Bleck and Abdalla

[Stinger226]

Has anyone ever seen these guys before? Are they Chicago guys? 

I started watching this and the first Question: Does Caleb have everything to succeed? They questioned the weapons because some are new and not proven yet.. Then in the second question about Kmet being here in the future, Loveland is a better TE so he might be gone in 2 yrs.  So Loveland is unproven and then in the second question, he is better than Kmet.

Isnt that counterdicting yourself?

 

[adam]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

Has anyone ever seen these guys before? Are they Chicago guys? 

I started watching this and the first Question: Does Caleb have everything to succeed? They questioned the weapons because some are new and not proven yet.. Then in the second question about Kmet being here in the future, Loveland is a better TE so he might be gone in 2 yrs.  So Loveland is unproven and then in the second question, he is better than Kmet.

Isnt that counterdicting yourself?

 

Last year we were led to believe that Williams was in the best situation ever for a QB, and based on his top 3 WRs, that was probably close to true, but the coaching staff and the O-Line were not. This year though, they completely revamped the interior of the O-Line and brought in competition at Tackle while the coaching staff has seen one of the biggest upgrades in NFL history. Going from Flus and Waldron, neither of whom survived the entire season, to Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen is so massive of an upgrade, it is hard to quantify. 

For the other stuff. Every rookie is unproven, and every vet is on the trading block. Kmet may not be resigned/extended beyond his current deal, and they may move him near the end of the current deal to get some value back, but that would only be if Loveland met all expectations and it was cap related, like you couldn't extend Loveland while Kmet was getting paid $10M+ annually, so you move Kmet. At that point, it would be one or the other, but there is no reason to get rid of Kmet in the next few years when Loveland and Williams are on their rookie deals. Kmet is insurance in case Loveland doesn't pan out or gets hurt.

At this point, outside of an upgrade at RB and Edge, is there really a weakness on the roster? There should be zero excuses for Williams not to excel from this point forward, and the team should be highly competitive year in and year out. This is the perfect time to peak with guys like Moore and Johnson on team-friendly deals and a lot of other starters on rookie deals (Williams, Wright, Odunze, Loveland, Burden, Dexter, Stevenson, Brisker, Trapilo, Turner, and Taylor). 

[Stinger226]

If Caleb doesnt excel in this envirorment, we will have to question his potenial going forward. Of course, being a glass half full type I expect a pro bowl type of performance. 

[Mongo3451]

They do the show after Waddle and Silvey.  Neither one of them are football guys, so all they do is speculate. 

I refuse to buy any Kmet trade talk.  We've all been saying we needed a move TE to go with him.  As soon as we get the complimentary piece, he's expendable?  Cole is still a very valuable piece of the team and a top ten player at his position.  Loveland and Kmet will actually compliment each others strengths and help free up the other.

[BearFan PHX]

57 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

They do the show after Waddle and Silvey.  Neither one of them are football guys, so all they do is speculate. 

I refuse to buy any Kmet trade talk.  We've all been saying we needed a move TE to go with him.  As soon as we get the complimentary piece, he's expendable?  Cole is still a very valuable piece of the team and a top ten player at his position.  Loveland and Kmet will actually compliment each others strengths and help free up the other.

Cole is a very capable player. Im definitely not saying he sucks. I'm saying he isn't worth a big contract in the long run. Next year is his last year, because I don't see him getting a big payday from the Bears after that. But does he help us now, before that? Absolutely. He does have value. But that's also why someone will pay him more than we will.

And if we arent going to keep him, unless Im missing something in compensatory formula, its better to get something for him before that. I'm guessing the trade deadline, if not during the offseason next year.

Teams with good rosters cant afford good but not great players. For example we got Akiem Hicks from the Patriots in a move when he had one year left on his contract. It's not that Belichick didnt know how good Hicks was, he, and we both agreed he was a very good player. But we had the cap space for him, and when you have a packed roster like the Patriots did, you gotta replace those guys with good draft picks instead of second contracts to keep it going, and you gotta let guys go before the last year of their deal if youre not going to pay them big.

So I disagree as to whether Kmet will be traded, but i agree with you that he definitely has value as a player.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

They do the show after Waddle and Silvey.  Neither one of them are football guys, so all they do is speculate. 

I refuse to buy any Kmet trade talk.  We've all been saying we needed a move TE to go with him.  As soon as we get the complimentary piece, he's expendable?  Cole is still a very valuable piece of the team and a top ten player at his position.  Loveland and Kmet will actually compliment each others strengths and help free up the other.

Kmet is a valuable asset and is signed thru 2027. Calebs contract ends at the same time so he will at least be here until Caleb gets a big contract. Cole will be 28 when his contract ends so  chances of another contract are thin but a lot can happen between now and 2027. Loveland has a higher ceiling but who knows about future injuries or other situations that could occur.