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Mainly speaking of the Bears record and offense enthusiasm. Wins feel good regardless who or how, but these last few should have not been so close. Cincy is the worst D in the nfl. Caleb is coming along better than we have seen before but has a ways to go too. He is conscious about hisbflaws like dancing in the pocket and racing to the sideline and wants to improve on that. He seems to get it. We see progress every week and that is what the Bears need the most. I think Poles gets it too, because the media/fans were calling for him to make a blockbuster trade and he held his top picks. Crosby/Hendrickson would be nice, but id rather draft our Hutchinson.
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I can’t fathom how many decades it’s been since anyone said the Bears Oline like dominant.
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When Tom Brady put up 50pts against our bottom 5 defense years ago he was heralded as: Summary of Key Games 2014 Game: Brady had an outstanding performance, throwing five touchdown passes and leading the Patriots to a dominant victory over the Bears. This game showcased his precision and ability to execute plays effectively.
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Week 9 Official Game Thread - CHI @ CIN, Nov 2nd, 12PM CST, CBS, CHI -1.5
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Fun watch on the OL. Looked dominate Sunday as it should with a bad DL. - Today
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Week 9 Official Game Thread - CHI @ CIN, Nov 2nd, 12PM CST, CBS, CHI -1.5
BearFan PHX replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
OMG I cant stand McCaskey - he's a huge part of the reason we've been so bad for the last 30 years. That's not aimed in any bad way at anyone posting that, I just can't stand McCaskey. -
Week 9 Official Game Thread - CHI @ CIN, Nov 2nd, 12PM CST, CBS, CHI -1.5
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
George got excited on Sunday. - Yesterday
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Bears trade for DE Joe Tryon-Shoyinka (CLE) and a 7th for a 6th
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Actually 5 tackles in 31 snaps is pretty good. After being signed late the Browns just havent given him any playing time. The Bears were never going to trade for a big contract edge. What they were looking for was added depth that will fill in as a rotational DE . Joe T-S best year was 40 pressures, 5 sacks, 7 TFL, & 7 QB hits and one forced fumble in 50% of the snaps. He is 26 and signed for two yrs at 4.6 mil that can be cut at any time for no dead money. As someone said, low risk, low cost. If we can get 4 or 5 sacks out of him in 9 games he will have been well worth it. -
If you want the best compensation (draft picks) for your top players, wait until the NFL trade deadline. Teams give up far too much for quality players, hoping it will give them a shot at the playoffs/Super Bowl. We have all agreed that the most successful teams build through the draft. Swapping a 6th for a 7th is just a handshake to make the deal official. We keep our top draft capital, which, with BJ's input, will hopefully result in a quality starter. Was a teammate of K Gordon—a cheap one-year rotational piece to help out our D and ST. Good Deal, IMHO.
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Edmunds has been a good player while here but this year playing on the outside he has pro bowl stats. The reason he has gotten so much flack was because of his contract. In a NFL of cap space contracts become to much of the narrative because of players getting big contracts. More power to them for getting paid but the high paychecks are the GMs fault when it comes down to value. Flus never took advantage of his athleticism and DA knows what to do.
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I think Edmunds is doing MUCH better at the WLB spot than he did as a MLB - and statistically, the WLB always gets a lot of tackles anyway. Looks like they figured out how to unlock him, because he is definitely a physical beast. It's easy to see him physically as a Brian Urlacher, but he does seem more comfortable on the weak side.
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Bears trade for DE Joe Tryon-Shoyinka (CLE) and a 7th for a 6th
BearFan PHX replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
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For Bears vs Giants. Just based off EPA/Play, the average number of plays for both teams, and their previous scoring (both OFF and DEF), the most likely outcome is 31-23 Bears. Bears OFF +0.04 vs Giants DEF +0.07 / +0.055 x 64.5 plays= (+3.55 DIFF) 26.88 Bears O vs 27.67 Giants D = 30.8 (31 pts) Giants OFF -0.06 vs Bears DEF -0.02 / -0.04 x 60.5 plays= (-2.42 DIFF) 21.89 Giants O vs 28.38 Bears D = 22.7 (23 pts) The Giants Offense was heavily dependent on Skattebo who accounted for over 500 yards in just over 7 games played. The Giants 2 wins came when they ran the ball over 150 yards.
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At his current pace, Williams would have 34 fewer total yards than Goff had in his first year with Johnson as his OC, but that is because I did not include any projected receiving stats. If Williams catches 2-3 more for the entire year, he would be really close to matching Goff's yardage. For TDs, he is already projected to exceed it with fewer turnovers: Goff 2022 - 4516 Total Yards, 29 TD, 12 TO (Made Pro Bowl) Williams 2025P - 4482 Total Yards, 32 TD, 11 TO (Does not include projected Receiving Stats)
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I’m glad you were right. I’ve always been a fan of his and wanted him to succeed in Chicago.
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What’s with these new guys and hyphenated names? Gardner-Johnson and now this guy? Gonnna run out of room on their jerseys at some point. Or make the font so small you won’t be able to see it.
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To be a top 5 offense wasn't even under consideration for me when I started contemplating what realistic expectations were for the offense this year. I thought they'd be marginally improved—somewhere in the 20's—but top 5 is remarkable. Obviously, as someone mentioned, the level of competition is going to ramp up the rest of the way. We'll see where the numbers stand at the end of the season, but Ben Johnson did say this team would be playing their best ball in December and January. If he's right about that, things could get exciting.
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I never thought I’d say this but I really hope Dom Rob gets well quickly.
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Bears trade for DE Joe Tryon-Shoyinka (CLE) and a 7th for a 6th
Bears4Ever_34 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
They only had 3 healthy DE's on the active roster coming into this week (Sweat, Booker, Hardy). They had to do something—I just wish it was for somebody who can actually help. This guy has 5 tackles and 0 sacks on the season. You can find somebody on the street for that kind of production. -
Details later a lot more in the red zone. I highly doubt it’s all on Caleb with everyone learning a new offense.
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COVID Year I believe, and it was just Joe Tryon back then to TB.
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That is fair, but that is why you wait until the sample size is large enough to be useful. In this case, we are basically through half of the season with a top 5 offense. Even with a tougher schedule, that will drop some, but I doubt they fall out of the top 10.
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Of the 22 attempts from the 11-20, 15 of them were 10 yards or more to go. 5 of those were over 10 yards to go. That is what is missing. In the other 7 plays with under 10 yards to go, he completed 5 passes (5-7), with 3 for 1st Downs and 1 TD. The one INT he had in this range was the crazy tip and catch by Crosby, which was kinda fluky. Of the 7 3rd Downs between the 11-20, Caleb completed 5-7 passes, one incomplete being the Crosby INT, and one to Rome against DAL. So it seems like negative plays or penalties have more to do with the RZ troubles than something specifically related to Williams.
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It is a weird situation because it's not the entire Red Zone. It looks like it is between the 10 and the 20. In that range, Williams is at his worst, 12-22, 54.5%, 1 TD, 1 INT. Inside the 10, he gets better, 7-11, 63.6%, 5 TD, 0 INT. So there are a lot of factors, that could impact that range, down and distance, play call, etc. I would have to map out all 22 attempts and see what the subset of plays looked like, because just on the surface they look the same, but 3rd and 15 at the 18 is much different than 3rd and 4 from the 8.
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all these stats say Williams is doing well - not that he doesnt need to grow, but doing well and growing each week. And yet there is so much hate from the internet and distrust even on this board. I think we are so snake-bit at the QB position that some of us are afraid to believe. But the numbers say it a million different ways, and the play on the field does too. Dont be afraid to love again!
