ballpark. We had 5 wins last year, but it should have been 8 if Flus didnt mess up the end games. Clearly we are a MUCH better roster this year, and the gameplans will be superior as well. I figure 10 or 11 wins and a playoff appearance. Like always, I wont put a ceiling on what the team could be in December - if they gel, who knows how far they could go, but as it stands right now, I think 10 or 11 wins is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said: I think youre right in the ballpark. We had 5 wins last year, but it should have been 8 if Flus didnt mess up the end games. Clearly we are a MUCH better roster this year, and the gameplans will be superior as well. I figure 10 or 11 wins and a playoff appearance. Like always, I wont put a ceiling on what the team could be in December - if they gel, who knows how far they could go, but as it stands right now, I think 10 or 11 wins is about right. Correct we played well enough to reach 9-10 wins. But the calamity of Flus and lame OCs prevented that. 4-2 and should have been 5-2, boom, the team quit on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Stinger226 said: Correct we played well enough to reach 9-10 wins. But the calamity of Flus and lame OCs prevented that. 4-2 and should have been 5-2, boom, the team quit on him yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: I think youre right in the ballpark. We had 5 wins last year, but it should have been 8 if Flus didnt mess up the end games. Clearly we are a MUCH better roster this year, and the gameplans will be superior as well. I figure 10 or 11 wins and a playoff appearance. Like always, I wont put a ceiling on what the team could be in December - if they gel, who knows how far they could go, but as it stands right now, I think 10 or 11 wins is about right. 13 hours ago, Stinger226 said: Correct we played well enough to reach 9-10 wins. But the calamity of Flus and lame OCs prevented that. 4-2 and should have been 5-2, boom, the team quit on him and if you got back another year, I think there were at least 3-4 other games Flus'd, so this roster really was a 8 to 9 win, cusp of the playoffs, type of roster. So getting to 10 or 11 wins seems reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago Funny if you swap a few picks around, they ultimately end up near where they were ranked. Swap Turner and Trapilo, move Monangai up to the 4th, move Frazier over Hyppolite and the values are in line with the consensus big boards. Loveland - TE2 1st Round Grade Burden - WR3 1st-2nd Round Grade Turner - DT6 2nd Round Grade Trapilo - OT7 3rd Round Grade Monangai - RB20 4th-5th Grade Frazier - CB23 5th-6th Grade Hyppolite - LB35 UDFA Newman - OG22 UDFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago This has definitely been a beast of an off season. We are champions for the three peat. Jokes aside, I love what Poles and company have done. Getting the staff in place exceeded my expectations. The five trench players acquired before the draft are all upgraded starters. The draft fell awkwardly to us, but Poles found several future starters and special teamers. We became much stronger in the trenches and faster at the skills. And we are still in solid cap space. Very solid job. We talked about blue chip players in the past. If Caleb, Rome and Coleston emerge, I believe the team will be at 13 and rising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 11 minutes ago Report Share Posted 11 minutes ago and for PFF grades, only Turner was graded "below average" which is quite impressive considering the snap counts. Loveland - 85.9 Burden - 77.9 Trapilo - 76.8 Turner - 59.4 Hyppolite - 69.2 Frazier - 85.9 Newman - 71.9 Monangai - 77.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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