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No i dont think you or we were arguing. If you mean the phrase "argument of authority" that means like a logical argument, and its a classic logical mistake, but it doesnt mean like angry arguing or anything like that - we arent. You havent said anything like that in a while, alls well here with me. No fight here. Im just saying i think he's an idiot, so for me, his opinion isnt proof of anything. And I just offered that he said we would keep Fields and trade the Caleb pick. He said he had inside info about that, and clearly, he was lying or being lied to - either way, it it proof that you cant trust those reports from him. But this is just a discussion, Im not mad at you(or anyone).

I dont think he is that far off from 25-40 range. The Bears need a starter at S, so his name is going to associated. He could have transfered but chose to stay at Toledo and knows the NFL will find talent. He's top 10 RAS, impressed at senior bowl, and is similiar to Seahawk rookie Nick Emmanwari. McNeil-Warren would bring that big hit in the box S but can play FS or Nickle. Quinyon Mitchell came out of Toledo, he's pretty good . I dont see Theineman there as much as I want him, so we will be looking at a tier of players that will rank about the same. The Bears brought in FA DTs and DEs, so they might look at locking that open position (safety). I will have many more mocks from now until draft 😆 but I feel safety has strong odds for being the pick.

I'm sure he does, I just don't think the bears are giving up that much capital for Garrett. Not sure why the Browns would trade their best assert when Crosby cost 2 1sts and Parsons got 2 firsts and a quality player.

I'm not sure what will present itself but these were teams that had multiple picks in some rounds. Just looking at what Poles may have options to move back. It might be a team that doesn't have extra picks. Poles rarely does what's expected.

Show me where he said Caleb was terrible? I've been following him for 5 years and never saw that . . If anyone wants to watch some good bears content Gabriel Talks Football on Barroom Network. It has the best opening in Bears Nation. He has a lot of good football people on there.

How is it if I disagree with you that means I'm trying to argue? You responded to my post, It's okay if you don't like him but you are not the only person on here. Everything I talk about is not intentionally directed at you. I gave my reasons why I trust him and your argument is he never gets anything right. I follow him and you don't so your take what other people say as meaningful reasons to not like him. I don't care

LOL @ the Phil Emery video! I know what you mean, this time of year we are so hungry for information, and there just isnt any to be had, lying season and all that. That said, I still think Greg Gabriel has the worst takes around. I don't trust him as a source at all. He said Caleb would be terrible and we should keep Fields. He even said that he had inside info that we would trade that first pick and keep Fields. I mean that alone should make anything else he says highly suspect.

Of all the permutations in the first round nobody gets it right. Gabriel has not been in the best health the last few years and there are times you can see him physically struggling. I’m not sure he cares about clicks, likes, or followers. I think he’s just an old football guy like us who enjoys chatting about the draft prospects. He freely admits he doesn’t have all the info on these prospects but is willing to share his thoughts on what he sees and hears. I’m so far off the wall I watched a video with Phil Emery talking about Dline prospects.

well we are back to this. the argument of authority. Understand that Greg Gabriels job isnt to tell the truth, its to get clicks. Also these guys just repeat the same narratives. You can believe or "trust" whoever you want to, but its not any kind of proof at all. GG is an idiot. https://x.com/ggabefootball/status/1741190517847646295 Hilarious.

I agree - in the move to 43 - are we just giving up 25? If so I can kind of see it but would expect bears may want to move back closer to 30/35 which is okay.

Or does he want the sack record and a Super Bowl ring?

I feel like moving to 43 is a little too far but I would like something like that Jets deal.

I looked at the NFL draft trade chart and saw what teams had multiple picks in other rounds. For pick 25 MIA gets 25+89 and we get 30+75+130 MIA has pick 43+ 75+111 Jets has 33+103+140+179 Pitt has 53+76+85+135 Jax has 56+82+88+124 I think the best shot would be 43+75+111 for 25 with MIA

With the group of players they have shown interest in, I suspect they move back 5 to 10 spots and still get a good DE and S and then the rest is a BPA scenario. There big board isn't going to look like the consensus ranking because they are more system oriented for the defensive players. It would be nice to have an extra pick in the top 100.

He's going to be 31 this football year, I doubt if he sits out or forces a trade. He has no leverage. He literally talked to the organization to change some contract language. Doesn't seem to me to be a failsafe point yet. He wants the sack record meaning he has to play.

I'm not saying he a football God, but he knows agents and has friends still working in the NFL. I trust him more than most football pundits or random fans. None of them get everything right sometimes his sources give bad information. At least his time in the NFL gives him some creed over some of these pundits that never played football or stepped a foot in a locker room.

With all due respect, Greg Gabriel is wrong a LOT.

The reason is if Garrett is holding out, then they either get something for him, or nothing. That's why they'd take less. But they ONLY have to take as little a price as the second highest bidding team

He's aging and had a ton of snaps to break the sack record. I'm leary...

Not sure why they would settle for less than they want for the best defensive player in the league. Several think 3 firsts or 2 and a significant player. My guess is a young cheap option not high salary players.

It depends on the price. If they would take 2 firsts, we'd have a welcome parade.

Was listening to Greg Gabriel and he was saying that all our picks were brought in for visits. . That all visits aren't announced. I don't think there is a league rule that says you have to announce visits just stay under 30. It's usually agents that provide that information and some are asked not to say anything.

So are we all in agreement they won't be trading for Garrett? He's going to be 31 this season, he's not going to sit out a season no matter how much he dislikes the Browns off-season plans. Of course another team may give them what they want.

Like you guys said, we can't count on him for the season when making moves. Since this is lying season, doesn't anyone believe they want the rest of the league to think they may take a LT at 25? We very well could be but why would we broadcast that to the rest of the league? They have 3 options unless anyone thinks Kiran jumps back in the race. Poles always surprises us in drafts but I don't think they are taking a QB, WR, TE, IOL or RB. Everything else is on the table.

In general the back 7 were slow, having been built for a zone scheme. And zone schemes require a pass rush, but we didnt have that either because Eberflus sucks. We will continue to build on team speed, and that will help a lot. We also need a pass rush desperately. But yeah, our defense was much worse than the stats showed last year.