Goff vs Williams

[adam]

So I have seen media discussing the leap Goff took when he went from LA to DET. They have tried to project that same leap onto Williams this year. Now I can see using that as a starting point, but Williams is destined for a much bigger leap in my opinion. 

The gap between McVay and Waldron/Brown is massive. The fact that Johnson got something more out of Goff than McVay did should speak to how good of a coach and play caller he is. This is also evident by the down year Goff had in between McVay and Johnson with Anthony Lynn as OC in 2021.

 

[AZ54]

I could not have asked the Bears to do more than what was done this offseason.  If Caleb can't succeed with this supporting cast it's because Caleb can't succeed.  I'm not expecting great things in Wk 1 because everyone is learning the offense.  There should be a lot of positive drives in the first few games and consistency should be there by midseason.  

[BearFan PHX]

47 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

I could not have asked the Bears to do more than what was done this offseason.  If Caleb can't succeed with this supporting cast it's because Caleb can't succeed.  I'm not expecting great things in Wk 1 because everyone is learning the offense.  There should be a lot of positive drives in the first few games and consistency should be there by midseason.  

100%

[Stinger226]

18 hours ago, AZ54 said:

I could not have asked the Bears to do more than what was done this offseason.  If Caleb can't succeed with this supporting cast it's because Caleb can't succeed.  I'm not expecting great things in Wk 1 because everyone is learning the offense.  There should be a lot of positive drives in the first few games and consistency should be there by midseason.  

I think by our bye week we should start to get on a roll with a successful offense. There will be some good and bad moments in our first 4 games, but that is to be expected.

[adam]

On 7/3/2025 at 12:33 PM, AZ54 said:

I could not have asked the Bears to do more than what was done this offseason.  If Caleb can't succeed with this supporting cast it's because Caleb can't succeed.  I'm not expecting great things in Wk 1 because everyone is learning the offense.  There should be a lot of positive drives in the first few games and consistency should be there by midseason.  

Yeah, absolutely. The only thing that could stop Williams now is an injury. There is no way he could put up 3,500 passing yards in the shit show last year and some how not hit 4K doing the exact same thing. Everything around him improved, and in some areas, a lot. Coaching and O-Line upgrades are so big they are hard to quantify. That is in addition to still adding top end skill position players in Loveland and Burden. 

Because of the skill position depth with little drop off, I could see the Bears really blowing teams out in the 4th quarter where their skill guys still have fresh legs and the DBs have been on the field the entire time.

[adam]

10 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I think by our bye week we should start to get on a roll with a successful offense. There will be some good and bad moments in our first 4 games, but that is to be expected.

Yeah, and the first 4 games are somewhat favorable. MIN at home against McCarthy to open the season, then to DET (short travel), back home against DAL, then out to LVR. Opening Day MNF on the road for your first start is pretty tough, so I think the Bears have the edge there. With DET, I think that game becomes a toss up because of the coaching staff turnover on both sides, and the unknown health of Hutchinson. DAL has a new coaching staff with Flus as the DC, then the Raiders. 

[BearFan PHX]

Well wins is one thing, the offense humming is another, and Calebs growth yet another.

I think we could win games like vs McCarthy without having our shit together. And I think we could lose to the Eagles even if we are playing well. So getting wins is one thing.

But the offense gelling and Caleb looking calm and in rhythm will be the name of the game. I totally agree with what you guys have said, that if anyone ever had the pieces in place to grow, it's Williams on this team. There is every reason, barring injuries, to expect more than average from this group this year. it might take a minute to truly get into rhythm, and we may even win some games and still not be in rhythm.

But that's what this year is for as much as anything - to become a top 10 offense, and do it consistently, down to down, game to game. Id like to see that consistency for the second half of the season, and I wanna see spurts of it int he first four weeks that become gradually more sustained.

if we can accomplish that goal this year, then the real championship window opens next year. Not that we cant possibly gel early this year and make a run, but the likely schedule looks like that to me.