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Week 7 Official Game Thread - NOR @ CHI, Oct 19, 12PM CDT, FOX, CHI -5.5
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
I would say also he knows the team very well having been in NO for several years. -
I agree, other than one bad game, he just isnt getting the targets. Caleb seems to favor Odunze when under pressure where many times either TE is open. Like you said they are still growing the offense. Before LaPorta got there, because of injuries the TE position wasnt effected, hence they traded Hockenson. Hockenson missed 15 games due to injuries' his last two years in Detroit. He had two yrs left on his contract of which probably would have been given in his 4th year. They choose to draft a new TE than resign Hock so they traded him. If they are not going to incorporate the TE more into the offense then I think we could see Kmet being traded next year or redoing his contract. He is a team captain so the team values him. Because they are still inventing the offense, I dont see them making that decision this year.
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But Ben Johnson wanted his LaPorta and made the personnel decision, right? I think you have to give this offense time to develop. They finally showed a running game which who knows if it was a fluke. As for Poles and the Bears draft picks, lets see how this team starts looking once functioning. They are barely winning games and still making foolish mistakes.
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Week 7 Official Game Thread - NOR @ CHI, Oct 19, 12PM CDT, FOX, CHI -5.5
Bears4Ever_34 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
I would be very curious to know what percentage of teams that have won 4 games in a row at some point during their season go on to make the playoffs? We know starting 4-0 correlates to about an 83% chance. My guess is that it's maybe slightly lower than that, but probably not by much. Bears really need to stretch this thing to 4 with a win against the Saints this week. I have pretty good feelings about the this matchup. I know the Saints have looked better than their record so far, but you have to figure Dennis Allen wants to get his revenge, and you know Caleb will be fired up to go against Rattler. This could be their best game of the season. If there were ever a time to pad those offensive stats, it would be now. -
of course I agree. He needs to work on some footwork issues, and that is a big part of the accuracy issues too. There are other parts to it too, but yeah youre right he needs to be more accurate, and more consistent in general. And youre also right that it's all about his potential - we can all see it now clearly. Will he reach it? Obviously it has to be proven ont he field before we can say yes, but I think he couldn't have a better situation now, and I see growth every week too, so it's a pretty safe bet he will get a lot better. But, he still has to walk that path before it's real. This is the year to gain consistency. That's probably the biggest goal overall for this season for the team - for Caleb to grow into a consistent and really good pocket QB.
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He's got to improve his accuracy. He is lucky to have so few interceptions. If he improves his accuracy, I see a brilliant future for him. If not, he'll never reach his full potential.
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Not sure if this was noted, but DJ Moore did not travel home with the team. He spent the night in DC at the hospital. He was injured in the 1st half, played the rest of the game, and decided to get medical attention. That makes sense why he looked out of it on the sideline. Looks like it was a groin injury or testicular torsion. Hopefully a quick recovery or something that he can play through.
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Yeah, it was called in another game, I am looking for the game. Literally the same exact situation, yet the defense was called with a penalty just by touching the LS before his head came up. Found it: Penalty on Miami, DL went in the gap between the LS and OG, but because his head was still down, it was a penalty. (9:30) C.Dicker 58 yard field goal is GOOD, NULLIFIED by Penalty, Center-R.Lovato, Holder-J.Scott. PENALTY on MIA-M.Butler, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at MIA 40 - No Play.
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I watched the replay several times and it looked like he shot the gap, which is legal. It's pretty gray area that I don't fully understand. I'm gonna dig into it. Here it is. In the NFL, a long snapper is considered a "defenseless player" during field goals and extra points and cannot be contacted in the head or neck area while his head is down. The defensive team also has specific formation restrictions to protect the snapper. However, unlike college football, the NFL does not provide a mandatory time delay before the long snapper can be engaged.
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At 3-2, here is where they stand on offense and defense, it looks like without the turnovers, this team is probably 1-4. The defense needs to improve quickly: Offense - 10th PPG, 14th YPG, 15th YPP, 7th 3D%, 9th Sacks Defense - 27th PPG, 27th YPG, 32nd YPP, 2nd INT, 27th Sacks
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The rule states: "It is illegal to make contact with the long snapper while their head is down immediately following the snap. Contact can occur after the snap is complete and the snapper has lifted their head." If you see the screengrab, he just released the ball and hasn't had a chance to even move his helmet and Payne is already on his back. It actually happened on the GW Kick too.
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and it is kinda crazy that his 2 INTs this year are the Maxx Crosby tip and INT, and the deep throw away that was intercepted against DET. Neither of those were typical INTs.
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Last night wasn't a perfect game, but it has me feeling it was the perfect win for the moment. A prime time victory on the road, Williams over Daniels, our D stopped their #1 ranked rushing attack, we ran the ball, came from behind, have the tie breaker and exercised the demons of the fail Mary. Great win!
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Week 7 Official Game Thread - NOR @ CHI, Oct 19, 12PM CDT, FOX, CHI -5.5
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
There are no easy wins in the NFL, anyone can beat anyone. As long as this team stays focused we should have a good run the next 5 games. Should not lose at home. period -
2nd Year QBs - Career Totals Passing Rk Player GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int TD% Int% Rate Sk Yds Sk% Y/A AY/A ANY/A Y/C Y/G Succ% W L T 4QC GWD Team 1 Bo Nix 23 509 773 65.8 5052 38 16 4.9 2.1 91.9 30 234 3.74 6.5 6.59 6.05 9.9 219.7 43.6 14 9 0 5 5 DEN 2 Caleb Williams 22 449 721 62.3 4720 29 8 4 1.1 90 78 533 9.76 6.5 6.85 5.52 10.5 214.5 40.4 8 14 0 4 3 CHI 3 Jayden Daniels 21 408 604 67.5 4443 32 10 5.3 1.7 99.8 58 291 8.76 7.4 7.67 6.56 10.9 211.6 47.4 14 7 0 4 4 WAS 4 Drake Maye 18 356 517 68.9 3798 25 12 4.8 2.3 96.5 52 284 9.14 7.3 7.27 6.11 10.7 199.9 48.5 7 11 0 0 1 NWE 5 Spencer Rattler 12 269 431 62.4 2534 10 6 2.3 1.4 80.5 33 197 7.11 5.9 5.72 4.89 9.4 194.9 39.4 1 11 0 0 0 NOR 6 Michael Penix 8 159 262 60.7 1943 7 6 2.7 2.3 82.9 11 73 4.03 7.4 6.92 6.37 12.2 194.3 45.8 4 4 0 0 0 ATL
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That’s where I’m at. Not a great game for either QB. I still like Caleb’s higher potential. Last year the pressure of playing back home affected Caleb. He rallied at the end. I was curious how he would handle returning to the scene of the crime. He was much better but still left a lot of plays on the field. Only five games into the Ben Johnson era and I like the direction Caleb is headed. I’m waiting for that game where he puts it all together. Who had the Bears winning three in a row after the loss to Detroit? Not mentioned anywhere is how satisfying this win had to be for our HC who lost to Wash in the playoffs 45 to 31. Not only that Wash is again expected to contend for the NFC championship.
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It really starts to put into perspective what an amazing job Caleb did last year in all that chaos. Of course he got sacked way too much, and the team overall was a mess, but to put up the stats he did last year in all of that is incredible, and speaks to his innate talent alone, because the scheme and OL sure didnt help any. But what's even better news is how much Caleb is growing each week as a pocket passer under Johnson. Last night, even with the drops and missed balls, you could SEE where this is going. You could see what we are trying to do, and even as we fell short a bunch of times, it was right there - we are close to becoming something special. We just need to be more consistent. And that's the whole thing for this year - becoming consistent, moving the chains, learning to eliminate penalties, finding out what our identity is, especially in the running game. And all those things are getting better each week. It should also be said that the defnese was flying around yesterday, playing with a lot of heart. These are all good signs that we have the right coaches and QB.
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Didn't even pay attention to this, but the blocked FG should've been a WAS penalty. One-second rule: This protection lasts for the first one second after the ball is snapped. Payne immediately uses Daly's back for leverage. He was not protected for one second.