dawhizz Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Let's say the draft unfolds like this (unlikely maybe, but not unthinkable): 1) Dolphins - Jake Long, OT, Michigan 2) Rams - Chris Long, DE, Virginia 3) Falcons - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU 4) Raiders - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC 5) Chiefs - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College 6) Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State Or something like that. So, at #7, both Darren McFadden and Ryan Clady are available, and the Patriots are more than willing to move down. A swap of #14, #44 & #75 to the Patriots and #7 & #63 to the Bears works almost exactly in the pick value chart (1775 to 1776). 1. Do you move up? 2. If so, do you take Clady or McFadden (or someone else)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clnr Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 We have too many holes to loose any picks for one guy! So no, I would not trade up in that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 No. The trade value chart overvalues the top picks. We have good value at 14, we should stay there or perhaps trade down (depending on what happens on draft day). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerBear7 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Trade down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 The only way I'd trade up like that is if we were a one need team and the guy we target is a bonafide stud. Otherwise, standing pat or trading down is always the better scenario for two key reasons. One, is you do not lose picks and may possibly gain some. Two, is because trading down is financially better, even if you draft more players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 IMO, there are 2 guys in this draft you trade up for; Jake Long and Darren McFadden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 IMO, there are 2 guys in this draft you trade up for; Jake Long and Darren McFadden. And if you're a team in desperate need of a QB, like Baltimore, then Matt Ryan can go on your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'll disagree with the 2 previous posts to a certain extent. The only player worth even thinking about trading up for if you're the bears is Jake Long (IMO even McFadden would be a waste behind this line). At the same time you'd have to trade a ton of picks and you'd have to pay a ton for him seeing as youd have to trade up to the top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'll disagree with the 2 previous posts to a certain extent. The only player worth even thinking about trading up for if you're the bears is Jake Long (IMO even McFadden would be a waste behind this line). At the same time you'd have to trade a ton of picks and you'd have to pay a ton for him seeing as youd have to trade up to the top spot. Yes trade up for a lineman so he can block for nobody. I personally dont like McFadden, but gimme a break. Everyone knows i hate lineman at any draft spot in any round, but what line did Thomas Jones run behind? Pretty sure they were all FA, with Kruetz as the exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'll disagree with the 2 previous posts to a certain extent. The only player worth even thinking about trading up for if you're the bears is Jake Long (IMO even McFadden would be a waste behind this line). At the same time you'd have to trade a ton of picks and you'd have to pay a ton for him seeing as youd have to trade up to the top spot. I couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Let's say the draft unfolds like this (unlikely maybe, but not unthinkable): 1) Dolphins - Jake Long, OT, Michigan 2) Rams - Chris Long, DE, Virginia 3) Falcons - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU 4) Raiders - Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC 5) Chiefs - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College 6) Jets - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State Or something like that. So, at #7, both Darren McFadden and Ryan Clady are available, and the Patriots are more than willing to move down. A swap of #14, #44 & #75 to the Patriots and #7 & #63 to the Bears works almost exactly in the pick value chart (1775 to 1776). 1. Do you move up? 2. If so, do you take Clady or McFadden (or someone else)? Hell no. For the past two seasons we've returned every starter, and we've looked to trade down. There's no way in hell we sacrifice picks to move up when we're hoping that a rookie can start opening day. Our #1 priority in the draft is o-line, and they'll be a damn good one available at #14. Our #2 priority appears to be RB, and a guy like Forte (If we like him & he's as good as advertised . . . ) will be there in the 2nd. There's no need to move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I'm starting to believe that we should just trade down and get an extra pick. We have too many needs and not enough picks. Maybe trade with a team like JAX, who might feel their pass rusher might get taken before their pick at 26. 1. Otah, OT/Albert, OG/OT 2. Laws, DT 2. Forte, RB 3. Henne, QB 3. DeCoud, S 4. Hubbard, WR 5. Schmitt, FB 6. Hardie, DE/LB 7. Grice-Mullens, WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 You can't pass a talent like McFadden. PERIOD! I don't give a shit whose on your o line. You have FA and other picks to get needs but you don't get a shot at too many McFaddens so if it is feasible, you do it. A guy like McFadden will find running room. They always do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenom283 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I was thinking about trading up but keeping our 1st this year. Trade in the 22-28 range and we could have draft like: Trading maybe our 2nd, 3rd and next years 2nd or 3rd. 1a. Mendenhall 1b. Otah/Albert/Baker/Cherilus 2. traded 3a. traded 3b. Chilo Rachal/Tony Hills/Barry Richardson 4. Josh Johnson 5. Owen Schmitt 6. Adrian Arrington 7. BPA Quality over Quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connorbear Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Stay where we are or trade down. Top 10 picks are too expensive and risky. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dabears33 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Agreed, no way do we lose more draft picks. Especially with this quiet offseason, I think we are going to stockpile as many picks as possible. As much as it is worth getting a stud like McFadden, it's tough to pick in that top 10 and pay all that guaranteed money. Plus, we have a lot of needs in important positions. TRADE DOWN, not UP!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Stay where we are or trade down. Top 10 picks are too expensive and risky. Peace I agree. I like the trading down in the 1st while moving up in later rounds. It is possible to have 5-6 in the top 100 with a few trades. That would be nice to walk away from the draft with that type of quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I was thinking about trading up but keeping our 1st this year. Trade in the 22-28 range and we could have draft like: Trading maybe our 2nd, 3rd and next years 2nd or 3rd. 1a. Mendenhall 1b. Otah/Albert/Baker/Cherilus 2. traded 3a. traded 3b. Chilo Rachal/Tony Hills/Barry Richardson 4. Josh Johnson 5. Owen Schmitt 6. Adrian Arrington 7. BPA Quality over Quantity That'd be the best draft. Then start going after OL in FA. What'll be funny is when we dont take mendenhall we can face him and AP twice a year and they can tear us apart. But at least our guy doesnt feel he has anything to prove. But at least hell have a nice young OT to fall behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 That'd be the best draft. Then start going after OL in FA. What'll be funny is when we dont take mendenhall we can face him and AP twice a year and they can tear us apart. But at least our guy doesnt feel he has anything to prove. But at least hell have a nice young OT to fall behind Not to mention Ryan Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TerraTor Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Not to mention Ryan Grant. haha, ya we have a #4 overall and hes by far the worst RB in Division, wheres the puking icon????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luciano Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 screw stockpiling picks. if that jake long looked like a real OLT i'd trade up to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hochuli 3:16 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 haha, ya we have a #4 overall and hes by far the worst RB in Division, wheres the puking icon????? If you need it, type in puke and put a colon before it. screw stockpiling picks. if that jake long looked like a real OLT i'd trade up to get him. That's true. If we could trade our 1st and 2nd this year, and maybe a 4th next year, we could still do this: 1. Long/Clady 3. Henne, QB 3. Simpson, WR 4. Slaton, RB 5. Fleullen, DT 6. Wolfe, S 7. Lichtensteiger, OG/C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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