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I agree, Garrett is the better player, but either of them would make a huge difference.

I like this board. I prefer not to debate with you Stinger. Your tone is already aggressive, and I would prefer to just not deal with you. nothing good comes of it. I put those figures for everyone else, so we can all make our own guesses at what the team might do. Personally, I think if we can land Crosby or Garrett, we should do it. Then the team will be fully dimensional. With the offense we are building, we need to compliment it with a defense, and specifically a pass rush. Let's get em next year with Deyo isn't going to cut it. We need greatness on the D line to make us into a real killer. Johnson knows this, and so does Poles. How they will do that, i don't know. But that's where cap savings would have to come from if we were going to do something like that.

Raiders are taking care of their future draft picks by making sure Crosby avoid serious injury in the last two games. Cleveland is a wild card here because they have to decide if they want to go after one of the two top QBs. NY Giants at 1st overall do not need a DE in Myles Garrett so that trade and a swap of 1st likely won't work. Raiders will definitely not move off their spot. If they can't get a QB does Garrett want to play there? Do you let that play out after the draft? If I'm giving up two firsts I'd do it for Garrett over Crosby.

Please. Dont fight. I put BOTH numbers up there: before June 1st and post June 1st. The Bottom line is like I said https://overthecap.com/player/d-j-moore/6909

I did, you are using everything post June numbers. The difference between us is I think trades will happen around the draft, you are using everything Post June. You can not designate trades after June if you do earlier like cuts.

Unless Cincinnati puts a tag on Hendrickson, he's a free agent next year. Cleveland and Vegas are in rebuild mode which means they could trade them players but more likely for draft picks. Not sure why they would trade for high priced assets when it's at least 2 years before they will be good again.

Youre using it wrong. Im using the same resource. You have to set it to trade.

I am using OTC cap information . Do you have other sources to verify your stats? If there are any trades they will probably happen around draft time not post June.

That all sounds good. Find me 3 teams that will want to trade for JJ, DJ and Kmet. You can cut Edmunds and resign D Jackson that will have a probably 5 mil cost in 26. You have dead money of 34 mil you have to account for for 26 alone if all those transactions happen. From Poles outlook, do you think he thinks losing DJ, Kmet, JJ and Edmunds, and at least 2 first round draft picks is worth signing Crosby? I think he will try sign a Hendrickson as a better option than that complicated scenario. Crosby only has a 1/2 sack more than Sweat does right now this year. Booker is a potential young Maxx Crosby being the same size with a no stop motor. I do think they try to add a pass rusher but not sure it's with the cost of 6 assets.

Just for everyone reading, those numbers arent true. If we Trade DJ, we open up $16.5M, and if the trade is a post June 1st trade, then it opens up $24.5M in space.

Crosby has 10 sacks this year. Sweat has 9.5. Crosby only had 7.5 sacks last year. He's a damn good player, but he seems to get injured a lot. I don't think I would feel as good about investing in him as you guys do. If I'm going to trade players to open cap space and give up draft picks, it would be for Trey Hendrickson or Garret, not Crosby.

I don't disagree with anything you said but I don't think the bears will do that. DJ will have a 12 million Dead Cap hit next year and 8 mil in 27 if traded. So the Cap relief isn't as great as it looks on paper. I would love to get one of those guys but the cost will be to great. Poles will figure something out but doubt if it's Crosby or Garrett.

If Las Vegas wants to clear their future cap, they might want to move Crosby. They pay a price but not that much, a lot of his cap is salary, and would come to us and off their books. He would cost us about $30.8M, $29.8M, $27.3M and $28.2M over the next four years. If we traded Jaylon Johnson after June 1st, we would open up $16M If we traded or cut Tremaine Edmunds, that would open up $15M If we trade DJ Moore before June 1st, it opens up $16.5M, after June 1st it opens $24.5M If we trade Cole Kmet before June 1st, it opens up $8.4M, after June 1st it opens $10M The Raiders might trade for a player or players and at least a first round pick, or they might want picks only. The players above dont need to be traded to the Raiders, we could trade them to someone else for picks, and then use some of those picks or our own to make the deal too. This is a good year to wheel and deal. If the Raiders took out first round pick this year, and some combination of players above (or draft picks we traded them to someone else for) for Crosby, that would really make us a scary team for the next 3 or 4 years.

Willis is one hit away from being out of the game. He has limited practices all week. It could get ugly fast. Plus Wilson is the only healthy RB.

All fans are like that. I realize the Packers are a good team but badmouth them every chance I get. I've been watching a lot of NFC North podcasts and they all say how lucky we are to win 6 last minute games but it no longer becomes luck when you do it that much. Good teams find ways to win.

Crosby has a very tradeable contract, however, I don't see a way the Bears could free enough space to bring someone like him on, especially with the Dayo boat anchor contract.

yes, out here in the real world. thats exactly whats happening.

Crosby not happy in Vegas, team sucks, organization sucks, now they are trying to mess with his playing time:

What is funny is, can't a team just be good? Can't highly drafted players perform how they were projected, because in a lot of ways, that is all that is happening. The Bears have 19 players that were drafted in the 1st or 2nd rounds on the 53-man, and of the 22 off/def starters, the only ones not drafted in the top 100 are Edwards (UDFA), Dalman and Jarrett.

Love out against BAL, Willis in. Willis vs Huntley. A GB loss guarantees the Division for the Bears. It would be all seeding for the final two weeks.

And soon they will be saying we are AMAZING and Caleb is GENERATIONAL and all that crap. They just need to sell papers, get eyeballs and clicks. They really dont know anything, and they dont do any actual predicting. All they can tell you is whether your team is winning right now. That's not analysis. That's why all the narrative pieces are worthless. They just tell you what's happening at the current moment, and make it SOUND like a universal truth. But they never see change coming. They dont predict development. Remember when Jaden Daniels was on his way to the Hall of Fame? Remember when Darnell Wright was a bust? Remember when Justin Fields just needed a little more help? It's all trash. And I'm just saying this because it's about to be all over the top good trash for our Bears, and it won't be true either. I mean, yeah if Caleb keeps going and ends up elite, the stories will still be all or nothing because thats what the media does, not because we deserve it. Even if we do.

I think the evolution of it was the most entertaining. First it was you suck, then it was you got lucky, then who have you beat. Yet here we are with a 1.5 Game lead in the division, and currently the only team with double-digit wins when the Bears were the only team who had fewer than 11 wins last year.

SEA plays in CAR this week, then in SF next week. Two tough games with coast-to-coast travel. SEA is favored by 7 over CAR, but are currently 4.5 underdogs against SF in Week 18. The Bears are only 3 pt underdogs.

Right. Some ask why we would ever trade away good players, and of course the reason is to get other good players at positions of need.