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[Mongo3451]

40 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I agree with you about Minnesota, but the reason Fields' rushing yards were down was that the coaches were telling him to slide rather than try to get around defenders.

That's actually false.  They asked him to slide sooner to avoid those, late, bell ringers the DB's were laying on him.  In actuality he didn't break the huge runs like the season before.  After that, I abjectly disagree with any open field running comparison to Hester.  Not even close.

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[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

That's actually false.  They asked him to slide sooner to avoid those, late, bell ringers the DB's were laying on him.  In actuality he didn't break the huge runs like the season before.  After that, I abjectly disagree with any open field running comparison to Hester.  Not even close.

fair enough thats what makes horse races.

I agree with what you said about why they asked him to slide, I think thats what i was saying too.

personally, I think Fields is a monster in the open field, and Hester like - but we dont have to agree on that.

I do wonder if a team will use him for kick returns in the future if he isnt starting at QB.

EDIT - I do admit Hester is quite a bit faster. That's obvious. But in terms of vision and elusiveness I see them as similar.

[Stinger226]

On 7/1/2025 at 2:51 PM, Mongo3451 said:

This team has good team character.  Even with Flus, they played hard until he list the team.  Your mention of chemistry is key.  My belief is that it will develop quickly, due to the new staff being quite the opposite.  I expect extreme effort in camp.  Some guys might get hurt feelings, but wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air.  

We brought in leaders to help the chemistry. Jarrett, Thuney and Dalman all bring leadership to the lines. We now have players that will make everyone accountable on the DL and OL. We got a A+ coaching staff that wont let anyone slack off. Great situation for this team to excell.

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9 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

fair enough thats what makes horse races.

I agree with what you said about why they asked him to slide, I think thats what i was saying too.

personally, I think Fields is a monster in the open field, and Hester like - but we dont have to agree on that.

I do wonder if a team will use him for kick returns in the future if he isnt starting at QB.

Fields got paid to be a starting QB for the Jets, thinking he is still a failure is a little long in the tooth. No one is saying he is a top 10 QB in the league but if used right, he can win football games.

[BearFan PHX]

14 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Fields got paid to be a starting QB for the Jets, thinking he is still a failure is a little long in the tooth. No one is saying he is a top 10 QB in the league but if used right, he can win football games.

lol - lets see what the Jets do after this year with him.

The idea that fields is GOOD at QB is like teeth that haven't come in yet because the baby teeth are still in LOL

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

fair enough thats what makes horse races.

I agree with what you said about why they asked him to slide, I think thats what i was saying too.

personally, I think Fields is a monster in the open field, and Hester like - but we dont have to agree on that.

I do wonder if a team will use him for kick returns in the future if he isnt starting at QB.

EDIT - I do admit Hester is quite a bit faster. That's obvious. But in terms of vision and elusiveness I see them as similar.

I said slide sooner, not simply slide.  The sooner slides probably took them yards off his stats.  As far as open field running, the vision and explosiveness aren't even close.  To see a path through eleven people solely focused on you is far different than eluding a pass rush and running into a spread field with 40 percent of the defense in the rearview mirror.  

[adam]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

lol - lets see what the Jets do after this year with him.

The idea that fields is GOOD at QB is like teeth that haven't come in yet because the baby teeth are still in LOL

Fields is such a weird case, he is one of 40 QBs in NFL history with 4K Passing yards and 2K Rushing yards (career totals). Of that group, he has the 2nd fewest passing yards (Bobby Douglass), and is below Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and Daniel Jones.

His career arch is looking very similar to Marcus Mariota's (started as rookie, then jumped around on one year deals, now on 5th team). Fields is on his 3rd team. 

[BearFan PHX]

56 minutes ago, adam said:

Fields is such a weird case, he is one of 40 QBs in NFL history with 4K Passing yards and 2K Rushing yards (career totals). Of that group, he has the 2nd fewest passing yards (Bobby Douglass), and is below Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick, and Daniel Jones.

His career arch is looking very similar to Marcus Mariota's (started as rookie, then jumped around on one year deals, now on 5th team). Fields is on his 3rd team. 

Fields, to me, is a superior athlete that doesn't have the mental talent at the QB position. I'm not saying he is stupid at all. But he has never shown an ability to read defenses in rhythm, and you can bet the Jets are thinking about Arch Manning next year, and signed Fields to get Manning. They may also have Fields be that transitional QB for Manning, but once Manning (or whichever rookie they take) starts, that'll be it for Fields.

Fields is not an NFL starting QB. People have given him chances to show that he can be one, but he hasnt done it anywhere yet, and I dont see how he will.

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

Fields, to me, is a superior athlete that doesn't have the mental talent at the QB position. I'm not saying he is stupid at all. But he has never shown an ability to read defenses in rhythm, and you can bet the Jets are thinking about Arch Manning next year, and signed Fields to get Manning. They may also have Fields be that transitional QB for Manning, but once Manning (or whichever rookie they take) starts, that'll be it for Fields.

Fields is not an NFL starting QB. People have given him chances to show that he can be one, but he hasnt done it anywhere yet, and I dont see how he will.

Agreed.  Smart guy, slow processor.  It's nothing to be ashamed of.  That's why QB is the most elite position in all of sports.

[BearFan PHX]

26 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

Agreed.  Smart guy, slow processor.  It's nothing to be ashamed of.  That's why QB is the most elite position in all of sports.

Oh for sure, there are like maybe 10 guys who can do it at the level that you know you'd keep them long term, in the world! Maybe 10, maybe a lot less. Depends on how you rate em.

It's hard!

[Stinger226]

 

[adam]

Nice to see Brisker out there, JJ looks faster. The hype train is full steam ahead. 

[adam]

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NFC NORTH

Chicago Bears

Ruben Hyppolite II, LB

Ben Johnson singled out Hyppolite as the player that Bears coaches saw the most improvement from this spring. With veteran T.J. Edwards sidelined with a soft tissue injury, Hyppolite got a lot of run with the starting defense at a position he doesn't have much experience at (weakside linebacker) after playing middle linebacker throughout his career at Maryland.

While the search for Chicago's No. 3 linebacker isn't the sexiest of position battles, Hyppolite -- a fourth-rounder with a 4.39 second 40 time -- made early impressions on the coaching staff. "He's done a great job adjusting to that speed as we've gone through, and that's going to have to show up once we do get the pads on," Johnson said. "But I think he's been improving every single day, and really, we're hoping that course continues." -- Courtney Cronin

This is considered the biggest surprise for the Bears. I had to lol over it, as we are talking about LB3 on a defense that plays in a package with an LB3 less than 25% of the time. However, it actually highlights something else, that the Bears roster is pretty solid. Outside of Jones vs Trapilo, every starter and key backup is already set as far as I am tracking. Maybe you could make a case for CB2 and Stevenson vs Smith/Frazier? 

[BearFan PHX]

On 7/2/2025 at 2:54 PM, Stinger226 said:

Fields got paid to be a starting QB for the Jets, thinking he is still a failure is a little long in the tooth. No one is saying he is a top 10 QB in the league but if used right, he can win football games.

Ok so Ive been thinking more about this. Are you actually arguing that Fields has proven himself to be GOOD? Really? Why does no one keep him? Your best proof is that the Jets paid him? They are widely known as shrewd QB talent evaluators?

And signing someone doesnt matter - hes on his 3rd team already. He has to produce before you can argue that hes any good. So far his production has been terrible!

Here is JF's BEST season:
2562 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT - his other seasons were WORSE.

that's 150 yds a game average. YUCK! His BEST season LOL

Here is CW's rookie season in which he had three different OCs, the first OC and head coach got fired, and the OL was trash:
3,541 yards, 20 TD and 6 INTs

and people are saying Caleb had a bad year, might be a bust. LOL

Caleb threw for almost 1,000 more yards, had 4 more TDs, and only 2/3 as many INTs.

Tell me again that Fields is good. What a bunch of crap!

[Stinger226]

14 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

Ok so Ive been thinking more about this. Are you actually arguing that Fields has proven himself to be GOOD? Really? Why does no one keep him? Your best proof is that the Jets paid him? They are widely known as shrewd QB talent evaluators?

And signing someone doesnt matter - hes on his 3rd team already. He has to produce before you can argue that hes any good. So far his production has been terrible!

Here is JF's BEST season:
2562 yards, 16 TD, 9 INT - his other seasons were WORSE.

that's 150 yds a game average. YUCK! His BEST season LOL

Here is CW's rookie season in which he had three different OCs, the first OC and head coach got fired, and the OL was trash:
3,541 yards, 20 TD and 6 INTs

and people are saying Caleb had a bad year, might be a bust. LOL

Caleb threw for almost 1,000 more yards, had 4 more TDs, and only 2/3 as many INTs.

Tell me again that Fields is good. What a bunch of crap!

Since you are always predicting failure for Fields, we get to watch him be a starting QB in the NFL. The proof is in the pudding. Last year he had a 93.3 QB rating. Caleb was 87.8 . I am saying he is good enough to start in the NFL  and keep repearting that I do not think he is in the top 15. He will finish between 15th. and 20th. You seem to only have two opinions on QBs (star or bust) the real world does have a sliding scale. We both know our own opinions and this year will show where he fits. Here he played for a lousy coaching group and bad OL. In Pitt he shared the QB spot. Believe it or not players can get better with more experience and finding the right fit. Geno Smith, Sam Darnold are examples of QBs playing better after shaky starts.

[BearFan PHX]

4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

Since you are always predicting failure for Fields, we get to watch him be a starting QB in the NFL. The proof is in the pudding. Last year he had a 93.3 QB rating. Caleb was 87.8 . I am saying he is good enough to start in the NFL  and keep repearting that I do not think he is in the top 15. He will finish between 15th. and 20th. You seem to only have two opinions on QBs (star or bust) the real world does have a sliding scale. We both know our own opinions and this year will show where he fits. Here he played for a lousy coaching group and bad OL. In Pitt he shared the QB spot. Believe it or not players can get better with more experience and finding the right fit. Geno Smith, Sam Darnold are examples of QBs playing better after shaky starts.

Dude, Fields SUCKS. That rating means nothing, when he hardly threw the ball. 2,500 yards is the best he ever did!

This goes far beyond optimism - it's rainbows and unicorns.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

Dude, Fields SUCKS. That rating means nothing, when he hardly threw the ball. 2,500 yards is the best he ever did!

This goes far beyond optimism - it's rainbows and unicorns.

How many times are you going to repeat yourself? Everyone knows how youl feel. He has not been the man yet but that doesnt mean he cant get better and be a NFL starter. Its okay to have different opinions. 

Last year  he improved his completion pct and QB rating. He improved his pocket time from 2.8 seconds to 2.5. His on target accuracy improved from 73% to 75%. For comparison purpose Calebs was 72.4%.

Its funny you post stats to tell me how bad he is but when I post stats they dont mean anything. 

My whole point is I think he is getting better and IS a starting QB in the league. 

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[BearFan PHX]

37 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

How many times are you going to repeat yourself? Everyone knows how youl feel. He has not been the man yet but that doesnt mean he cant get better and be a NFL starter. Its okay to have different opinions. 

Last year  he improved his completion pct and QB rating. He improved his pocket time from 2.8 seconds to 2.5. His on target accuracy improved from 73% to 75%. For comparison purpose Calebs was 72.4%.

Its funny you post stats to tell me how bad he is but when I post stats they dont mean anything. 

My whole point is I think he is getting better and IS a starting QB in the league. 

you're absolutely crazy. just watch the tape. honestly if you think Fields is good, then your opinion on everything is wroth questioning.

now I know, people have different opinions on things and thats cool. When I say I think Fields in the open field is similar to Hester, thats an opinion. Its all well and good for someone else to say they dont agree. Its not a fact, its an opinion. Most of what's said on here is opinion. And thats cool.

But Fields is terrible. Thats a FACT. It's already been proven. What I couldnt believe was the idea that you were arguing that Fields has already been PROVEN GOOD. That the idea that Fields is bad hasnt aged well. LOL. Did Pittsburgh keep him?

I dont think you know how to watch football, I really dont. I think you just regurgitate what idiots like Greg Gabriel and Pat the Designer and Swifty say. Its ridiculous. Put down the kool aid and just watch some film - it isnt hard. You can see how players play with your own eyes. You dont have to be a genius either, thankfully.

You would have kept Fields. You would have kept Eberflus. Dude, you need to rethink your football life.

[Stinger226]

22 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

you're absolutely crazy. just watch the tape. honestly if you think Fields is good, then your opinion on everything is wroth questioning.

now I know, people have different opinions on things and thats cool. When I say I think Fields in the open field is similar to Hester, thats an opinion. Its all well and good for someone else to say they dont agree. Its not a fact, its an opinion. Most of what's said on here is opinion. And thats cool.

But Fields is terrible. Thats a FACT. It's already been proven. What I couldnt believe was the idea that you were arguing that Fields has already been PROVEN GOOD. That the idea that Fields is bad hasnt aged well. LOL. Did Pittsburgh keep him?

I dont think you know how to watch football, I really dont. I think you just regurgitate what idiots like Greg Gabriel and Pat the Designer and Swifty say. Its ridiculous. Put down the kool aid and just watch some film - it isnt hard. You can see how players play with your own eyes. You dont have to be a genius either, thankfully.

You would have kept Fields. You would have kept Eberflus. Dude, you need to rethink your football life.

I guess NFL teams dont use your evaluations in making decisions for rosters. He was 4-2 last year and did okay with his stats. The NY Jets signed him to be their starting QB. If he is terrible as your opinion suggests then, he will be benched by midseason and your opinion will be spot on. If he is getting better and lands somewhere between 15-20 rankings at QB then my comments that I think he is getting better will carry some weight. For me their are 4 tiers of QBs Great- above average- average and poor. He will never be great but if he continues to get better, he could move to above average. It seems your only two tiers are good or bad. He is not bad.

 

[BearFan PHX]

54 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I guess NFL teams dont use your evaluations in making decisions for rosters.

LOL every team passed on Fields when he was available for trade until we took a 6th rounder for him LOL

Then the Steelers got to know him, tried to teach him. The result? They got rid of him.

He was accepted by the Jets, notoriously known for their terrible QB evaluations. He will sell tickets and jerseys to people like you who dont understand how ineffective he is as an NFL QB. And he will help them lose games so they can replace him with a high pick rookie next year.

Will they bench him in my scenario? Hell no! Fields will help them rack up the losses to get that higher pick. The Arch Manning sweepstakes. And after that, will any team want Fields as a starter? Nope. Know why? Because he sucks.

The question here is how the hell you get so attached that you cant see the obvious truth that the entire league sees.

I assume you think Eberflus will be a great head coach some day too.

Its truly astounding. I dont understand why you arent embarrassed.

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[Stinger226]

18 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

LOL every team passed on Fields when he was available for trade until we took a 6th rounder for him LOL

Then the Steelers got to know him, tried to teach him. The result? They got rid of him.

He was accepted by the Jets, notoriously known for their terrible QB evaluations. He will sell tickets and jerseys to people like you who dont understand how ineffective he is as an NFL QB. And he will help them lose games so they can replace him with a high pick rookie next year.

Will they bench him in my scenario? Hell no! Fields will help them rack up the losses to get that higher pick. The Arch Manning sweepstakes. And after that, will any team want Fields as a starter? Nope. Know why? Because he sucks.

The question here is how the hell you get so attached that you cant see the obvious truth that the entire league sees.

I assume you think Eberflus will be a great head coach some day too.

Its truly astounding. I dont understand why you arent embarrassed.

I am not sitting on his history in the league and saying he played great. He has flaws but I think he is getting better. As far as teams passing on him, its about teams that have either estasblished QBs or prospects in place that are CHEAPER options. I am not the only one that thinks he could eventually be a starting QB in the league ( of which he is). Your great evalutions include Jayden Daniels isnt very good. Kingsbury kept the passsing game simple and used his legs that is one of his strengths.  If he has a coach that plays him similiar to Daniels he can have success in the league. We got rid of him because we had a better option that was cheaper for several yrs. Pitts bailed on him, not arguing that . When we drafted Loveland, you right away wanted to trade Kmet and say he isnt very good. Lots of people disagree with that opinion.

Its about a player that has some skills and can be a starter in the league. You act like I am making him a pro bowl player. Caleb had some of the same problems last year that Justin had, holding the ball to long and not reading the field right. I think Caleb will get better and have a pro bowl type year but if you go by this year, he still has to prove it. 

You say stupid stuff like I think Flus was a great coach, knowing I never said that. I supported him while he was our coach and then he exposed himself so I moved on. You were right about Flus and cudos for that. I was a big fan of Justin while he was our QB, as soon as he left, I jumped on board with Caleb as he became our new QB. Other people on this forum liked Justin but you never beat them up with their opinion but I am not the only one here that wishes him well. When I have a different opinion than yours you always look to blow that up , have fun. Then you always get personal. 

(Its truly astounding. I dont understand why you arent embarrassed.) I will say one thing, you are very good at loving yourself.

 

 

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