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I still think they're a good old boys network of owners that participate in the league but the new ones control it. This decision is very bad but it's more of the league having a power trip than being against the bears. The referee situation is bad and discriminates against bad teams and in favor good times. Bears are consistently bad so it takes hits. I love conspiracies but this isn't going on in the NFL.

I saw that post too. All of Poles first round picks have been 22 and younger except one at 23. Messidor is probably the best pure pass rusher that could be there late round but he will be 27 next Jan in his first year. I just don't see it. I just don't think he is drafting anyone that will be 25 or older his year. Parker, Young, Jacas and Lawrence fit most of the scheme traits but all seem more like 2 nd round picks to me. Although Parker and Young may go first round. The DT class doesn't really have any high prospects that have high pass rush ability. McDonald and Woods may be good players be to me not first round worthy with limited pass rush skills. Because we didn't get the comp pick, I definitely think we drop out of 25. The second round seems like the sweet spot to take an Edge rusher or run support DT. I think we end up getting 3 picks in the second round. I don't see us taking any older players or pass rush specialist there either. One prospect if drops to 25 I think we consider is Faulk. 20 years old, great size and speed but didn't have a good senior year. People say coaching changes affected that. Malachi Lawrence keeps dropping and could be first round. Great speed and got better every year. Note that Jacas workout he ran a 4.69.

I believe pass rusher, regardless of position.

I seen Greg Gabriel post that the Bears draft younger players round 1 and 2, so off that pattern, Messidor may not be an option. I like the Penn State Edge Dani Dennis-Sutton because he seems to have the size and athleticism that can be developed into the complete package, like Garrett. He scored the highest RAS score for DEs and top 15 for all DEs ever recorded. If he is still on the board round 2, I would be good seeing him selected. I should see how he compares to Zion Young who i can see the Bears taking round 1 because of the edge defender profile, like Dani.

We all agree we need an improved pass rush but we also need better DE depth. This draft poses the opportunity to draft one or the other. Guys like Myles Garrett or Maxx Crosby who can give you both are somewhat rare. My question is which do you prefer we draft because we have options in the first couple rounds of players that go one way or the other? The obvious answer is we need a DE but having one really good pass rusher on the roster would change things for us in games where we can get a big lead early. I could see someone like Mesidor not getting many snaps in the first half but that changing as we get into the 3rd and especially the 4th quarter. I'm leaving out the obvious top 15 players from the list because I don't think those are realistic options for us. Players I consider pass rushers: Mesidor, Cashius Howell, Romello Height, R. Mason Thomas Edge Defenders: Zion Young, Derrick Moore, Keldric Faulk, T.J. Parker, Dani Dennis-Sutton My preference is to get another good DE Edge Defender and we can do that in either the 1st or 2nd Rd. Every one of those players needs work on the pass rushing. I won't be upset at all if we draft Mesidor at 25 because he'd be a huge help in the 4th quarter closing out games.

right. with a pass rush ALL your defenders get "better" at coverage. Edge is a force multiplier for sure.

An all-pro shutdown CB could only take care of one WR, Myles Garrett can shut down the whole offense. 2 firsts and a 2026 second, my final offer.

Sometimes I feel the league is trying to pry the McCaskeys from ownership. They want another big boy at the table, maybe with ties to WEF...rabbit hole. Seems like the Bears have taken a beating on most instances over the last 40 years from draft coverage to timely questionable penalties, and now legislature putting them in a bind. It could be that they never do things proper too haha.

What's really crazy, is the dude has never trained until a few months ago. He's literally getting stronger and faster by the day. He has no experience, but definitely beats the guy jumping out of the pool.

And what makes it extra stupid is that every GM has a boss that will fire them if they dont like the choices the GM makes, so that gives every GM's boss the final word. So what are we even talking about here? If Poles picks poorly, and Warren fires him as a result does that mean Poles wasnt the GM? And Poles know this, so if Warren says something like "take Caleb Williams" then Poles kinda has to do it. Not saying Warren does that, but he COULD. And so thats all no different than the situation Ian Cunningham is in. Something in Ryans contract gives him an executive GM role I guess. But so what? Its still a promotion to a GM position. League blew it on this one. They're blowing it on the referees contract too. Just pay them.

Caleb was the only pick everyone actual knew we were going to pick. Otherwise Poles is full of surprises. For what I understand DA likes is versatile players he can move in an out. Ss that can play up and back. Speed at LB to cover side to side. He likes length, speed and aggressive play. I think Bryant and Bush are those types. Gallimore is that type. Turner fits his mold. I think he had input in bringing in Dayo, Tall DE with long arms that can play in or out. I think when looking at prospects, we find those traits first at those positions. At DE Faulk, Parker, Jacas just ran a 4 .69 40 in a workout. Zion Young? Dennis -Sutton is that type. At DT Woods fits but have heard he has put on 35 lbs since he finished playing games. Don't know if true or what that means. The NTs doesn't fit his type IMO. Gracen Halton, Zane Durant and Kaleb Proctor does. At S it's Theinaman, Bud Clark, VJ Payne and Robert Spears -Jennings. If a mixed review on whether McNeil - Warren is that type. He lacks the long speed but players can make up for that with awareness and short area quickness. A few pundits have compared him to Brisker and we didn't retain him. I'm not sure on McN- Warren. A prospect that interests me is Treydan Stukes can play CB or both S spots. He has moved up draft boards probably is the second round now.

League doesn’t want to admit that they messed up. Sucks but it is what it is.

The rule is ( to get promoted) and that happened. Now they add to the description ( top football guy). It hurts no other team, just extra picks for promoting a minority canadate. It insane they are taking this stance. The bears should sue them over this. It will force them to give us the picks or dump the policy. The NFL brass won't like that but it's not like they are doing us any favors now.

That is so passive aggressive. Throw your junk on the table big guy!

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Looked this guy up, a 10.00 on the RAS score. Run a 4.66 at 306 lbs. 39" vertical. 10'10" BJ . That's insane. AND 35.75 inch arms It sounds like a Poles third round pick.

Wow, I didn't know you were into draft porn. Obscure video of someone no one has ever heard of. I would like if more of these type prospects actually hit it big once. I know the Eagles drafted a huge rugby player several years ago as a late round pick that is starting at LT for them so it happens. Jordan Mailata

Preferably the Bears but if you want to join them as an aggrieved fan who was lied to by the NFL fire away. Maybe that's the ticket, we should all jump in on a class action lawsuit and demand reparations.

Good Lord, who is gonna reach for this mutant.

You talking about me or the Bears?

Sue the NFL

Goodell is a complete asshole. He's on NFL Network advocating for the Rooney rule, because Florida has ruled it discriminatory. But, he shows his true colors by shoving a true Rooney candidate up our ass. Ryan and Cunningham have both stated that the GM role is exactly the same as the previous GM (Fontenot), whom the saints received the comp picks for. Slurp the Saints, screw the Bears. All told, I bet Goodell is applying pressure to George to keep the Bears in Chicago, because it's better for the shield. He should have been fired after Bunnygate...

Its official, Bear will receive no compensation for Cunningham.

I think they plan to have Turner at 3T, but he did look decent at DE when they were thin and needed him there. I also seen McDonald post that he is the Bears top priority target...

I think they are just checking out options which says they are planning a DT somewhere in the early draft. I don't think we can read anything extra in it but is a maybe.