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PFF is random. People love it because they do a lot of clear rankings and ratings, and they use numbers, so they are fun and easy to understand an compare. But PFF is nonsense. Now, despite my feelings about what I think Cole Kmet really is, *IF* he was to break out and be a great player, then we might be looking at film of the Patriots when they had Gronkowski and Hernandez for ideas. I'm sure there are a lot of ways to use two great TEs, especially with Moore and Odunze on the outside. So I understand the excitement from those that think Kmet has that kind of skill set. Of course, neither one is Gronkowski, especially Loveland being more of a tall and nifty slot receiver, so the same concepts wouldn't map over 1 to 1, but the matchup problems are obvious, and a true dual TE threat is a real problem for defenses. If Loveland could be a Tony Gonzalez type for us, that alone is gonna be great for Caleb and our offense.

Likely at 9, this is clearly a receiving biased ranking.

One thing I think I see from the limited highlights is that early on in the offseason Caleb was always patting the ball and then throwing. As a DB or DT you love to see that. In recent clips I don't see him doing that. It's not entirely clear yet because a lot of sources mix in highlights from different practices. Are the coaches forcing him to break a bad old habit? I hope so and it's something I'll be looking for as the team begins training camp. With some of these reports about inaccuracy I would say if he's in the early stages of breaking a bad habit it will affect some of his touch, timing, and accuracy because he's got to be deliberate to skip the "pat" and just throw as soon as he sees it.

I think we all saw enough to know Caleb has a lot to work on. He also has a lot of talent. Facts are he has a totally new standard being set from the top on down. Ben Johnson is a proven play caller who knows offense and is a stickler for the little things - from how to get in and out of the huddle, to how to line up, where the ball goes, and even how you handle your emotions on sidelines. He knows all those little things add up and create a material difference. Caleb has never been coached like this. Caleb has talent - that is clear - but now that he has an elite offensive mind to work with him - he also is going to see how hellacious the work effort is and what it takes to be elite at the NFL level. Let’s hope Caleb has it in him cause I think there is probably a bit of an eye opening experience going on right now with a number of players who were used to the cupcake nature of Eberflus. And I for one say it is about ducking time! And Caleb seeing Keenan who is a good back up leverage his smarts to look better than him just puts more pressure on Caleb to elevate all aspects of his game.

PFF has Andrews at #4 AND Likely at #9. That is crazy talk.

If Caleb is humming both TEs should be 10 to 15 as far as stats. With DJ and Rome running down field, one of the TEs should be open every play.

The media in general hates Kmet. Even with Loveland, Kmet is still a top 20 TE.

He was ranked 23 . If you look at BJ run offenses, TE is an important position and if we're projecting, wouldnt you have Colston ranked higher than 23 ? Last year LaPorta was ranked 6th. Cole Kmet was ranked 18th, Kincaid was 28th. Last year was a bad year for Kmet due to a dysfuntional offense and rookie QB. Taysom Hill was ranked 15th with 23 reception/ 187 yards/ 6 TDs PFF just puts content out there that is hard to wrap your head around. If you projected a split in the total TE reps, I would say both would land in the midteens.

well Bagent was always bad with the long ball, and im not shocked that Keenum is putting touch and leading swing routes like a vet while Caleb is still learning the finer points of touch. That doesnt really concern me too much at this point. I am eager to see this on the field and then start picking it apart, or praising it, or both.

Its just a few observations one day at OTAs. The only opinion I care about is Ben Johnsons.

What's this? https://www.chicitysports.com/case-keenum-arm-better-chicago-bears-nfl-news

Yeah and I didn't dig - I mean if I'd have even read the amount ($37.5M!) I'd have choked right there and known something was wrong.

The addition of Coleston Loveland...

I have seen some things reported and jumped on it and then later found out it was wrong. Everyone has done that at some point in time.

PFF came out with their TEs ranking for 2025. Kmet is ranked 29th. Kincaid 10th Dalton Kincaid 2024 stats: 44 catches of 71 targets./448 yards- 2 TDs/ 2 drops/ 10.2 yards per reception Cole Kmet 2024 stats: 47 of 55 targets/474 yards- 4 TDs / 1 drop/ 10.1 yards per reception Dalton Kincaid 2023 stats: 71 of 93/ 673 yards- 2 TDs / 9.2 yards per reception Cole Kmet 2023 stats: 73 of 90/ 719/ 6 TDs / 9.8 per reception Kincaid had Josh Allen throwing to him. Kmet had Fields and Williams throwing to him. Can someone explain had they graded this with Kmet clearly the better TE? 2 year totals Kincaid 116 of 164 / 1021 yards/ 4 TDs Kmet 120 of 145 / 1193 yards and 10 TDs

You know what Stinger? I think you're right. I saw the story a few weeks ago, from several sources, but not any sources i really knew. And today i just googled it and pasted it without really reading it. I re-reading, there is NO WAY we signed Bagent for $18M a year for 2 years! And as I looked futher, no reputable sources had it. So I guess it's internet bullshit, and I have no problem saying you were right and I was wrong about this. I had seen some opinion pieces in reputable places that said he would be in line for an extension, so when I saw the fake story, I just thought it was true - it wasnt particularly interesting, so i didnt dig into to it - but I should have. But 2 years $37.5M?? LOL no way. So, I full admit you were right and I was wrong about this one.

ISPORT and SPORT FIGUR are the only two sources that announced it. Tribune and Suntimes doesnt have stories about this. No Bear beatwriter reported it. No mention on the Bears team website. They have stories of Thuney, Gordon, and Jackson extensions, why wouldnt they report 2/ 37.5 mil salary that is one of the highest per yr contract on the team? In 2026 the year extenstions start, he would be the 4th hightest paid player on the team. Im on Courtney Cronin X account and if you look at the first week of May, nothing mentioned. this is the transactions reports on the Bears website for May . The stories are reported on May 8th. Transactions 2025 2024 2023 2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 May 05/21 Signed OL Joe Thuney to two-year contract extension through 2027. 05/08 Signed DB Major Burns, DL Xavier Carlton, LB Power Echols, LS Luke Elkin, RB Deion Hankins, DB Tysheem Johnson, K Jonathan Kim, WR JP Richardson, DL Jereme Robinson and WR Jahdae Walker. 05/08 Signed DB Jeremiah Walker. I think these reporters ( I have never heard of) may have mistaken Jeremiah Walker signing as a Tyson Bagent signing. He got 1 yr/ 840 thousand.

https://sportfigur.com/2025/05/09/tyson-bagent-signs-two-year-37-5-million-contract-extension-with-chicago-bears/

And the NFL is reworking some of the race based policies too i think, so I hope we will still get those picks when Cunningham gets a GM job.

They have to be a minority to be awarded compensation.

I also seen where Jeff King was interviewed for a GM job but dont remember the team. If they have success this year and King leaves (Adam) would we get a pick or do you have to be black to get the comp pick?

cool

You may be right but both OTC and SpoTrac show him on a 3 year deal from 2023. Tyson Bagent signed a 3 year, $2,720,000 contract with the Chicago Bears, including $25,000 signing bonus, $25,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $906,667. In 2025, Bagent will earn a base salary of $1,030,000, while carrying a cap hit of $1,038,334 and a dead cap value of $8,334. the Bears website under team shows a heading (transactions) that list every transction done since the begining of the year and I cant find that extension.

something is up - I dunno what it is, but yes something...