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Bears traded for Simmons, 2x First Rounders, holy shit

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We absolutely overpaid but this makes the team better. Poles is all in on this team and it should benefit us for multiple years.

INCREDIBLY STUPID. there is no possible way any 29 year old DT is worth anywhere close to what we paid. 2 firsts relates to a good/great starting QB in his prime or a DE future hall of fame player in his prime.

this screws us in so many ways in our future it's mindboggling.

ryan poles has done NOTHING but hurt this franchise. he can't draft. look at the busts or average players we have picked in the 1st-3rd round. his free agent acquisitions on defense are dismal at the VERY best. we are paying for injured average players. on offense he has brought in three good offensive linemen and one that wanted to retire and did after one season. one is at or past retirement age also in thuney. and now this...

ryan poles needs to be FIRED. this is no knee jerk statement, this guy is killing this franchise.

16 minutes ago, Lucky Luciano said:

ryan poles needs to be FIRED. this is no knee jerk statement, this guy is killing this franchise.

One simple question: if we win the Superbowl, this year, do you forgive Poles for this?

Rich, yes but they have the best guy at the position that becomes the center piece to build around for years. These are projected late 20 right now. It would take a year or more for those draft picks to even come close to producing at half his level. Still waiting on Odunze and heck Loveland has flashed but not there yet

2 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

One simple question: if we win the Superbowl, this year, do you forgive Poles for this?

Ha! Our firsts are going to be late picks, closer to giving away two 2nds than two #1’s. We need to grab Mack or someone similar for help at edge and this D is good enough to get us to the Superbowl with this offense.

17 minutes ago, CrackerDog said:

Mack or someone similar for help at edge and this D is good enough to get us to the Superbowl with this offense.

As much as I love Mack, I’d say a CB right now might be a little higher priority. But honestly, I’ll take either.

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12 minutes ago, CrackerDog said:

We absolutely overpaid but this makes the team better. Poles is all in on this team and it should benefit us for multiple years.

There is not much difference between Pick #28-32 and #33-#36. 2x #30 picks equals #11. So the Bears ultimately traded Pick#10 for Simmons.

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Also, this is a winning formula: we needed a defensive superstar. This reminds me of KC's run with a younger Mahomes w/ Reid as HC and Chris Jones on defense. The difference is the Bears have a younger core on offense.

Coby Bryant hasn't even played a snap yet, the defense will get another boost with him.

5 minutes ago, adam said:

There is not much difference between Pick #28-32 and #33-#36. 2x #30 picks equals #11. So the Bears ultimately traded Pick#10 for Simmons.

And if I heard / read correctly, the bears received a 5th round pick in the trade. That would make three they have now? Which, in theory, could be used as leverage for a player like Mack or even an older but decent CB who can contribute now?

4 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

And if I heard / read correctly, the bears received a 5th round pick in the trade. That would make three they have now? Which, in theory, could be used as leverage for a player like Mack or even an older but decent CB who can contribute now?

They traded two 1sts, a 4th and received Simmons and a 5th. I think those later picks are in 2028

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5 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

And if I heard / read correctly, the bears received a 5th round pick in the trade. That would make three they have now? Which, in theory, could be used as leverage for a player like Mack or even an older but decent CB who can contribute now?

The Bears gave up a 2027 4th and got back a 2028 5th. For how bad the Titans are, even if they are a year apart, they will probably only be less than 20 picks away with the comp picks in between.

I would not be surprised if they look for someone like Wright for a 7th or something like. He hasn't played for the Jets, hell the Jets may even give a pick back.

3 minutes ago, adam said:

The Bears gave up a 2027 4th and got back a 2028 5th. For how bad the Titans are, even if they are a year apart, they will probably only be less than 20 picks away with the comp picks in between.

I would not be surprised if they look for someone like Wright for a 7th or something like. He hasn't played for the Jets, hell the Jets may even give a pick back.

Wright was lousy in coverage, but no worse than JJ. At least he tried to tackle players instead of watching them run past him, and got turnovers, which JJ fails to do. Is there anything JJ does do well?

1 minute ago, Pixote said:

Is there anything JJ does do well?

He does a good Eddie Jackson impersonation...

6 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

He does a good Eddie Jackson impersonation...

Now THATS funny right there . I don’t care who you are.

Was reading up on Wright and why he’s not starting in NY given he was a relative hot commodity after last year . But essentially it came down to their staring CBs, who are younger, are playing better . And ‘yes’ his coverage skills lack. But there’s no denying it he can make plays, at least in the right scenario. Maybe if he has assured help over the top he can be made into a temp fix for Johnson until something better comes along?

1 minute ago, adam said:

Secondary effect? Simmons played two years with Sweat as MSU. Maybe that will motivate Sweat a little bit?

I think Sweat will also be motivated after hearing coach Johnson say Hardy played well over the last two games and deserves more opportunities. Basically the Bears never missed Sweat, so he needs to ball out.

With the addition of Simmons, who is owed 27 mil next season, the Bears can cut Sweat with no dead money. That seems like a.no brainer, imo.

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DT pass rush win rate rankings

Rank

Name

Team

Wins

Plays

PRWR

DT%

1

Jeffery Simmons

TEN

33

124

27%

84%

2

Maason Smith

ATL

25

95

26%

85%

3

Brandon Dorlus

ATL

22

84

26%

78%

4

Alim McNeill

DET

37

146

25%

84%

5

DJ Reader

NYG

16

71

23%

73%

6

Zach Allen

DEN

26

134

19%

80%

7

Walter Nolen III

AZ

15

81

19%

73%

8

Braden Fiske

LAR

14

76

18%

78%

9

Osa Odighizuwa

SF

22

120

18%

79%

10

Byron Murphy II

SEA

19

108

18%

78%

11

Jonathan Allen

CIN

17

97

18%

76%

12

Milton Williams

NE

18

103

17%

79%

13

Calijah Kancey

TB

15

86

17%

74%

14

Arik Armstead

JAX

18

104

17%

81%

15

Dexter Lawrence II

CIN

19

110

17%

88%

16

Moro Ojomo

PHI

16

94

17%

80%

17

Leonard Williams

SEA

16

95

17%

85%

18

Grady Jarrett

CHI

19

116

16%

71%

19

Vita Vea

TB

15

94

16%

81%

20

Calais Campbell

BAL

15

96

16%

83%

Just now, adam said:

Bears now with the #1 and #18 DTs in PRWR.

Dayo was looking good on 3rd downs, Booker is stepping up. Gordon and Thieneman are blitzing to confuse qbs. I cannot wait until Bryant gets back to move Lewis back to depth rotation. Some one needs to poke JJ with a stick to see if hes alive.

The Bears have capitalized on Caleb Williams rookie contract.

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